The only saving grace I think here is that, if we are willing to spend £50-£60m on Mount, that must mean we have upwards of £200m to spend this summer. I just can’t believe we’d otherwise be prepared to pay that cost.
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We spent £85 million on Antony without buying a striker, and £75 million on Sancho without buying a defensive midfielder, I wouldn't be too sure.
Unless we add someone like Rabiot we will have to keep one of the McFred.
50m each on a GK, CM and CF makes sense. Rabiot on a free. 80m or so in sales.
Thats interesting, I thought Chelea fans were overwhelming big fans of his whilst everyone wondered if he's any good or not? Fans aside, his managers have seemingly all been huge fans of his - which says something I guess.
I certainly haven't spent years slagging him off whenever I've seen him in an England shirt, no sir.
Interesting this. Wasn't Mount Chelsea fans player of the year in 21 and 22? The season Chelsea won the CL, didnt Mount get Fans player of the year? I guess you are talking about the minority fans.
Mirror suggesting that the we might have agreed a fee. Probably bollocks being the Mirror though.
Most Chelsea fans love Mount. Time travel to any game he's ever played for us and it's nothing but love.
There's some Twitter and Reddit people who don't like him but they obviously don't count.
I don't care of we get 150 million for him. I want him to stay and sign an extension.
Yeah there are a lot of loud idiots online - and it's easy to see why he doesn't appeal to them in that he's not flashy, plastic fans don't have the attachment to players from our academy, and the reality is he's not the type to single-handedly seize a game by the scruff of the neck. All that said, he's still an amazing player and I'm gutted to lose him.
Exactly, he was the face of Chelsea for the last few years, obviously the reddit and twitter fans have memory losses and only the last performance matters.
He was really good for those couple years on / off the ball and I am sure he scored some really important goals.
Obviously, because he is English as well, he will get more hate from certain people, to my mind he is a very efficient footballer.
I likened him to Donny but a more physical player which is why he works in the PL, compare the love Donny got when he was not played to Mount online. It will show you that its because he is English.
Apparently £200K a week too
I'm not convinced he'll be a shit signing but we all know that we desperately need a quality striker to lead the line and the good ones do not come cheap. Why spunk money on a position which isn't as pressing as the striker position?
Mount may not be the glamour player but there is a reason why managers rate him and like him, he is an efficient footballer. He is one of the best off the ball, which every team needs.
You cant have a team with players who are skillfull, you need runners off the ball, which Mount excels at, I have seen him run and take touches that set other players. We see alot of times where you attack a team and all the forward players want the ball to feet, Mount will make runs in behind and bring people into play.
Yep, 100%. He's not a floor-raiser, he's a ceiling-raiser. If he's the best player in the team, the team is probably not going to be very good. But in a side that knows how they want to play, Mount is a tremendous asset.
I also think this is why he has struggled with England at times - even the best international sides are always more individualistic, and counting on someone like Southgate to come up with tactically nuanced approaches is a fool's errand especially.
When I say divisive, I mean strictly when it comes to online discourse. He’s a much loved player among match going fans and I don’t personally know anyone in real life who dislikes him or doesn’t rate him. But online houses a huge portion of the fanbase too, of the non-match going variety and there the discourse around Mount is much more toxic and divisive.
Yes he did win back to back club POTY which probably points to his naysayers being a loud minority but they are an extremely loud, large minority if that’s the case.
You can transfer this thread to Players Forum.
This might be true £55m+£10m add ons, knowing how shit we are at negotiating for a player ?
So what you are saying is.. he fits in well for the United fans. Apart from Casemiro and Lisandro.. all our players are divisive anyway.
That makes £65M, report states deal is done at £60M - so probably 55+5
Could honestly be both - 5m in easily achievable add-ons like appearances, 5m in more challenging ones like big trophies. Chelsea have previous for this sort of structure.
Starting to look like the old mates are gonna be playing for rival sides in Manchester,think last time City lost out for player they wanted was Jorginho to Chelsea. They supposedly liked Maguire,Fred & Sanchez but can we count them
I’m not surprised he wants to join us purely for footballing reasons. Once this takeover nonsense is over we are one of the most attractive clubs in the world again. I’m convinced if we went for Rice 100% we’d get him too.
I'm sorry, why only the starting 11?
We are talking about united here, we’ll overpay we always do !
Judging by EtH's experiments at the end of last season, I reckon United next season will be a 433-formation out of possession and a WM-formation in possession.
Mount should be fine as a #8 / #10 hybrid. That role seems almost tailor made for him. He's basically going to be an upgrade on Fred in every single way.
Mount should be fine as a #8 / #10 hybrid. That role seems almost tailor made for him. He's basically going to be an upgrade on Fred in every single way.
