De Ligt plans to leave Juve before he joins Juve. Riaola what a legend.
Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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Same place where the story of him being even remotely interested in joining us is. Nowhere
How are we on page 246 I will never know.There is no official word other than people giving their opinions on Twitter
Good move by PSG if true. Imagine looking to feck off before even kicking a ball. Reminds me of Di Maria, look how that turned out Mental. Best to avoid.
Never in my entire life i envisioned a day that we can't afford or even in the race for a talent in a position we have dying need for.
Beyond caring.
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Beyond caring.
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Doesn't Neymar have a release clause, which changes every summer he's there?
Thats because we were never officially "in".. Better save face and chuck it. Lets just give it to Darmien.
Officially, release clauses are illegal in France.
Why is Ajax selling him for so low? Why don't they hold out for 100m+?
Maybe it’s a clause or it’s media bullshit.
Artificial saga, the longer it drags, the less logic in all of this.
Hopefully he'll return from vacation and be done with it.
Hopefully he'll return from vacation and be done with it.
Never in my entire life i envisioned a day that we can't afford or even in the race for a talent in a position we have dying need for.
Beyond caring.
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Really? Never? Do you remember the time when Hazard almost joined us but we cheaped out and he went to Chelsea instead? That's at least a title or two lost right there in that one transfer mistake. Then there was a time when we didn't want to pay 25m for David Silva. There's so many examples of the time when we didn't pay the money for exactly the player we wanted and needed. De Ligt might be way down the list of important missed targets.
Balague looking good out of this one. We were never in the equation.
The 150m clause ie the Barca Madrid come and get me when you think I'm worth the full wage clause. PSG weren't going to fall for that one.
The 150m clause ie the Barca Madrid come and get me when you think I'm worth the full wage clause. PSG weren't going to fall for that one.
Why? If he's sold for 150mm in 3-4 years, it means that the profit on the sale covers his wages in its entirety so essentially you've had the player play for free. What's there NOT to like from the club's perspective? Or should we prefer Rojo, Darmian, Jones and other deadweights instead who contribute nothing on the footballing side and just cost money.
The 150m release clause is valid only after his fist season, it keeps rising every season afterwards. So it will probably be 225 million or something in 3 years, I wouldn't have an issue with De Ligt coming here with such clause. Either he stays for a long time or makes huge profit for us in 3 seasons, win-win situation. Too bad we never stood a chance to sign him.
At least we were in the race bro. This is not even that case. Flat out.
P/s : talking about cheaping out, remember ronaldinho? That was epic as well.
I find it funny how this merry go round is still going on - Riaola might be the straw that breaks the camel's back with regards how how agent's operate. This surely isn't good for any club and certainly isn't good for De Ligt's reputation (although his wallet will be slightly bigger) because he seems not to care where he goes and has just given Riaola free reign to get him a monster payday.
Strange that a club as big as Juve would entertain the thought of accepting a release clause into the contract even before the player is theirs. It is just wrong to me. Even PSG told Raiola to piss off
His wages are insane. Fair play to Raiola for getting him that wedge.
There still in a crap league. They are well aware the Spanish league and Prem is where top players want to spend their peak years.
Would we accept that. I doubt it.
We're not in position to turn down De Ligt based on some contract clauses when the best we can do are the likes of Wan-Bissaka - and we still have to pay 80% of De Ligt's fee for the likes of Wan-Bissaka.
€150m is huge money. The current record for a CB is roughly half of that. Wages are also huge, he becomes the highest paid CB in Europe together with Sergio Ramos
Just because there's going to be a buyout clause doesn't make it likely for it to be triggered...
Just because there's going to be a buyout clause doesn't make it likely for it to be triggered...
The reports are saying that it's €150m during the first season, and rising afterwards. Do you think he's likely to leave next summer? I doubt it, so even if Juve are forced to accept a transfer bid at some point in the future, they'll still earn far more than that.
So is it confirmed?
No we are. We are not in a position to low ball on wages. But we will not be told how to sell.. I doubt ever. It’s not how we operate.
No. They reached an agreement on wages. Still need to reach an agreement with Ajax and then the player has to accept and sign the contract. Reports are he's ready to do so, but you never know. Seen at least one report saying he'd yet to decide whether to accept the offer or not
There was an Ornstein interview in which he said United were, at the time, the only club to table an official bid with Ajax. But he rejected, presumably, wanting different terms. According to Ornstein, we'd be revisiting the offer.
That's the only official Tier 1 info I've seen about us and De Ligt and an official bid from a club outside Barca. The rest of this noise about deals with Juve and PSG are all 'sums and terms agreed' but no concrete bids yet. Could be info being fed from Raiola to get United to improve their personal terms with De Ligt, which seems like the only thing left to do.
He's coming here. Just a matter of time. I mean, I've had worse trauma from Vidal and Thiago so this really is easy muppetry
Is tier 1 the new double pivot?
Does it feel like we are waiting on his decision whether to join us and then move all in for Maguire once he decides not to? Or is Juve set and done? Anyway i can't see us accepting and inserting that release clause into his contract though
To be honest this is the most confusing transfer.
Not surprised PSG wouldn't be too pleased about him insisting for a release clause.
But then he's clearly a smart cookie and has taken a simple look at neymar and mbappe being stuck there
But then he's clearly a smart cookie and has taken a simple look at neymar and mbappe being stuck there
Could make a nice sell on fee though.
Anyone got Riola's contact details? I have my PDP at work coming up and want him in the room with me
Of course not. Modern day slavers would hate any sort of contractual escape route.
Don't feel comfortable about getting a player who demands a buyout clause before even joining.
He clearly wants to go to Barca/Madrid in his prime and we'd be paying huge money and his wages to help him reach his prime (helping him iron out his mistakes with us). No thanks.
150m will be nothing in a season or two. Kids who have barely played a season (or even less) are going for 100+ million these days. Also I don't want any more of that fat cnut's players. Nothing but drama.
He clearly wants to go to Barca/Madrid in his prime and we'd be paying huge money and his wages to help him reach his prime (helping him iron out his mistakes with us). No thanks.
150m will be nothing in a season or two. Kids who have barely played a season (or even less) are going for 100+ million these days. Also I don't want any more of that fat cnut's players. Nothing but drama.
Look at it the other way.
The upside of signing him now is that the contractor will likely have a very good defender for a handful of years and then will sell him for a profit. The downside is the the club that signs him now won't have him at his prime, since he seems the kind of guy who'll want a challenge in more than one major league.
Still, both clubs in this hypothetical scenario are going to get something from him. There's even space for a third club to have him at some point. The only clubs that won't benefit are the ones that never sign him in any period.
So, if we could sign him now, I say go for it. Even if he leaves later on, we would benefit greatly from this transfer.
Still, if we don't sign him now, a bridge should be built to try and snatch him later. Hopefully we'll reestablish ourselves as a powerhouse and can be an attractive proposition for a peak de Ligt. I'm not sold on this "everyone dreams of Spain" circle jerk.
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So he told Barca no, and now is making obscene demands to join PSG?
Its all gone to his head. Not a good look.
Its all gone to his head. Not a good look.
You really think fees will move up that much? There's still only about 4 or 5 players ever to go for more than 100m.
I'd say a massive burst of the bubble is way more likely, players signing shorter contracts, teams looking more to youth teamers etc. Even clubs like United can't pay 300m in one summer, so it's surely coming to a big crossroads.
This guy appears to be a bit of a tit.
I guess he's only a baby though.
I guess he's only a baby though.
I said ages ago he's a crazy Dutchie. They all are to be fair.
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