Oh... Well then... Should be pretty reliable
Mats Hummels
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Real shame.
Bit disappointed to be honest.
Despite his inconsistent form this season, Hummels offers the right kind of experience + quality profile that our defense needs. Shaw is 20, Smalling and Jones are still developing from a leadership standpoint, who knows who'll play on the rightback position next season. We could've done with some added steadying influence.
If Mats is ruled out, Gimenez or Laporte make a lot of sense as the fallback option(s). The former might not be willing to move just yet, but the latter has arguably been one of the Top 5 young central defenders in Europe for the past couple of seasons, quite intelligent and a very natural defender, and predominantly left footed - which suits Louis' requirements. A weaker Euro means this clause is a reasonable £30 million. But again, he's just one year older than Shaw, and relatively green. Transitioning from being a defender in La Liga is to the Premier League will require a significant learning curve, if only from a stylistic perspective, and ideally you'd want someone who could slot in right away.
Stones might be worth a punt in an FM style trade + cash deal for Evans, if the rumors linking him with Everton are to be believed. Great potential and kind of accustomed to the league.
Despite his inconsistent form this season, Hummels offers the right kind of experience + quality profile that our defense needs. Shaw is 20, Smalling and Jones are still developing from a leadership standpoint, who knows who'll play on the rightback position next season. We could've done with some added steadying influence.
If Mats is ruled out, Gimenez or Laporte make a lot of sense as the fallback option(s). The former might not be willing to move just yet, but the latter has arguably been one of the Top 5 young central defenders in Europe for the past couple of seasons, quite intelligent and a very natural defender, and predominantly left footed - which suits Louis' requirements. A weaker Euro means this clause is a reasonable £30 million. But again, he's just one year older than Shaw, and relatively green. Transitioning from being a defender in La Liga is to the Premier League will require a significant learning curve, if only from a stylistic perspective, and ideally you'd want someone who could slot in right away.
Stones might be worth a punt in an FM style trade + cash deal for Evans, if the rumors linking him with Everton are to be believed. Great potential and kind of accustomed to the league.
Not fussed at all. He's looked terrible this season, and there were real question marks over him. For the fee mooted, I am glad we re steering clear. My guess is that we decided to pass.
Out of all the defenders linked/obtainable Godin is really the one who stands out every time, Hummels this season hasn't impressed.
The way Smalling and Jones have paired up has been really impressive, aside from that little bit extra on the ball they have everything. If only they could stay fit. The way they handled the likes of Kane and Giroud was brilliant to watch. And we don't need to improve our defense dramatically to help our build up play, midfield is just as important. A fit Carrick or another great player there would help our football just as much as signing Hummels.
Ah well.,thought this was a done deal.. Won't be too disappointed about it though,was worried about his injury record...
I agree with whoever said we should try harder for Godin. Experience is what we need. Buying Laporte or Giminez would be a brilliant move, but at the same time wouldn't immediately and obviously improve our defence.
In saying that, a very good defensive midfielder would go a long way too.
Hummels would've been a brilliant buy too, and could still be. It's not even summer yet like!
In saying that, a very good defensive midfielder would go a long way too.
Hummels would've been a brilliant buy too, and could still be. It's not even summer yet like!
Bottled it
Him, not us
Him, not us
Hummels(WC winner, world class for years with problems in one crazy season for club and team) or keep playing 2 young defenders who havent done anything bigger in football.
Yeah. United passed on him. Sure...
Maybe he took Dortmund over United. Just a guess.
Great for Dortmund. He is just 26. A summers rest and he will be back at full strength.
Yeah. United passed on him. Sure...
Maybe he took Dortmund over United. Just a guess.
Great for Dortmund. He is just 26. A summers rest and he will be back at full strength.
I reckon LvG has concluded Hummels might struggle with the pace of the PL
I don't think he would be very good in England to be honest. Would be too scared to ruin his hair and damage his beautiful face. Bastard.
Saying something negative about him right now would probably be considered sour grapes but Hummels really isn't that great, I know a lot of people who regularly watch Dortmund who don't rate him that highly these days
Hummels(WC winner, world class for years with problems in one crazy season for club and team) or keep playing 2 young defenders who havent done anything bigger in football.
Yeah. United passed on him. Sure...
Maybe he took Dortmund over United. Just a guess.
Great for Dortmund. He is just 26. A summers rest and he will be back at full strength.
He shat his cacks
Pull the trigger on Aymeric LaPorte. Bilbao sends us great footballers.
Hope we haven't lost out on our first choice but if we have good alternatives then...
But that is the problem with modern football. There's a disproportionate amount of weekly micro-analysis going on these days, and players can seemingly swing from world-class to dogturd status in the space of months, if common opinion is to be believed. Hummels is just out of form, as is the whole Dortmund side. Most players go through lean spells at some point in their career (even the great ones), but that does not diminish their overall quality. He has consistently been in the upper bracket of European defenders for the past 5 odd years - bar the current rough patch, is still kind of young, and has enough quality to bounce back. There's not a lot to suggest long term terminal decline with him.
