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Two years? That would include most of the 2011/2012 season, the one, when he was overall Dortmund´s best player, because he was actually the only player who played on top level the whole season, showing very good consistency. You could count the number of glaring mistakes on one hand in over 40 games.
You wanna know, why no such questions were asked last season? Because everyone who followed his career up to this point knew what was happening: He had an off season, especially in the league meaning he performed far under his normal level. The four seasons prior to that ranged from good (2008/2009;2009/2010) to great (2010/2011) to amazing (the above mentioned one).
If he would have generally bad positioning, a player with only average speed as him would normally need to resort to a lot of (tactical) fouls to cover up the positioning, right? Problem is, that he is probably the top level CB with the least amounts of fouls, yellow and red cards. In fact, until the last league game vs. Gladbach, when he needed to try a risk tackle because his teammates screwed up, he was never sent off by the referee in his career. Hell, he did not even receive a ban because of bookings before.
Nobody can tell me, that you can become such a high rated CB (be it by fan opinion, the press or experts), if you have bad positioning and be so fair at the same time.
It would also not explain, why his performance in this season at club level was absolutely fine so far. He had one bad half vs. Frankfurt, when he was rightfully subbed off at half time, but otherwise his season is rock solid. He is even the CB with the best tackling stat of the whole league. If he would be so error prone as suggested he would not even start, because they have a class CB, the Greek International Sokratis, on the bench.
But be free to correct me on this and show me lets say five scenes of this season, when he displayed bad positioning. Should be easy, given that he played over 1000 minutes so far for Dortmund and seemingly has mistakes in most of his games.
I meant 2012/2013, and I'll talk about this season later on. Even in his best season, Hummels still made positional mistakes - that is to be expected because he was still maturing. Away from that, when it has come to the massive games in European fixtures, he's made some catastrophic mistakes. He had about two good games in Euro 2012 and then turned to mediocre vs. Italy. He's a player than can be naive and has shown his naive side frequently since Borussia Dortmund last won the league.
I see "tactical fouling" as an irrelevant factor in this debate. This is a poor point IMO because Hummels' mistakes often lead him too far astray to actually make any tactical fouls, so that point doesn't make sense when you look at it this way. See this, for example:
In Europe, Hummels has been an utter disaster. Just before I go on, I wasn't really criticising him for this season because it's early on, but if you want me to dig out an example - I'll also post examples last season - then look at the first video below. Hummels leaves his man - for the first goal. At one point, he was next to him, but then he loses focus and Schmelzer has to go out and attack the ball. In the second video, Hummels isn't quick enough to block the cross and Benzema scores - if you want, you can say he's partially responsible. For the second goal, he doesn't connect well to clear away the cross... and again, Real Madrid scores. In the same match, he made a couple of errors in the first half, one of which led to Ozil with a one-on-one. And in the Champions League final, he was a disaster. Most of Bayern Munich's attacks came down his side. There are more positional calamities I can post, but I don't want to spend my time cutting clips just to prove a point.
In your third last paragraph, you say that he couldn't have become such a talked about centre-back if he had bad positioning. Just to clarify, I did not say Hummels is mediocre, but what I did allude to is his poor positioning these days. You can become a highly rated centre-back, but still have positional errors. I also don't like how you're telling me to show you the positional errors he's made this season, which I didn't really argue. If you want it that way, I can give you torrents and if you don't let your bias dictate the outcome, then you will see that he's also made some poor errors this season.
Hummels is a very good centre-back, but at the moment, he is nowhere near the best or Europe's elite list. His fall has been abrupt and he looks off the pace, but that does not mean he's average, or whatever. It means that he's not the finished product.