Who would be in a first choice 11. Easy to choose since Ten Hag trusts 6 pluses at most
It’s difficult, if United stick to their valuations and start walking away from deals. You could end up fighting for a Top 6 position come the end of the season.
Martinez and Casemiro were at the top end close to over paying. But have turned out great.
Sancho and Antony (so far) have been vastly disappointing and both clearly over payed.
Is Mount worth more to United than the 40-50 valuation? who knows
Martinez and Casemiro were at the top end close to over paying. But have turned out great.
Sancho and Antony (so far) have been vastly disappointing and both clearly over payed.
Is Mount worth more to United than the 40-50 valuation? who knows
Apparently he's deleted his twitter and burned his bridges just to lower the price and come here. What a guy! Future legend
Every one of their equivalent players is better at/with ball retention, unfortunately. Our midfield 3 feels way more transition/counter-attack based. Shaw gives Zinchenko a good run for his money on ability with the ball, but the latter was an actual midfielder for most of his career too.
I think so too.
I'm v surprised that so many think buying Mason Mount for £50m is a bad deal in today's market. He's a damn good player, forget the last 15 months at Chelsea, that football club is completely nuts.
Mount is better than both Fred and SMT and raises the quality of our squad. Manchester United should be interested in signing and developing home-grown talent.
Just get him in. Get some out. And get some more in. We need to get better so we need better players!
Mount could and should use this role to define the next stage of his career. I hope we get him. I don't want him going to a competitor. No way.
Mount is better than both Fred and SMT and raises the quality of our squad. Manchester United should be interested in signing and developing home-grown talent.
Just get him in. Get some out. And get some more in. We need to get better so we need better players!
Mount could and should use this role to define the next stage of his career. I hope we get him. I don't want him going to a competitor. No way.
You will spend more than 100 mn mate. It's just a smoke screen to try and get better deals from selling clubs but also control fans expectations as well.
You will sign defender, gk, mount and rabiot and one cf. If Cf budget allows you then you might sign one more right back as well.
Yeah I can’t believe some are saying this is a bad signing. Declan Rice is going for £100m and I don’t think he’s double the player Mount is - hell I actually think Mount is a better player. Certainly less limited. Yes the contract is a thing but a year left is no longer the hard bargain chip it once was. I think if we get him sub £55m then that’s a great deal - in form and in contract he’d cost a lot more than that.
let me first say....i hate this new xG rating crap these guys use
as for mount....i think there's little argument that he's a technically very good player, he's young which fits the profile, can play in the middle or out wide plus his work rate is tremendous.
i think the only negative this transfer is bringing is associated with the price. over 50m for a guy with a year left on his contract is hard to swallow for most especially given the need for buying a CF.
Other than that we clearly need depth in CM as Eriksen, Donny and Bruno need fresh legs and another ball carrier beside them not named Fred or Scott.
£60m for a player in the final year of his contract who claims he isn't going to sign a new deal hardly screams good business. There's probably a certain premium that the club will have to stomach if we want Mount this summer, mainly because we're signing him from a rival, but it still wouldn't sit well with me.
Mount might well have been unavailable if his contract situation was different but there are some valid questions over his suitability for this team. It feels a lot more like an opportunity signing to me rather than one that makes logical sense. If we end up overpaying in a situation like that, where the player (in theory, at least) has a favourable contract situation to take advantage of, that doesn't bode well for our future business.
We always talk a good game about being prepared to move on from a player if the deal isn't right, but more often that not we end up paying and other clubs know they can exploit that. Realistically we aren't going to let a deal like this break down for the sake of £5-10m when Mount appears to be a key target for ten Hag, but we probably should be prepared to do that if we want other clubs to stop taking us for a ride. If it was me I'd go up in another £5m increment as a take it or leave it offer, but I imagine we'll pay whatever Chelsea ask in the end.
But isn’t it more about bringing in the best player we can for the money? It’s only really bad business if we pay more for Mount than we’d need to pay for another player as good or better.
If we walk away from the Mount deal at £55m, who are we going to get for that money? If there’s plenty of better options that’s great. If not, why do we care if Mount has a year or five years to run? It’s the same player.
Biding our time - that'll show 'em
Maybe, but like I already said I think there are already question marks over Mount's suitability for this team. I view him as a number 10 and I've never thought much of him when I've seen him player deeper for Chelsea or England. If he's coming in as the 'link' player between Casemiro and Fernandes, I think we can make smarter signings for that money.
I said it before but it reminds me of the van de Beek situation a couple of years ago. Ten Hag probably has a bit more of a plan for him but I think it's more about the opportunity to sign a player in what should be a relatively straightforward deal, rather than him being a player who fits an obvious need for the team.
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