Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56

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Sassy Colin said:
I not saying he's crazy, I'm saying he's a bit of tit.
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Mino is the tit. De Ligt is just a fool for trusting him to get the best deal. Mino is just in the game to get the biggest paycheck for Mini; not for his players

The world would be a lot better if all big teams just flat out denied doing business with that greedy pig.
 
Sandikan said:
You really think fees will move up that much? There's still only about 4 or 5 players ever to go for more than 100m.

I'd say a massive burst of the bubble is way more likely, players signing shorter contracts, teams looking more to youth teamers etc. Even clubs like United can't pay 300m in one summer, so it's surely coming to a big crossroads.
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I think so, yes. I mean if Maguire is valued at 80m, and someone like Koulibaly is valued closer to 100m, don't you think one of the highest rated defenders would command even more in his prime (assuming he plays to his potential)?

Atletico just signed a young player who hasn't even played a full season for a reported 120m euros. The fees are getting absolutely mental at this point.

The bubble will most likely burst at some point, but I reckon it will continue this way for a couple more years at the very least, with more and more of the world starting to follow football (especially in the emerging markets with huge younger populations).

In the short term, I think players would sign for shorter contracts, and release clauses would probably be even more common.
 
George The Best said:
€12m a year nett of tax, plus bonuses, is the figure doing the rounds.
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Ah ok I see, thanks! I suppose it’s on the high end, but not not affordable for us or city...

Andersons Dietician said:
I think it’s more the reported release clause rumoured they want in the contract which is putting other teams off of the bidding.
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Probably the high wages coupled with the release clause as you say makes it less interesting, as there is a capped RoI even if he improves at the rate expected (or higher).
 
Gfooty said:
Mino is the tit. De Ligt is just a fool for trusting him to get the best deal. Mino is just in the game to get the biggest paycheck for Mini; not for his players
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Not really. He wants to have a chance to go to Barca and be the main player in 2-3 years. Going to a selling club like Juve makes sense for him. As opposed to going to something like PSG.
And it is an opportunity for his agent to make some money again in 3 years.
Win-win for both.
 
Gfooty said:
Mino is the tit. De Ligt is just a fool for trusting him to get the best deal. Mino is just in the game to get the biggest paycheck for Mini; not for his players

The world would be a lot better if all big teams just flat out denied doing business with that greedy pig.
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I heard Bayern Munich didn't do any business with him. Tbf, United didn't either until the toxic one came.
 
Gfooty said:
Mino is the tit. De Ligt is just a fool for trusting him to get the best deal. Mino is just in the game to get the biggest paycheck for Mini; not for his players

The world would be a lot better if all big teams just flat out denied doing business with that greedy pig.
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Oh yeah, what a fool he is for trusting a guy who just got him a deal to make him the joint highest earner in the world at his position, at 19, in one of the biggest clubs in the world, with realistic ambitions of winning the CL
 
Infordin said:
By selling FIATs. Lots and lots of FIATs.
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That's still not complying to FFP rules technically though. It's not revenue generated by the club. Even the oil clubs have limits in spending and wages.

Something is just amiss somewhere - juve have never been such big spenders, and now they are going to add a million dollars per week more of wages with Ramsey, Rabiot and De Ligt, on top of Ronaldo and their other players? De Ligt is also back in Europe, and if the deal is 95% done, why has there been no progress over the past 2 days?
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Not really. He wants to have a chance to go to Barca and be the main player in 2-3 years. Going to a selling club like Juve makes sense for him. As opposed to going to something like PSG.
And it is an opportunity for his agent to make some money again in 3 years.
Win-win for both.
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I wonder if there is actually any Raiola client who was decently good and didn’t jump around? All his players seem to find ways to make him money every couple of years.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Not really. He wants to have a chance to go to Barca and be the main player in 2-3 years. Going to a selling club like Juve makes sense for him. As opposed to going to something like PSG.
And it is an opportunity for his agent to make some money again in 3 years.
Win-win for both.
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It makes no sense. Barca will not come back in 2-3 years and pay him EVEN MORE salary than he'll get now from whichever club he's going to. Not to mention the release clause will be double the transfer fee he's rated on now. If he wants to go to Barca, he should go there now.

giorno said:
Oh yeah, what a fool he is for trusting a guy who just got him a deal to make him the joint highest earner in the world at his position, at 19, in one of the biggest clubs in the world, with realistic ambitions of winning the CL
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I have no doubts Mino will get you the best contract but he will sweet talk you into clubs which have money but obviously not the wisest choice for the player (I mean, PSG come on..)
 
