Boring, DVB style transfer at 40m. At 50+ it feels like a criminal waste of money. But hey ho, what do I know.
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So Varane moves to number 4 to free up the 19 shirt for Mountie boy…..
I think we need to just forget about how anyone does in the England team. No one looks particularly good.It's not a signing that excites me I'll be honest.
He's underwhelmed me every time he's played for England, not sure what he really does. He had some very good seasons for Chelsea though before this year.
Some of the meltdowns on here though about it are ridiculous
Pretty much this. Add on the fact that he doesn’t have a clear fit in our side and yeah I’m pissed off. But I also feel like Ten Hag deserves blame as it seems in his time here that he finds obsessions with certain players and is never able to move on to other targets. And I don’t like the pattern of every signing/target of his seemingly being influenced by the fact that they played against Ten Hag in the Dutch league.
Antony
De Jong
Timber (and then Martinez)
Eriksen
Dumfries
Gakpo
Mount
Weghorst
Malacia
Starting to see a pattern here
He's been Chelsea's best player in 2 out of the last 3 PL seasons. This year I don't think they have had any stand out player either tbf.
Way people are cracking on is like we are signing Jonjo Shelvey. It's a bit silly.
I'm not even a massive fan of Mount but other than being British and being able to play on more than one position, what does he have in common with O'Shea?
I think every regular attacking player has looked better in the England team than Mount.
I'm not even saying that particularly matters, if he was crap for England and great for Utd I wouldn't be too bothered.
“exotic name” card in 2023, and “bloody foreigners” type posts from that other guy, get in the bin
Says you. If he's the managers number one target then I'd argue that he cleary does fit.
He'll replace Eriksen in the first team I'm guessing.
O’Shea is Irish, not British.
This is shaping up like the summer we signed Maguire, AWB and Dan James.
Mason Mount, Rabiot and a shit striker is my summer of nightmares.
Mason Mount, Rabiot and a shit striker is my summer of nightmares.
Yes but you clearly seem unable to form an opinion of your own so it doesn’t really matter anyways.
I know a Celtic fan that cried when Liam miller left.
Incredibly irrelevant to the point.
And you clearly have some sort of weird agenda
Aye its not like we've signed players before who haven't fit the team
Yeah it could just be because he's "one of their own" but this is more than one fan and as someone who doesn't watch Chelsea that often the fact that so many of their fans seem to rate him watching every week whilst we don't is a bit different to one bloke you knew 2 decades ago.
He's not a No.8 IMO. He's clearly at his best in the attacking midfield zones whether that's centrally or out wide.
I expect us to sign another CM that has more defensive qualities.
I think Mount will start off as a rotation player as his role is occupied by Bruno. Wouldn't be surprised to see him force himself into the team somewhere though.
I expect us to sign another CM that has more defensive qualities.
I think Mount will start off as a rotation player as his role is occupied by Bruno. Wouldn't be surprised to see him force himself into the team somewhere though.
Maguire looks good for England to be fair
Sancho was the last managers number one target
Pogba was Mourinhos number one target
Both a terrible fit for us.
For what it's worth I think mount is decent. But I take issue with your narrow minded attitude of Ten Hag is right, everyone else is wrong. Obviously managers get things wrong
I didn't say that
I'd have preferred him than that 3 legged giraffe we borrowed from a Turkish zoo.
The point is that that's where people think our #8s will play in the set-up being proposed.
I just wonder why we are funding Chelsea's summer window?
Tbf if we are going to have any bloody hope left we have to hope that Ten Hag has a better vision than Jose, Ole Ragnick or anyone else that's followed Sir Alex.
More like the obvious that the manager who knows much more what he actually needs for his own tactics than random Caftards. Managers do get wrong, but you would think we are signing random League 1 player by reading ridiculous posts on here.
What’s the most everyone would be happy to pay to consider it a good deal?
id say 40m
id say 40m
40-50 and add ons
When the guy is not doing enough to be a part of the solution in that Chelsea team, that is a serious red flag.
