Its all related though, if we are more solid at the back and can win back possession better and more we will have more time on teh ball to create more chances.
Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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Its all related though, if we are more solid at the back and can win back possession better and more we will have more time on teh ball to create more chances.
As I said in the twitter thread the idea he wouldn't be first choice at Barca is bonkers. He'd walk straight into their starting XI
I think many of the comments saying we should forget him are pretty reactionary and self righteous. It's the same folks that denigrate Manchester as a city for being cold and now turn their nose up to a player coming just because it's not forever.
It doesn't sound like a loan to me. It sounds like a very normal football career for a top player. But it also sounds very presumptuous. If he joins with a short term stint in mind, it does not mean he wont fall in love with the club and decide to stay longer. What if our fortunes reverse and a post Messi Barca slides? Perhaps the appeal changes.
There's a chance one of the most promising young centerbacks and a leader is considering United. It could be for one week and it would still be helpful for the current United.
It's happening boys
If he's coming here just so he can move to Barca when he's at his peak, I don't know how I feel about that. Of course it could all be shit journos stirring bullshite up.
With how football is moving, we can expect more and more players to see out their contracts and move to other clubs. Imagine if we spend crazy money on him, only for him to see out his contract and move to Barca.
Most importantly, i don't care about all of this if he is a proper professional on the pitch and gives his all every match. If we win something along the way, that would be great!
With how football is moving, we can expect more and more players to see out their contracts and move to other clubs. Imagine if we spend crazy money on him, only for him to see out his contract and move to Barca.
Most importantly, i don't care about all of this if he is a proper professional on the pitch and gives his all every match. If we win something along the way, that would be great!
We've been through that with Cristiano already. If its possible to bring him in now it needs doing. Otherwise its pointless worrying about the future. By time we're a few years down the line the likes of Everton, Wolves, Newcastle and Watford might've caught up/passed us.
This is always going to be a problem, even more so now when we go after top talent while we aren't at the top ourselves.
Even if it only for 3 years, I don't think it is that bad. Plus, who knows, post Messi Barca would not be as invincible anymore. Just this past season, even with Messi at his top form, couldn't do anything to stop Liverpool. He might even change his opinion on his "dream" club/project.
We wouldn't say the Ronaldo years were a waste because he moved on and spent his peak elsewhere. If De Ligt stays here for 3-5 years and we've rebuilt properly by then it'll be completely worth it. He's a once in a generation talent for his position and you can't let the chance go just because he might not stay his whole career.
‘I’ll come to you for 3 years then I’m off to the team I really want to be with’
If somebody came to me with that attitude I’d throw him straight out the window. It may just be journo-stir but we really can’t afford to make mistakes this summer.
He knows exactly where he is going, the game playing really turns me off the boy. He is either doing it himself or is too easily led by agents. Either way I don’t care how good he may or not be I don’t want that crap in my team.
If somebody came to me with that attitude I’d throw him straight out the window. It may just be journo-stir but we really can’t afford to make mistakes this summer.
He knows exactly where he is going, the game playing really turns me off the boy. He is either doing it himself or is too easily led by agents. Either way I don’t care how good he may or not be I don’t want that crap in my team.
I suspect it's largely Raiola and the media kicking up the storm. I mean all he has said in every interview is that he hasn't decided yet and won't do so until he's had a holiday. We don't know what happens behind the scenes but we do know for certain that Raiola is a devious man who only wants to maximize his agent fee. He does that by playing clubs against each other and feeding rumours to the media.
There were loads of games last season where we completely dominated possession and created feck all so I don't see how it would help. Where it would (hopefully) help is that'd we would concede less goals, obviously.
I don’t know. Do you think they would immediately bench Pique? Because I think they want to keep playing Lenglet because he needs to develop since he will be their future starting CB.
I suspect it's all because of the media. One of the hottest properties in football is open to a new club. And after a few weeks there still isn't real news. Let ask the guy himself. Ah, he said he didn't make up his mind yet. Hmm, must be about money then. Who's his agent? Riaola? Ah, yes. Certainly about money.
