I didn't bring it up, the guy I quoted did. I don't wanna compare to one of the best players of all time, as that's not fair to him.
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I didn't bring it up, the guy I quoted did. I don't wanna compare to one of the best players of all time, as that's not fair to him.
You did bring up the age comparison though, which isn't fair not just because it's Ronaldo but because it also wasn't his first season.
Best to leave Ronaldo out of this thread. Anyone who gets compared to him or Messi are usually destined to disappoint, obviously.
Its also bizarre that some are already writing him off - just highlights the disgusting, instant gratification culture of fans these days.
Its also bizarre that some are already writing him off - just highlights the disgusting, instant gratification culture of fans these days.
He needs time. He's always needed time. The expectation that he'd be at the level we need - and, going on our transfer business, were expecting - was always really optimistic. There's loads of talent there. In a more cohesive attacking side he might have shown more by now. I think by this time next season we'll be seeing a better player who will have nailed down his spot in the side.
It would be just great if we could not throw our young player under a bus just because the team played well without him.
It's a long season, with four competitions, each of which we'll be trying to win, so he's going to have a huge part to play.
It's a long season, with four competitions, each of which we'll be trying to win, so he's going to have a huge part to play.
People writing him off are clueless. He's played like what, 10 games.
He's a similar age to De Gea when he first came, and Memphis first ten games weren't as bad as Daves and look how he turned out.
He's 21 ffs.
He's a similar age to De Gea when he first came, and Memphis first ten games weren't as bad as Daves and look how he turned out.
He's 21 ffs.
De Gea is a GK, so this is not really a good comparison. Him having good games early on was completely forgotten because of his mistakes on the other games.
Memphis hasn't really shown anything to suggest that he's even nearly as talented as people say. He was Eredivisie topscorer at 21, but still the price tag and the expectations (#7) went really overboard. I'm quite concerned by his lack of footballing intelligence but to overcome that he could of course become that "goal-scoring winger" everyone was raving about. I just don't see the ability.
I would put him on the right wing for a change, since Martial showed yesterday he can easily play off the left.
Playing on the left is his comfort zone, playing on the right could give him new perspective of which LVG asks from him since he couldn't cut in on the right foot as an easy option like he can while playing left.
He's young and learning, talent is there, it's just matter of how LVG and staff handles him and his reaction to it.
Playing on the left is his comfort zone, playing on the right could give him new perspective of which LVG asks from him since he couldn't cut in on the right foot as an easy option like he can while playing left.
He's young and learning, talent is there, it's just matter of how LVG and staff handles him and his reaction to it.
From LVG's comments, sounds like he has lost his place for now.
Quality young player. Martial has done him no favours though cause he's everything he's not in the right way on and off the pitch. Maybe that number 7 shirt was a little premature and should have earned the right to wear it......
Probably the right decision resting him this weekend, he's only young and we should give him time off where we can. Also he's played far better in the CL for us up to now so he should be fresh for the CSKA match.
We don' have to go back as far as the Daves and the Ronaldos.. Shaw was getting the same treatment just last year when he was "fat" "ovetpriced" "overrated" etc.
Yeah, I'd like to see him on the right. Just tell him to beat his man and get a decent ball in. I know it's basic but I think it would benefit him to try something other than cutting inside and looking to shoot.
I don't think anybody's surprised he's dropped. His performances were not good enough even for the bench of a club like ours. He was given enough chances but simply couldn't get on. Right now it's time to give chance to Lingard/Pereira/Young. SUb appearance for Memphis here and there. You'll see he will try harder..
Anyway I told you since the day one, he's far from complete player and shouldn't be automatic no1 choice. Right now it's our weekest point in the squad. If we want to win anything this year we need world class winger in January..
Anyway I told you since the day one, he's far from complete player and shouldn't be automatic no1 choice. Right now it's our weekest point in the squad. If we want to win anything this year we need world class winger in January..
You don't see the ability? His goals against Brugge were amazing. He dictated both our Play off games, arguably our most important games. He had bad games of course but ability and talent is clear. Once he gets experience, he will be good.