Besides, a lot of people, including myself, have had enough with overpaying for a very overrated turd (Maguire) just because he is English. If filling the homegrown quota matters, then find a way to get them through the academy as it would cost nothing other than the basic wages.
This isn't a ten Hag signing imo but rather a signing that they've decided collectively to bring in to develop the play style ten Hag wants to implement.
This move won't stop us signing a deep lying midfielder. Mount and Bruno if paired as interiors in a 3 man midfield with Casemiro as the pivot, can potentially work. And it can work due to the fullbacks inverting and creating a box shape. I think we'll see that at times next season with the defensive line being higher. Erik ten Hag is going to create a 325 shape in possession imo.
So the control in possession has to come from the GK, CBs, deeper mids and fullbacks. With the forwards having to control the game by defending well from the front. And those players will be the two advanced 8s, wide forwards and striker, with the players behind them in close proximity closing off the space and cutting off the passing lanes between the lines.
We'll sign more players and I think we'll sign a deep-lying midfielder as well. But something like the below shape in possession is what I believe ten Hag is aiming for.
If the left side is active in possession, then Timber forms part of the back 3 and Shaw inverts into midfield.
-----------------------Sesko-------------------
--Rashford------Bruno------Mount-----Antony---
-----------Casemiro-------Timber-------------
------Shaw------Martinez--------Varane---------
----------------Costa/Verbruggen------------
The team definitely requires a deep lying midfielder as well. And I can see a deeper lying midfielder being bought which will provide even more tactical flexibility rather than the tactical predictability we see see right now.
This move won't stop us signing a deep lying midfielder. Mount and Bruno if paired as interiors in a 3 man midfield with Casemiro as the pivot, can potentially work. And it can work due to the fullbacks inverting and creating a box shape. I think we'll see that at times next season with the defensive line being higher. Erik ten Hag is going to create a 325 shape in possession imo.
So the control in possession has to come from the GK, CBs, deeper mids and fullbacks. With the forwards having to control the game by defending well from the front. And those players will be the two advanced 8s, wide forwards and striker, with the players behind them in close proximity closing off the space and cutting off the passing lanes between the lines.
We'll sign more players and I think we'll sign a deep-lying midfielder as well. But something like the below shape in possession is what I believe ten Hag is aiming for.
If the left side is active in possession, then Timber forms part of the back 3 and Shaw inverts into midfield.
-----------------------Sesko-------------------
--Rashford------Bruno------Mount-----Antony---
-----------Casemiro-------Timber-------------
------Shaw------Martinez--------Varane---------
----------------Costa/Verbruggen------------
The team definitely requires a deep lying midfielder as well. And I can see a deeper lying midfielder being bought which will provide even more tactical flexibility rather than the tactical predictability we see see right now.
Don't think that's true. He's been injured/frozen out due to hit contract situation. Also Chelsea has had little to play for for a while now.
Worth noting that Chelse/Poch both want to keep him.
Poch to work his charm and convince him to stay, hopefully.
As a coach, yes (although there are mixed messages in terms of improving possession retention and transitioning through proper interplay as opposed to Bruno-ball or Licha finding a long pass from deep). But all the signs are that he needs an authoritative, high-grade DOF to push against him both in terms of signings and in terms of introducing the very best academy prospects to develop them and minimize first team squad exhaustion through under-rotating. Bringing in someone like that, as much as signing a Caicedo or similar to both dynamize and solidify midfield, should be top of priorities for new owner...
Yeah but at the same time Caicedo could come in and be a complete flop and Mount could come in and run our midfield on the way to a title. I've just been around long enough to know that our opinions are all so flippant and often wrong. I'm not saying you shouldn't have your opinion, I'm just saying that right now I respect Ten Hag's a hell of a lot more.
John o Shea isn’t British, try and keep up chap.
If ETH wants him - he will be a great signing.
Seems to have a great attitude as well.
Seems to have a great attitude as well.
If that's our plan, I'm a fan of that set-up.
You prefer someone of Sesko's profile over Kane because of his increased mobility + age?
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