Matteo Darmian

I still feel like he could do a job under a decent manager like Jose. LVG just killed him.
 
They can piss off with their loan. They can buy him outright or we can find someone who will. We paid little to begin with so its not like we're expecting a huge windfall anyway.

What we don't need is risk having him continue his United form at Inter and being stuck with another player we don't intend to use on decent wages.
 
thats fantastic if we manage to sell him to Conte them to begin even more mediocre
 
izec said:
Yes, it is him. I assume Darmian will play there a lot of times, since on the right they have D Ambrosio and Ansaldi. Ansaldi is a LB at RB and Santon is a RB at LB. Darmian can play both sides too.
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Darmian's a very average leftback imo. If Inter's buying him to play him on the left, they'll be disappointed.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Hindsight is 20/20. Most here wanted us to avoid Nat Clyne at all costs and go all out for Darmian. We did, and the general consensus was that it was an excellent buy at the time.
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Yup, most didn't want Clyne, myself included. However, most admitted that they hadn't seen Darmian play; I certainly hadn't seen him play, anyway. Most of the hype on here emanated from a band of posters that claimed to have watched him quite-a-bit and said that he was brilliant.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Yup, most didn't want Clyne, myself included. However, most admitted that they hadn't seen Darmian play; I certainly hadn't seen him play, anyway. Most of the hype on here emanated from a band of posters that claimed to have watched him quite-a-bit and said that he was brilliant.
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Brilliant no, but a very good player, playing in a set up and system that complimented him. Darmian has the ability to play in the Premier league, but he's severely lacking the confidence. Looks like there's no way back for him, he's now behind a 2nd choice teenager for his preferred position at United.
 
Red_toad said:
Brilliant no, but a very good player, playing in a set up and system that complimented him. Darmian has the ability to play in the Premier league, but he's severely lacking the confidence. Looks like there's no way back for him, he's now behind a 2nd choice teenager for his preferred position at United.
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He's probably behind Young also. I think most of his problems have stemmed from his poor stamina, just can't adapt to the pace of the PL.
 
There was a small window where he kept making people's world 11 on here.
 
Cascarino said:
There was a small window where he kept making people's world 11 on here.
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I'd hope that those posters watched a lot of Serie A. he was supposedly really good in Serie A.

I watched a handful of games of his for the Italian NT and he also looked really, really good. Mainly at RB iirc.

But yeah, he's just ill-suited to this league it seems, and his confidence is gone. When we signed him it was actually said his an extreme introvert. Shy etc. So it's no real surprise that he's struggled to adapt. A bit like AdM I suppose. Started well and just looked like a fraud of a footballer the more time passed.
 
Still a good player. Gets linked with Conte, Juve and Inter every week. His reputation seems to be intact.

A bad first season for us and the PL can happen, he didnt bounce back and didnt get regular games to show he has improved. Life goes on.
 
Ish said:
I'd hope that those posters watched a lot of Serie A. he was supposedly really good in Serie A.

I watched a handful of games of his for the Italian NT and he also looked really, really good. Mainly at RB iirc.

But yeah, he's just ill-suited to this league it seems, and his confidence is gone. When we signed him it was actually said his an extreme introvert. Shy etc. So it's no real surprise that he's struggled to adapt. A bit like AdM I suppose. Started well and just looked like a fraud of a footballer the more time passed.
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I'd never seen him for Torino, but I have to agree that when I'd seen him for Italy in the NT, he looked really good, and while I may be distorting my recollections, I surprisingly remember him looking really good going forward too.
 
tentan said:
He should've left in the summer.
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His agent said United put a block on any potential move. Jose might've wanted to see how TFM fared before letting him go. That or we couldn't sign Fabinho.
 
Cascarino said:
I'd never seen him for Torino, but I have to agree that when I'd seen him for Italy in the NT, he looked really good, and while I may be distorting my recollections, I surprisingly remember him looking really good going forward too.
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That's the weird part yea, the (admittedly minimal) games I saw him for the Azzurri, he was good going forward, providing most of their width down the right - as the Italians struggled with a proper winger (I think they deployed a diamond midfield).

