Mats Hummels

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If they don't make the Champions League this year (big if obviously), surely there's a big chance he will want to move next year. It would be either us or Real I imagine as Barca have the transfer ban and I doubt he would go to Munich.. Maybe Chelsea would want him?

Or perhaps his loyalty will mean he doesn't want to appear to be abandoning a "sinking ship"
 
I think he'll leave next Summer personally. It seems we were under the impression he might be more available than Dortmund and Klopp make out this Summer hence our pursuit of him.
 
Has he always been as injury prone as he has been since last season? Last thing we need is another injury prone center back, as good as a fit Hummels can be. Half of our defensive problems come from the fact that we have not been able to field a consistent back four for the last three-four seasons.
 
Carl said:
I think he'll leave next Summer personally. It seems we were under the impression he might be more available than Dortmund and Klopp make out this Summer hence our pursuit of him.
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It might be like Fabregas transfer where everyone was sure it could not happen last year only for him to move the next year, for a modest fee when you consider the calibre of player too. Dortmund have been terrible this season, it's going to be interesting to see how they react to an abysmal start. I think Klopp is going to put all his eggs in one basket and go after Champions League win.
 
MrMarcello said:
Rumors the club has given up on Hummels and feel they can better tempt Subotic.
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I see the plan... when Subotic turns us down we are on to Ginther then sokratis and eventually we might end up with sarr?

In fairness though they do have a lot of strength at CB so unless Ginther plays in midfield (which he may well do) one of them might leave if they are not getting enough games
 
Kag said:
He seems to be injured just as much as Smalling, Jones and Evans yet he's the supposed answer to our apparent issues? Hummels is very good but if he can't stay fit then he isn't even worthy of discussion.
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90% of the posters here probably haven't seen him play more than 10 times. We should move on
 
Looking a fair bit of a liability so far this season in a more unsettled Dortmund team. For the fees that get touted for him leaves me lot unconvinced.
 
FromTheBench said:
Looking a fair bit of a liability so far this season in a more unsettled Dortmund team. For the fees that get touted for him leaves me lot unconvinced.
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There isn't anyone else available though that ticks the box of being world class?
 
He struggles at the moment just like his team, but he hasnt lost his class, just his form. Under normal circumstances, he still is one of the best defenders around.
 
izec said:
He struggles at the moment just like his team, but he hasnt lost his class, just his form. Under normal circumstances, he still is one of the best defenders around.
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Totally agree, my only concern is his injury record over the last 3 years, I don't we should be looking at another injury prone defender. Even though he currently is 1 of the best CB in the world when in form, it think we should look at someone more reliable or give our current injury prone defenders some consistent game time to find their feet.
 
wiz4231 said:
Totally agree, my only concern is his injury record over the last 3 years, I don't we should be looking at another injury prone defender. Even though he currently is 1 of the best CB in the world when in form, it think we should look at someone more reliable or give our current injury prone defenders some consistent game time to find their feet.
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Yep, his injury record worries me too.
 
He had games like this before. Usually when he plays without being fully fit.

The main reason why I don't think we should go for him is not his quality though, which he has like almost no other CB in the world but his injury proneness over the last 2-3 seasons. We can't afford having another CB that is injured 50% of the time no matter how good he is. We need someone we can rely for 50+ games a season.
 
Hummels strikes me as the latest name the herd mentality posters are gravitating towards as a WC defender who can solve our problems. He strikes me as a good player but never as good as some on here have suggested.
 
Raoul said:
Hummels strikes me as the latest name the herd mentality posters are gravitating towards as a WC defender who can solve our problems. He strikes me as a good player but never as good as some on here have suggested.
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Completely agree. From what I've seen, his ability doesn't match the hype.
 
Raoul said:
Hummels strikes me as the latest name the herd mentality posters are gravitating towards as a WC defender who can solve our problems. He strikes me as a good player but never as good as some on here have suggested.
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Agreed, although from what I have seen of him (not a major amount) I think he has the potential to be a proper world class player for a top team, he still has time on his side.
 
Raoul said:
Hummels strikes me as the latest name the herd mentality posters are gravitating towards as a WC defender who can solve our problems. He strikes me as a good player but never as good as some on here have suggested.
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That's because he has an attractive style, he is good on the ball and good defensively, so people consider that he is WC. It's the same with Dante who is a liability but no one seems to see that.
 
Dante played a fantastic season, when Bayern won the treble and is declining. His biggest motivation was to play for the Selecao in Brazil. He is lacking the necessary determination to continue on a very high level. He is still a good player, but no bayern fan denies, that he is becoming be a liability.

Hummels is sometimes trying too much instead of playing it save. At his very best, he can pull that off and is worldclass. But if he is just slightly off, he produces too many feck ups.
 