Le Red said:
Look at it the other way.
The upside of signing him now is that the contractor will likely have a very good defender for a handful of years and then will sell him for a profit. The downside is the the club that signs him now won't have him at his prime, since he seems the kind of guy who'll want a challenge in more than one major league.
Still, both clubs in this hypothetical scenario are going to get something from him. There's even space for a third club to have him at some point. The only clubs that won't benefit are the ones that never sign him in any period.
So, if we could sign him now, I say go for it. Even if he leaves later on, we would benefit greatly from this transfer.
Still, if we don't sign him now, a bridge should be built to try and snatch him later. Hopefully we'll reestablish ourselves as a powerhouse and can be an attractive proposition for a peak de Ligt. I'm not sold on this "everyone dreams of Spain" circle jerk.
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Sort of like cr7 even though he didn't have a buyout clause. We got him, helped him iron out his flaws, won 3 titles and a cl. Then when he wanted to leave we sold him for a record fee.
 
Unless he is someone who will win you 10+ points single-handedly, there is no point to spend so much on a teenager.
 
anant said:
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This is from June 11. It's probably him wanting the signing to happen.

Given his other recent posts of "feck Ed Woodward" from a few days ago and "we need Sancho 2020" and "deligt-ful evening" it's just a fan responding and upset over the Juve news, him wanting Sancho next year and upset Ed not getting the players in. I can't read from that he knows de Ligt is coming here.
 
kps88 said:
I still don't understand.
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Dave is a UK Grime artist from south London. He may have connections to some of the Palace players e.g Zaha, AWB who are fans of his music. More likely he is just having a bit of fun though.

Although it may be a similar situation to the Stormzy x Pogba collaboration.

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Where are all the ITK's who were saying it is a done deal? feeling pretty foolish right now I would say.

I have posted earlier saying there is no chance with Bayern, Juve, Barca options available he would chose UTD.

For someone young and in demand, you want to see:

1. A clear playing style - Ole wants to play counter attacking - not De Ligt's preference.
2. Champions League - After getting to semis, you want to be successful
3. Challenging - Not for 6th but for titles.
4. Team mates - Messi, Ronaldo, or Phil Jones...

The one thing that everyone mentions is Ole as manager will fail to attract players - I don't think this plays that big of a deal.
 
There seems a lot of comments saying he’s going to juve, I don’t see anything certain he’s agreed anywhere. Or have I missed something?
 
romufc said:
Where are all the ITK's who were saying it is a done deal? feeling pretty foolish right now I would say.

I have posted earlier saying there is no chance with Bayern, Juve, Barca options available he would chose UTD.

For someone young and in demand, you want to see:

1. A clear playing style - Ole wants to play counter attacking - not De Ligt's preference.
2. Champions League - After getting to semis, you want to be successful
3. Challenging - Not for 6th but for titles.
4. Team mates - Messi, Ronaldo, or Phil Jones...

The one thing that everyone mentions is Ole as manager will fail to attract players - I don't think this plays that big of a deal.
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Why would anyone feel foolish?
Any statement from club or player? No
Any pictures of player being presented wearing new club kit? No
 
Figgins said:
There seems a lot of comments saying he’s going to juve, I don’t see anything certain he’s agreed anywhere. Or have I missed something?
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Have missed nothing, there’s zero official communication from anyone, player, agent or any of the rumored clubs
 
Which makes the Juve deal even more strange. All the top journos said it was like 95% done, terms agreed blah blah when he was on holiday..now De Ligt himself is back in Europe and all of a sudden there is no progress on the deal? Does not add up
 
gr3yham3 said:
Which makes the Juve deal even more strange. All the top journos said it was like 95% done, terms agreed blah blah when he was on holiday..now De Ligt himself is back in Europe and all of a sudden there is no progress on the deal? Does not add up
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Maybe he is hoping PSG and Juve get into a bidding war and he and his agent get maximum money.
 
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