I think for various reasons he's just struggled to settle and adapt to the EPL. There was always this talk about how SAF would scout players' character and mentality before we signed them & it almost feels as if we missed this trick with Darmian. By all accounts, he's a very shy, humble, soft-spoken lad. So it always seemed upheaval that he'd adapt, especially once his confidence went.
 
He's a weird one. When he came his defending looked top notch. Schweinsteiger talked about how incredibly fast he was, and now Darmian looks quite slow and can't defend. Very weird.
 
Rossa said:
He's a weird one. When he came his defending looked top notch. Schweinsteiger talked about how incredibly fast he was, and now Darmian looks quite slow and can't defend. Very weird.
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Aye, that's a weird one indeed. He looks like one of the slowest players on the squad at the moment, and my perception of him was that speed was one of his biggest assets.
 
Rossa said:
He's a weird one. When he came his defending looked top notch. Schweinsteiger talked about how incredibly fast he was, and now Darmian looks quite slow and can't defend. Very weird.
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Don't think he happy here and his heart probably just isn't in playing for Man Utd. Never injured or missed a game for 4 years before coming here and then went off last season quite a few times with minor knocks.
 
Ish said:
Aye, that's a weird one indeed. He looks like one of the slowest players on the squad at the moment, and my perception of him was that speed was one of his biggest assets.
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Exactly, you don't lose pace from changing from one league to another - unless one of those leagues is Norwegian, in which case the pace is pedestrian and anyone who can jog will look fast. Darmian doesn't look like an athlete, at all, and I think you need to be one to play fullback.
 
stevoc said:
Don't think he happy here and his heart probably just isn't in playing for Man Utd. Never injured or missed a game for 4 years before coming here and then went off last season quite a few times with minor knocks.
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Could be, but that doesn't explain why he looks so ridiculously slow, especially off the mark. It looks like anyone can pretty much just knock the ball past him and run.
 
Rossa said:
Could be, but that doesn't explain why he looks so ridiculously slow, especially off the mark. It looks like anyone can pretty much just knock the ball past him and run.
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Me saying his heart might not be in it was just a nicer way of saying he's probably not arsed in general, it's possible he's not busting his balls and running flat out to keep up with people.
 
While i think he has the quality to be a good right back i don't think he can ever be the attacking threat we need on that side. We should sell and fund a move for Fabinho.
 
stevoc said:
Me saying his heart might not be in it was just a nicer way of saying he's probably not arsed in general, it's possible he's not busting his balls and running flat out to keep up with people.
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Maybe, he does look a little disinterested, but judging from that, Martial looks to be daydreaming most of the time.
 
Sepukku said:
While i think he has the quality to be a good right back i don't think he can ever be the attacking threat we need on that side. We should sell and fund a move for Fabinho.
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Have you seen Fabinho play? Most reports say that he is good defensively but quite poor in attack and that he lacks a little pace.
 
Rossa said:
Could be, but that doesn't explain why he looks so ridiculously slow, especially off the mark. It looks like anyone can pretty much just knock the ball past him and run.
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Poor stamina. He looks great in a slow tempo where he can get his breathe back, but if you cant do that and recover you look slow and weak.
 
Rossa said:
Have you seen Fabinho play? Most reports say that he is good defensively but quite poor in attack and that he lacks a little pace.
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Truth is haven't. But he's on the international football news. A right back who scores and makes the headlines for more than 6 months must be better than any of ours.
 
Sepukku said:
Truth is haven't. But he's on the international football news. A right back who scores and makes the headlines for more than 6 months must be better than any of ours.
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:lol::lol::lol:

I'm hoping this post isn't serious.
 
Sepukku said:
Truth is haven't. But he's on the international football news. A right back who scores and makes the headlines for more than 6 months must be better than any of ours.
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That is just weird then. Never seen him play either, but he is certainly not thought of as a good attacking fullback from what I gather. So you think we should go for someone you've never seen play... Bebe-ish that one
 
Looks more than decent in the last couple of games. Not world beater by any stretch but looks better than second half of last season. Could still be a useful player.
 
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