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Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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The only way to keep top players is to have success. Being British does not make a top player bound to an underperforming English club. There are exceptions yes, but usually no. Even Liverpools golden boy Gerard wanted out at some point. Heck, the very reason we were able to get the very best of the premier league was because with us players had the best chance of winning trophies.
So if we get De Ligt, Mbappe, Sancho or whoever and in 2/3 or so years we are in the same situation, then of course they should be trying to leave. It's the clubs job to build a team that can compete and as a result keep and attract the best players.
So if we get De Ligt, Mbappe, Sancho or whoever and in 2/3 or so years we are in the same situation, then of course they should be trying to leave. It's the clubs job to build a team that can compete and as a result keep and attract the best players.
As funny as it this is, I'm one hundred percent of the same mindset. And I'm not any sort of masochist. Life's about enjoying the now not worrying so much about the future. Sticking with the Jennifer Lawrence analogy, dating her raises your own profile. So even if she moves on in a few years there'll be more suitors down the line.
Funny how we're talking about Manchester United as if it's as unattractive and poor a dating prospect as us caftards are. In fact, United is still an A-list celebrity. Like, say, Robert Downy Jr, all it will take is one or two good seasons to forget all the mugshots.
At this point De ligt and his camp are playing games. We can't waste a whole summer chasing after him. We need to put a deadline for end of his week for him and his people to either accept or reject our offer. There are other targets that we can focus on. Maguire for example, City might be interested in him so the sooner we start going after him the better.
Just can't see De Ligt will pick Man Utd over Barca, Juventus or City. He can learn a lot more tactically in Juventus and City, he can also earn as much in City as well. Barca being Barca has the best weather and also a playing style he can fit in seamlessly. I just don't see any reason why he will pick Man Utd over other options he has on hand. All the 3 teams mentioned are challenging for league and CL trophies every season too.
Playing in a team with CR7, Messi or KDB or a team with Martial & Rashford, which one will you pick?
Playing in a team with CR7, Messi or KDB or a team with Martial & Rashford, which one will you pick?
I bet he'd rather play with Guendouzi and Xhaka.
On a serious note, it's obvious United is the worst choice on paper for him tactically/trophy wise.
I just tried to point out may be wise to chase players that are obtainable, rather than being used by the agent to get a better offer else where.
There's every chance J Lawrence might love the under dog after 3 years rather than what she initially thought.
Jennifer lawrence is average though.
Jennifer lawrence is average though.
I think he is interested in working alongside the reputed J-Lingz in building up his brand profile, ‘MDLit*flame emoji*’ perhaps ?
Fair enough.
Can we get the title of the thread changed to, “no one is laughing now”
What you on about? Who the hell wouldn’t want to play with J lingzzz and smashley Young?
The one that offers a starting place. De Ligt is captain of Ajax, he's not going to go to a club where he is relegated to the bench frequently.
These players are much less fanboys when they are already at this level. Messi and CR7 only have a few good seasons in them before their careers are sadly over. Finances absolutely do count, and City can't match us there.
In my view PSG looks like a likely destination if they match our financial offer and can promise first team regular football. Not so much because they have star players, but because they are always challenging for Europe, play in a good competetive league that he can continue to develop in, and have the finances to keep being strong.
Manchester United at this time can offer De Ligt a stupid high salary, Premier League starting XI football, and similiar circumstances that he came up in Ajax with - a team on the build. If a miracle does happen and he goes to Man United, Premier League matching and starting XI + money will be the deciding factor, in that order.
While PSG must be tempting, the French league is underwhelming for someone who wants to be a star of the game.
When the god of trophies invites you in you have to be an absolute idiot to say no.
eh?
On a side note that's why we are after Ryan Fraser instead of other popular choice in the market. But even then we may not get him this summer because of the 40M quoted price.
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Alexander Isak is leaving BVB for 10M euro. I can't believe we are not interested in him.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...exander_Isak&usg=AOvVaw1rm9dcQErpgnEw0fFXLHnN
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I think we should take the gamble and go for De Ligt even with the uncertainty of him leaving in 4-5 years because I doubt Messi-less Barca will be as dominant and appealing then.
So? We should also lower our ambitions?
Looks like you're paying 25m for Carrasco in installments.
Kroenke could be the worst owner in the league.
Im telling you this guy is 1000000% coming to us. Hear me out this is how its going down:
- Constant stories about him not deciding where to go and it will be after his holidays
- If he was that serious about Barca do you think they would still wait for him in a few weeks? No Chance.
- This is all his fat agents plan to get all the hype drummed up because he has agreed a deal with us.
- In return.. we will allow pogba to go madrid and we will get some money and a player or two in the deal. Madrid cant afford him with the money they have shelled out already. Only way we let him leave is if we get a player or two our way. I can see a 2 year Bale loan deal where we just pay half his wages with Madrid (the other half Madrid use for pogbas salary & also a fringe player (maybe odegaard).
So all in all heres my prediction.
We get De Ligt with some insane marketing like we did with pogba. Pogba goes to madrid and we get (odegaard & bale).
Our summer will then look like this (if rumours are to be believed)
Ins
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James
Bale
De Ligt
AWB
Odegaard
Bruno Fernandez
Rice/Raboit
Out
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De Gea (promote Henderson/Romero & give them the season)
Pogba
Lukaku
Mata
Herrera
Valancia
Henderson
AWB De Ligt Lindelof Shaw
Matic Bruno Raboit
Rashford Bale Martial
...Thats my guess
- Constant stories about him not deciding where to go and it will be after his holidays
- If he was that serious about Barca do you think they would still wait for him in a few weeks? No Chance.