It's good that he gets a rest. Hopefully, it also gives him a push to work harder and get back into form
Have I really just read someone say this could be the beginning of the end for him here 
Great to have a player of his quality fighting for his place. Will be a great option from the bench when he isn't starting.
We looked infinitely better with Herrera in the side so Memphis needs to either force his way past Rooney/Martial or learn to play on the right.
We looked infinitely better with Herrera in the side so Memphis needs to either force his way past Rooney/Martial or learn to play on the right.
Getting rested for a match means he is done now? Whatever the outcome, making such a statement at this point in time is at least an overreaction.
Some people saying he should be taken out of the firing line, others think he is finished?
LVG has given Memphis a little reminder that he hasn't made it just yet, especially by bringing lingard on instead.
He is still class though, he just needs to up his game and work that little bit harder.
LVG has given Memphis a little reminder that he hasn't made it just yet, especially by bringing lingard on instead.
He is still class though, he just needs to up his game and work that little bit harder.
Reckon he'l start vs CSKA. He's done alright in the CL/qualifiers.
What an amazing thread. I am laughing and getting dissapointed at some of our fans at the same time..
@iammemphis your username is a curse. Change it to something normal FFS!
Some people saying he should be taken out of the firing line, others think he is finished?
LVG has given Memphis a little reminder that he hasn't made it just yet, especially by bringing lingard on instead.
He is still class though, he just needs to up his game and work that little bit harder.
This.
God, i know. Maybe someone shit already like iamrooney or iamrojo haha.@iammemphis your username is a curse. Change it to something normal FFS!
I don't like how he keeps getting criticized publicly like that. Maybe it's because they all see his enormous talent and want him to really "wake up".
Sorry for the rudeness but what are people smoking here saying he should play on the right?His strength has always been cutting inside and shoot and he hasn't done anything much in the league playing by his strength now you want him to play in a way that wasn't his game?Mata,Young and Lingard are all more viable options there.Even him as a number 10 would be a better suggestion.
Let's not be too hard on Memphis. Inconsistency in form is the norm for young players. We've seen enough in him to know he can make a fantastic contribution to United. I can't comment on his personal life but what I'd like to see in his game is more variation in his 1v1 moves on defenders and greater reliance on his left foot.
How about something like mufc99. Don't curse any of our players lol.
Then again, iamrooney may have the opposite effect and he might turn good.
Surely you don't want me to curse to the whole United team
I think it's good that he sits out a fair bit because he has frankly not been good enough thus far. Maybe this time out will give him a bit of perspective and force him to knuckle down and offer the team more.
He's alright. He just need to accept that he's not messi and stop trying to be one (yet)
Keep it simple and when the times comes do the unexpected. He's very predictable he made it easy to anticipate
Keep it simple and when the times comes do the unexpected. He's very predictable he made it easy to anticipate
You are stretching it a bit are you not? Brugge are amongst the weakest opposition we have faced this season. He played well in one of the games although his overall showing this season have been very underwhelming. This doesn't mean anybody is writing him off just factual that he's been mediocre at best in the premier league games since joining.
The finishes were brilliant even against such opposition. He has ability just not experienced enough at the big stage. The post I replied to said they didn't see his ability
He is getting the Ashley Young treatment from his full backs who know he will go on the inside regardless of them guiding him there. Unlike Ashley he has the pace to be able to keep it simple and beat them on the outside and provide a pass/cross in or to turn again. Maybe playing off the right would be easier for him as beating someone on the outside is way more difficult than cutting inside and having his stronger foot to do it doesn't seem like a bad idea.
All that pace he has goes pretty unnoticed the way he is playing now, so he's far from using his abilities the best way he can.
All that pace he has goes pretty unnoticed the way he is playing now, so he's far from using his abilities the best way he can.
He's getting the same shit almost every signing we make gets and it's getting ridiculous. Darmian had 1 bad game against Sanchez which I believe no fullback is able to contain 1 vs 1 and suddenly quite a few were suggesting he's average, doesn't bring anything to the team and the rest of it.
Think people seen to forget that he's a 21 year old straight from Holland. He's not been electric every game but he has managed to bang in 4 goals so far which is brilliant. Give him time and he will flourish.
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