PedroMendez said:
Dante played a fantastic season, when Bayern won the treble and is declining. His biggest motivation was to play for the Selecao in Brazil. He is lacking the necessary determination to continue on a very high level. He is still a good player, but no bayern fan denies, that he is becoming be a liability.

Hummels is sometimes trying too much instead of playing it save. At his very best, he can pull that off and is worldclass. But if he is just slightly off, he produces too many feck ups.
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That's exactly what i think. Except that to be considered World Class you need consistency, you need to always be at your best.
 
How has Benatia started the season? He was who I would've really preferred over Hummels.
 
DWelbz19 said:
How has Benatia started the season? He was who I would've really preferred over Hummels.
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Too early to say really, he only featured in 2 Bundesliga and 2 Champions League games so far.
 
I cant bealive this guy is not yet 26. I thought he was approaching 29. Arsenal are strongly linked with him(dubious source not withstanding) and for only 32m. I can imagine the German connection gives the gunners an edge.
 
Yorkeontop said:
I cant bealive this guy is not yet 26. I thought he was approaching 29. Arsenal are strongly linked with him(dubious source not withstanding) and for only 32m. I can imagine the German connection gives the gunners an edge.
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He's not moving for at least 2 years. It's that simple.
 
Pexbo said:
He's not moving for at least 2 years. It's that simple.
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And you know this how exactly? Considering the position Dortmund are in at the moment and the fact that all he has any chance of winning there for the foreseeable future is a domestic cup, I'll be very surprised if he is still there next season.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Did Hummels tell you that? You obviously must know him personally if you're going to say things like that.
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Redo91 said:
And you know this how exactly? Considering the position Dortmund are in at the moment and the fact that all he has any chance of winning there for the foreseeable future is a domestic cup, I'll be very surprised if he is still there next season.
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Mats Hummels is flattered to be attracting interest from across Europe but has no intention of leaving Borussia Dortmund.


The World Cup-winning defender has been heavily linked with the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester United.

Hummels acknowledges that the opportunities are there if he chooses to quit his homeland and take on a new challenge abroad, but he is enjoying his football in Germany and is prepared to continue ignoring the rumours and endless talk of big-money moves.

For now, Hummels is eager to taste further success with 2012 German champions Dortmund, with a number of his colleagues having also committed to the club amid intense speculation regarding their future.

He said: “People often speak about the Dortmund ‘project’ in that context but I don’t really like that word.

“It’s too unemotional and sounds so technical. I’ve been here for six and a half years and it’s simply more exciting and more difficult to win trophies as an underdog.

“Everybody can win things with 25 superstars in the squad. At BVB, every single player has more responsibility but also more opportunity. It’s difficult to win trophies with Dortmund but it’s always possible. And when it happens, the feeling is simply indescribable.

“When we won the championship for a second time in 2012, each one of us could have gone wherever we wanted. But I thought: ‘No, what we have here is something truly unique.’

“I’m happy I felt this way. You don’t often find a team where people are really friends with each other. If you’ve got the chance to play at such a high level with your mates you have to hold on to that for as long as possible.”
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The guy absolutely loves it there and they are losing Reus next summer. There is zero chance they will sell two stars in one summer and zero chance he would force a move through.


Look at Reus, we offered big money earlier this summer and they said no and were happy to keep him for another year and just take the release fee.


He's not going anywhere.
 
Raoul said:
Hummels strikes me as the latest name the herd mentality posters are gravitating towards as a WC defender who can solve our problems. He strikes me as a good player but never as good as some on here have suggested.
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He is 25 and has been world class for some time now. He is still learning so because every defender is till his late 20s.
I and you would have trouble getting more then 5 names who are better at their best. He had 2 major injuries, one last year and one this summer.
Nothing major for a defender of his age.
He will be one of the best for some time. He is sold on the Dortmund project too. And the crazy last 6 weeks aside(where they made big progress in the CL) the club is doing a worldclass job for years.
Debt free now and just made 140 million from stock deals.
IF Dortmund reach the CL this season he should stay.
 
Left footed, isn't he? Which means even if we got him he'd be replacing the least injury prone of our CBs and would still leave us stuck alternating between whichever of Evans, Smalling and Jones are fit at any given moment.
 
sullydnl said:
Left footed, isn't he? Which means even if we got him he'd be replacing the least injury prone of our CBs and would still leave us stuck alternating between whichever of Evans, Smalling and Jones are fit at any given moment.
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He is right footed.
 
IceDevil said:
What about Howedes or Subotic? They are good and cheaper than Mats.
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Subotic is good, but not as good as Hummels. Howedes isn't even near.

Hummels is a class player and despite what Raoul said, he has been appreciated here long before the World Cup. If we can sign him, we should do that.
 
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