- This is all his fat agents plan to get all the hype drummed up because he has agreed a deal with us.
- In return.. we will allow pogba to go madrid and we will get some money and a player or two in the deal. Madrid cant afford him with the money they have shelled out already. Only way we let him leave is if we get a player or two our way. I can see a 2 year Bale loan deal where we just pay half his wages with Madrid (the other half Madrid use for pogbas salary & also a fringe player (maybe odegaard).
So all in all heres my prediction.
We get De Ligt with some insane marketing like we did with pogba. Pogba goes to madrid and we get (odegaard & bale).
Our summer will then look like this (if rumours are to be believed)
Ins
----
James
Bale
De Ligt
AWB
Odegaard
Bruno Fernandez
Rice/Raboit
Out
----
De Gea (promote Henderson/Romero & give them the season)
Pogba
Lukaku
Mata
Herrera
Valancia
Henderson
AWB De Ligt Lindelof Shaw
Matic Bruno Raboit
Rashford Bale Martial
...Thats my guess
Didn't Arsenal want Martial 12 months ago? Strange for you to use him in a derogatory sense
As Sanchez showed throw enough money at someone and they can turn down the more obvious destinations. Alas De Ligt doesn't strike me as that type but then he has got into bed with Raiola so who knows
Second the motion!Can we get the title of the thread changed to, “no one is laughing now”
I will conclude from the last few pages of this thread that the deal is on because of Jennifer Lawrence.
Imagine if 'no ones laughing now' turns out being used like 'blah blah blah' was for Pogbas transfer, Ballbag would be the saltiest person alive
At this point I`m not certain if he is that good or if everyone is riding the hype train. Raiola certainly knows how to handle such situations.
I'm in, I'm invested, I am ready to buy a de Ligt shirt.
Just to it, i wrote on Facebook a month ago that it's going to happen.
I'm ITK. In the kitchen
Her boyfriend also paid you 60 million euros, you will be fine.
My grandma's cousin is a little bit Dutch. Ergo, I win.
He’s a good prospect but I don’t get why fans get so caught up with a kid who has played a couple of good seasons of football. There are no guarantees with players and that’s especially true for players as young as him and, with all due respect, playing in a weak league. We should move on to the next best option unless we are clear favorites to sign him. Once he decides to go to Barca or whatever, we’ll end up fighting for next best player with PSG, Juve etc.
We are probably the only team where he'll have literally zero competition for his place. Anywhere else, there are strong players that he has to compete with. It does somehow feel like he's gonna choose us based on his comments.
In the mean time, I hope we are already focusing on a back up if this doesn't work out. Koulibaly and Maguire are too pricy. I have no clue about Ruben Diaz. Then we have Alderweireld who is a cheap option.
In the mean time, I hope we are already focusing on a back up if this doesn't work out. Koulibaly and Maguire are too pricy. I have no clue about Ruben Diaz. Then we have Alderweireld who is a cheap option.
Wont make any difference,that pr!ck of an agent of his decides what happens.
I really think that De Ligt won't consider going to PSG or Juventus. He would pick Man utd or Barcelona because when he was younger, man utd were one of the biggest clubs out there competing in all fronts. If you are 30 years old and choosing which club then Juventus would enter the equation. The Dutch have a different culture than South American or generally Spanish speaking players in looking for highest pay check or wanting to move to La Liga as their ultimate dream. They don't really see Italian league or French league as something big in that respect. They grew up with PL ,la Liga and the bundesliga.
What I am trying to say is that his motivations are not so money based that he would choose Juventus or PSG because I really think the PL and La Liga are his focus. I get this from his interviews but also his social media where he liked picture above one of the ex man utd players posting a picture of the CL celebrations from 2008. This is not taking into account the fact he would wants more playing time which he wouldn't really get playing for those teams mentioned.
What I am trying to say is that his motivations are not so money based that he would choose Juventus or PSG because I really think the PL and La Liga are his focus. I get this from his interviews but also his social media where he liked picture above one of the ex man utd players posting a picture of the CL celebrations from 2008. This is not taking into account the fact he would wants more playing time which he wouldn't really get playing for those teams mentioned.
We arent even in the picture according to all the reliable journos. Its between PSG, Juve and Barca.
And again, eh:
Moving to PSG would show a huge lack of ambition.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he came here and he's the sort of signing that would make Pogba stay. Equally we're not the most appealing destination right now, but the same could be said of Barcelona. Messi only has a handful of seasons left and he is their SAF and CR7 all rolled into one. When he goes it will make for spectacular viewing and I wouldn't want to be there as one of the game's top prospects when it happens.
I'm gonna assume he's an ex of Jennifer Lawrence
In a strange mix of the plot of passengers and the real life "fappening" pictures, you could accumulate quite a highlights reel over the space of 3 years.
I'd sign all the necessary paperwork to ensure the videos were for personal use only and not to be distributed.
Any future partner wouldn't have a problem I'm sure as many couples have the "free pass" conversation about a celebrity.
Grab joy when and where you can, life is too short to deny yourself opportunities like this when they come along.
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