Liverpool trusted Klopps opinion last summer too, worked out terribly for them. Blindly trusting a managers talent ID is an awful transfer strategy. I didn’t mind it last summer because we needed players familiar with ETH’s style and mentality. But shit has to come to an end at some point, especially when the players he’s enamored with cost a bomb relatively
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Liverpool trusted Klopps opinion last summer too, worked out terribly for them. Blindly trusting a managers talent ID is an awful transfer strategy. I didn’t mind it last summer because we needed players familiar with ETH’s style and mentality. But shit has to come to an end at some point, especially when the players he’s enamored with cost a bomb relatively
Think he's a managers player. Type of player that can follow out instructions to a tee, but that doesn't translate well to fans. Players like that look totally uninspiring and average to fans but can be vital in certain systems.
At least we’ll get to see him in some of our tour matches so we can figure out what on earth he’s being asked to do
Still think it's very foolish to give ETH full authority on transfers.
There should be a committee for that.
Hopefully Mount is a success. Too much smoke in this for him not to be signed.
There should be a committee for that.
Hopefully Mount is a success. Too much smoke in this for him not to be signed.
But how do you know Mount won't fit Ten Hag's way of playing? He wants him for a reason, no?
Trust me, I'd rather have Frenkie de Jong because it fits more with how I personally want United to play, but we're a terribly run club so we got to trust Ten Hag now as he's the only manager of all the clowns we've had over the years that seems to have an actual plan.
This guy can't even get into that poor Chelsea side. They were playing connor fking Gallagher over him ffs. For that quoted price, its a poor deal for a rotation option. Rather we go all in for Caicedo.
He can be a great manager while still being a mediocre footballing director. He shouldn’t have to do both though. Also our other arguable home run signing wasn’t even his choice in Casemiro.
If he's the manager's number one target I don't really care if you like him or not to be honest. I'm willing to trust him, he's earned that.
Foreign fans just hate English players. Already been reading the comments on twitter and YouTube. It's full of English hating Utd fans.
Thankfully most of these fans know less than nothing about football.
There is.
Have to laugh at the people saying he's a squad option. We're trying to get a deal done before the season has even finished, suggesting we're pursuiting him feverently.
Add in that he's fancied him since his ajax days. But given all this, people on the caf think he's going to be a squad option.
ETH obviously sees a place for him in our side and hes likely to play a lot of games for us if he should sign.
It's hardly a signing to get pulses racing I must admit, but at the same time, if ETH thinks he fits, let's give him a go.
Add in that he's fancied him since his ajax days. But given all this, people on the caf think he's going to be a squad option.
ETH obviously sees a place for him in our side and hes likely to play a lot of games for us if he should sign.
It's hardly a signing to get pulses racing I must admit, but at the same time, if ETH thinks he fits, let's give him a go.
You know these opinions are based off of people watching him playing in the very same league as our favorite club for years right?
They're not just out of the blue.
Players like Rice, Kane, James and Saka are rated highly on here even while playing for England so that's really not the hang up here with most.
Which would be very good short term solution.
Think this is an intelligent signing (assuming it’s not a ridiculous fee), very SAF like signing.
Is this a home grown quota singing maybe?
Of the 8 players registered this year only:
Shaw, AwB, Rashford, Sancho, Bishop are likely to be here next year with: Ronaldo gone and Williams, Tuanzebe, Mctominay who could all go.
Source:
https://www.90min.com/posts/man-utd-confirm-25-player-premier-league-squad-for-2022-23-season/amp
Of the 8 players registered this year only:
Shaw, AwB, Rashford, Sancho, Bishop are likely to be here next year with: Ronaldo gone and Williams, Tuanzebe, Mctominay who could all go.
Source:
https://www.90min.com/posts/man-utd-confirm-25-player-premier-league-squad-for-2022-23-season/amp
Have Weghorst and Antony have been amazing? No! Actually quite the opposite.
Nationality doesn't come into it. Signing the right player is all that matters.
We've signed some world class English players over the years too. Rio, Carrick and Rooney to name but a few.
If we can get him for 50m while shifting McTominay for 30m, that's good business.
75m+ is obscene though.
75m+ is obscene though.
It seems like such a strange situation as far as reception to the move goes.
The lad is at an age where he's just coming into his prime, and he's won Chelsea's player of the year as many time as Zola and Terry and more than Drogba... yet most United fans don't want him and most Chelsea fans don't seem arsed if he leaves.
The lad is at an age where he's just coming into his prime, and he's won Chelsea's player of the year as many time as Zola and Terry and more than Drogba... yet most United fans don't want him and most Chelsea fans don't seem arsed if he leaves.
Dare I say it. MasON? 
While I agree with you, Rooney and Rio were signed almost 20 years ago.
Because I’ve watched Mount countless times over the past three years for both Chelsea and England, as well as my own team every game this past year and understand what we lack and what Mount brings to the table. It’s also becoming a pattern that we just blindly go after players that Ten Hag played with /against in the Dutch league which is ridiculous. And on top of that, again, it’s terrible business. And we should look to be as efficient as possible especially considering our limited budget going into the summer.
I’ve even said I’m fine with signing Mount if it was for decent wages and under 40m IF we buy a proper CM/CDM as well. But we are seemingly making him a top target and are willing to shell out a huge fee for a player that not only doesn’t have a clear fit, but just came off a crap season and only has a year left with his current club.
We are bailing Chelsea out and seem happy to do so. It’s idiotic
Struggle to comprehend how it would have been worse than Weghorst from a sporting perspective.
It is not blindly by any means, but I do trust Ten Hag much more on what players he needs for his playstyle than random Caftards thinking they know better what he needs than himself, that's for sure.
I don’t think anyone is doubting he can be a useful squad player, but to pay over £50 million for the English John O’Shea is ridiculous. Chelsea will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Yes, I know, but that doesn't make their opinion any less dumb.
I've seen plenty of posters calling Kane overrated and "not really that good" lately too. Same with Rice. He is highly rated by some, and called clown by some. Personally I rate all of the players you listed very highly.
I think Mount, or any other Chelsea player for that matter, don't exactly benefit from switching managers or systems as often as they do. I reckon he'll do great if he comes here and plays under Ten Hag.
It's good you're not going over the top with it at least.
Name checks out
You don't need to field 11 super stars to win something, but this is underwhelming.
When Casemiro gets suspended or injured, we are again gonna get fecked like this season. And he is not getting younger either.
Just cough up a bit more and bring in Caicedo.
When Casemiro gets suspended or injured, we are again gonna get fecked like this season. And he is not getting younger either.
Just cough up a bit more and bring in Caicedo.
I’m not overly excited by him to be honest. But, I think it comes down to how much we trust ETH, so if he wants him I hope he gets him.
Managers are not infallible. Trusting summer recruitment solely/mostly to them doesn't seem a sustainable model.
#PanicBuy #Embarrasing
I think critics of this transfer are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
You're imagining things.
This might be the worst post in this thread so far.
So what. The point was our recent track record which is totally irrelevant. Maybe we have just been awful at identifying them.
I think some of our younger and incredibly childish fans have been scarred for life with Maguire. They automatically think any English player is going to fail now.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
Well no shite, this is a discussion thread but sure go ahead and trust Erik as we get possessed 80/20 by Arsenal and I have to read 5 threads complaining about Mount and us not being able to control games.
Again, blindly trusting managers is stupidity even if they are the best.
Great point.
Then he went to Chelsea and stepped up.
So what's to say he won't do the same here.
Some of the replies here are unbelievable!!
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