Are we ever going to have a German in our first team?
I'm sure we'll sign someone, whether thats Hummels or another defender. He has been average at best this season and do seem to pick up injuries so who knows, he either wants to stay or United decided against him.Hummels(WC winner, world class for years with problems in one crazy season for club and team) or keep playing 2 young defenders who havent done anything bigger in football.
Yeah. United passed on him. Sure...
Maybe he took Dortmund over United. Just a guess.
Great for Dortmund. He is just 26. A summers rest and he will be back at full strength.
No firm decision has been made either way by the sound of it. Zorc running his mouth ?
That's shit, I really wanted him. Although, I've been told that he's not what he used to be so I guess I'm not that fussed. Spray your seeds elsewhere, Woodward!
Shame i was looking forward to him signing for us. The thought of him rejecting us never even crossed my mind.
Hummels(WC winner, world class for years with problems in one crazy season for club and team) or keep playing 2 young defenders who havent done anything bigger in football.
Yeah. United passed on him. Sure...
Maybe he took Dortmund over United. Just a guess.
Great for Dortmund. He is just 26. A summers rest and he will be back at full strength.
Surprised Bayern aren't in for him, after the CL humiliation, and the 'brilliant' transfer policy of weakening all Bundesliga rivals to make the league even more uncompetitive.
Oh - Kicker has (apart from the relegation fight) two stories on their cover tomorrow. Hummels staying in Dortmund - and that United tries to get Schweinsteiger... (and he just has a year contract left and right now decides what he does next. The club will let him do what he wants - Rummenigge already told. Sign a new contract like the others did already last year, stay another year or leave. You would get the Captain of the German team and the most successful WAG - Ana Ivanovic - the serbian media even told last week that they secretly married)
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Nothing's for sure... He didn't sign the contract yet and after that kind of season I wouldn't be surprised if he still wants to move anyway.
He will stay, like most Germans. Just playing with us.
42m? Don't think you can get him for anything less than release clause.
Yeah, the guy who denies everything in terms of transfers until the ink is dry under the contract is really known for making premature statements like that....
"Kicker" literally titles: "Hummels: He stays at Dortmund!". Thats as clear as it gets.
God knows, which party in the end stopped a potential deal. Maybe United was not ready to take the risk given the high fee and Hummels´ injury record. Maybe Hummels´ sees a brighter future under Tuchel. It is definitively curious that any transfer chatter about him in Germany stopped the moment Klopp announced his departure at the end of the season.
What I highly doubt is that United did not view him as suited enough in terms of performances and profile. The arguments about the pace of the EPL (Klopp´s system was faster than anything that exists in the EPL right now and the collective tactical movement of the Bundesliga towards highly concentrated pressing has basically closed the gap in terms of pace between both leagues) and Hummels inability to play in high defense lines (out of all halfway realistic options he was the one with the most experience in this kind of setup) certainly don´t hold much ground.
I don't think he'll be at Dortmund next year. Him and Gundogan will leave.
Owen Hargreaves knows the Bundesliga inside out and he said a while back that Hummels would be too slow and not pyhsical enough for the premier league and I've always felt he might have a point. There's every chance that Hummels could have struggled in the Premier League with the pace and physicality of it all in the same way other top top players hailed as world beaters struggled at the very top in the premier league who beforehand were tipped to be the player of the season such as Ozil, Mata, Di Maria, Veron, Berbatov, Arshavin, Blanc, Ballack, Jesus Navas, Jovetic, Oscar, Wilshire, Christian Eriksen, Falcao, etc
Perhaps Hummles already knows his limitations and felt his reputation might take a beating in Manchester. There's no doubt that when you have players in an International team around like Lahm, Boateng and Schweinsteiger around you then your job is made a lot easier
Perhaps Hummles already knows his limitations and felt his reputation might take a beating in Manchester. There's no doubt that when you have players in an International team around like Lahm, Boateng and Schweinsteiger around you then your job is made a lot easier
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Great news
He'd have been destroyed in the PL. Genuinely delighted about this.
He'd have been destroyed in the PL. Genuinely delighted about this.
FFS, there are players in there who played well in this league, Mata for example
Looks like we dodged a bullet with this one, thank god.
It is Euros, we got the money
Not saying you don't have. I meant that it doesn't make sense, definitely not worth that much.
What. There are plenty of players there who did well in this league.
You just want him for yourself, admit it
I like him, think he will do well. He isnt worth the money now, but if he improves like expected, could be worth every penny. Dont think we are in for him.
For sure but the point I was making is that they all at some point were tipped to make a frightening impact when in reality many of them were either poor or pretty decent without setting the world on fire by any means....and there's definitely a chance Hummels might have turned out to be decent without being anything close to Vidic or Ferdinand due to lack of pace and Dynamism
He's shite anyway