It's not about money. It's about what's best for him. He needs a place where he can learn and has a fair chance of playtime. When he says he didn't choose yet, he didn't choose. Not all players are playing mindgames or are trying to create a bidding war.
You could argue that Cristiano leaving coincided with our downfall and the emergence of Real Madrid success wise, only halted by the brilliance of Sir AF.
He has not even come here and people are talking about leaving already.
Raiola is going to squeeze every last penny out of Barca without even throwing a single chairWhat a fecking diva. Acting like he's Beckanbauer. We should stay away from Raiola clients.
He'll play alongside Pique
Lenglet will be discarded as was Umtiti before him. When Pique does decide to retire they'll just sign another CB again
Have to admit if you are a player ,you would want Raiola on your side, which agent can bring Barca on their knees
Would you? So he can pimp you out every 2 or 3 years? No thanks.
Oh cmon...
Could do. But they both play best as a right centre back! It makes a difference, like with Lindelof for us, much more confident on the right side of defence!
If he wants to play every game, be the first name on the teamsheet and add to United's great history with Dutch players, he'll join us.
And I suspect that's what he wants.
Of course Cruijff could also "push" him towards Barca....
And I suspect that's what he wants.
Of course Cruijff could also "push" him towards Barca....
You don't want to unsettle Rashy.To be fair, I don't think he was. I think that was DDG.
He'll play every game and be the first name on the teamsheet of any team he joins.
If that's the only thing we can offer upcoming players then God help us.
He didn't say shit yet how is he a diva? He's one of the most mature players in his age group. Just because the media writes about him every day doesn't mean he's difficult to deal with.
If Jennifer Lawrence offered me a 3 year relationship before going back to a rich, good looking movie star boyfriend, I wouldn't say no based on some sense of self respect.
Nothing, just disdain at best for some lucky guys who think they have changed because of that.
I don't think he is going to Barcelona. He would not get as many games as he would like to and he would just be another good player in a stacked Barcelona team where Messi gets all the credit if they win. He will play every single game here he wants to and he will be paid a lot more. Here he would also be the face of our franchise along with Pogba and Rashford.
I don't think he is going to PSG either, they don't sell their good players ever and I don't see him playing in France either. Juventus and Bayern on the other hand can't offer the money (in terms of salary).
Get the lube boys - he is coming
I don't think he is going to PSG either, they don't sell their good players ever and I don't see him playing in France either. Juventus and Bayern on the other hand can't offer the money (in terms of salary).
Get the lube boys - he is coming
This might be the best post I’ve read in ages and I fully agree.
I actually feel like Manchester United Is probably the best choice for him and if we aren’t back on top of the perch in 4 or 5 years we’ll then he can move on and still not be at his prime. Let’s face it, he’ll walk in to our team and play in the toughest league in the world. Feel like that will do more for his development than sitting watching Pique and Lenglet for a few months and playing say every other game.
said so much better than what I said. Bravo.Most mature player in his age group are you mates with him?
Constantly talking about his future in interviews. I wonder why the media keeps writing about him, a head scratcher that one. Everyone keeps blaming Raiola, he does nudge the players to be a massive cnut but ultimately its the player who calls the shots.
But what if you fall in love with J-Law and get emotionally attached? What if, as the end of those three years loom, you grow anxious knowing that this will inevitably end in heart-break and you ultimately break down in a fiery cesspit of despair. The three years passing, and just as you thought you and her were beginning to build something special, she does what she said she'd do all along and leaves you for another, and you're left there, alone, after three years spent with the most wonderful woman in the world, you have to rebuild, yet again, from the ground up, you have to try find another woman, but you've already spent three years with J-Law, three damn years building a strong relationship, laying the groundwork only for it to be ripped apart from you by that lead singer cnut from Coldplay or whoever. You now wonder to yourself if it was really, truly worth it as you sit there depressed curled in a ball sprawled across your own feces with no hope left in the world. And what did you get out of it anyway? She didn't give you the best years of her life, no, she used to as a tool to mature before f*cking off to ColdPlay dude in the prime of her life and being an even better girlfriend to him.
Who hurt you?
Who cares if he could help us get back to challenging ways. If he became so good and Barca wanted him we wouldn’t lose money I doubt.
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