Woody. Do your thing (properly)
Mata | Mourinho says it's just a Mata of time
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Insane. Insande for Chelsea to let him go and insane for us, City and every other top club who doesn't buy him.
Chelsea will probably have the same approach as us with Rooney. Not letting him go to a Premier League rival.
Mourinho though, what an absolute idiot if he lets him go.
It would be such a shame to let such a talented player and one of the few generally nice guys at Chelsea leave this country, but Iit would weaken Chelsea massively.
If he goes to some other club and we aren't even placing a bid I think my mild befuddlement about our transfer business in this summer will turn into a full blown depression and I will end up on the muppet suicide watch list. Don't do this to me Woody and Moyes, why are you so cruel. 
I don't think even Mourinho will have something to say when Roman will start his ego trip.
What exactly could Mourinho have against Mata personally? He's never played under him.
If he goes to some other club and we aren't even placing a bid I think my mild befuddlement about our transfer business in this summer will turn into a full blown depression and I will end up on the muppet suicide watch list. Don't do this to me Woody and Moyes, why are you so cruel.
After refusing to sell Rooney for the entire summer, you think they would accept a final day bid from us?
Its not personal. He just wants a pacy attack and doesnt feel Mata cuts it in that regard. Retarded but not personal.
Yeah I know it's madness. I mean hell forbid we traded an unsatisfied striker/medicore midfielder against a world class midfielder that we could actually need. But I guess that deal would have made too much sense for both sides to happen or Moyes was just scared of selling Rooney to one of our biggest rivals even if he got Mata in return.
We're better off not giving Rooney to Chelsea, especially if they sell Mata to somewhere outside the Premier League.
No fecking chance whatsoever, maybe shouldve done the Rooney for him and cash, let our young strikers get some game time and put the rest of the money into the fellaini deal. Negative spend summer, improve our squad and lower the quality of Chelsea's.
Might be personal though if he is friends with Ramos and Casillas I wouldn't put it past Mourinho to be paranoid enough to suspect him of working against him like his two Spanish pals did but of course that's just a very wild guess and what you said is probably more likely even though you never know with Mou.
I hope he goes, one of their best players.
Its world cup year, so can't see Mata being too keen on sitting on the bench. He'll be gone.
Crazy of Chelsea to sell Mata. Guy's an incredible player.
Might be personal though if he is friends with Ramos and Casillas I wouldn't put it past Mourinho to be paranoid enough to suspect him of working against him like his two Spanish pals did but of course that's just a very wild guess and what you said is probably more likely even though you never know with Mou.
Naah too far fetched. It'd be great for us though if he moves, Chelsea's best player and comfortably at that. I just wish he doesnt go to PSG though, it'd be a waste.
Well of course selling them Rooney if Mata doesn't come in return is stupid but that's not what I was saying. I was just saying that a trade would have made sense, we would have gotten a creative midfielder and they would have gotten their number one striker. Now we have a sulking Rooney and Mata might end up in France. Next summer then we will have the same problems with Rooney and the fact that he is entering the last year of his contract which means we either sell him for a fairly low price or keep him until the end of his contract, risk him being even more angry and confused and get no money at all for him.
United should make a cheeky ~25M bid.
Havent seen enough of De Bruyne but Oscar looks faster than Mata even though he isnt rapid at all.
I'm going by what Mourinho said though and I dont see how it could be personal. Its still very weird though.
Might be personal though if he is friends with Ramos and Casillas I wouldn't put it past Mourinho to be paranoid enough to suspect him of working against him like his two Spanish pals did but of course that's just a very wild guess and what you said is probably more likely even though you never know with Mou.
This is what Indykaila just said on twitter....
Are you Indykaila?
No, I understand and disagree.
Selling Rooney to Chelsea would have meant solving the biggest problem of one of our main rivals. That's not good. If we can't convince him to change his mind and sign a new contract - well, there's still a chance that next year we can sell him somewhere else, somewhere outside the Premier League. In the meantime, he seemed motivated enough against Chelsea.
So if Chelsea don't want Mata anyway and want rid of him then we should not help them by also solving their biggest problem in the process. I'd love Mata here but if they won't have neither Mata nor Rooney that's great for us. Better than us signing Mata and Chelsea getting Rooney.
Hehe nope. I don't even have a twitter account and unless someone links me something interesting posted on there I'm staying away from it as far as possible, this place does my head in.
When do you suppose they had this falling out then? It was reported very early in the summer that he wasn't viewed as a guaranteed first 11 player and Mourinho was even prepared to listen to offers to raise transfer funds.
Now isn't the time to be cheeky.
I agree - he simply doesn't fit into the system - a system which has borught Mourinho a lot of success, and one which he clearly isn't going to change.
Okay I can understand that concept but I have never been a big fan of that attitude. The main thing one should look for is to strengthen the own team and make your own concept work with the best players you can get because let's face it sooner if they aren't getting Rooney they will most likely get a great striker from elsewhere. Depending on how good Eto'o still is and how Lukaku comes along this might have happened anyway. The only thing we can essentially hope for in that regard is that the Chelsea curse still works and all of their strikers that aren't named Drogba turn to shit.
But yea I see that Moyes might have seen it as a bad move to sell one of our best players to a rival in his first transfer period so I can totally understand why he kept him.
If he goes to PSG, how about putting in a bid for Pastore ?
Chelsea and Real are a joke if they let Mata and Özil go.
Seriously, if he's available, we should just make a bid for the heck of it. He's one of the few players in the world that you should just go for if he's available, regardless of who you have in the team.
We should try a 30m bid. He's my favourite united-rival player.
No way Mourinho would sell him to us.
Rumours that Liverpool are after him. That seems quite insane.
They not according to Ben Smith.
Only if he goes there. Makes perfect sense for Liverpool to try. They don't really have a hope imho but hey, it's deadline day.
Mata would have his pick of clubs in the CL who'll go for him if he's available on a reasonable fee, what makes them think he'll step that low to sign for them?
If we manage to get Mata and Herrera it would be really a window worth waiting. The afro chap would be a bonus as well.
Nothing to suggest we're after him though is there?
Looks like he'll be going to PSG - shame for the league, arguably the best player.
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