Rabiot’s mum will scupper that one again.
Mount might go somewhere else or even re-sign with Chelsea if we don’t get him now - I’m not saying we should pay more but it’s not as simple as all that.
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Mount might go somewhere else or even re-sign with Chelsea if we don’t get him now - I’m not saying we should pay more but it’s not as simple as all that.
I was thinking it will be interesting to see how much he goes for with two big clubs interested and being in the same contract situation as Mount.
Amazes me that we intend to spend more than £40m on Mount, but think Kane will be too expensive... please, please can we get new owners who throw out the flotsam on the board and get in a proper DoF
Think he will be a good signing. Works his bollocks off and also has an end product.
At his best he’s one of the better midfielders in the league…..questions will be asked him his pretty mediocre last season but then again everyone at Chelsea was dogshit last season
At his best he’s one of the better midfielders in the league…..questions will be asked him his pretty mediocre last season but then again everyone at Chelsea was dogshit last season
Get him in.
I think chances of him re-signing with them are low and there won’t be many clubs willing to pay over the odds for him, and odds are really in our favour in this one.
But regardless, knowing us I think in the end we may offer them something like 50m + 5m add ons and they me just let him go for that price.
Rabiot though I think it would make more sense going for him this summer, as he would come free, and we might be willing to meet his wage demand this time after him having good season with Juventus.
£40million is already too much for Mount, who is a bang average player entering the final year of his contract.
Offer nothing more and move onto other targets, if he really wants the move, he can stay for a year and we'll take him on a free next season, same as Kane (obviously that's all highly unlikely) but we can't linger on stuff like this.
It's incredibly frustrating though when so many top midfielders are attainable and we're after Mount. Bellingham and McAllister have moved, Rice, Caicedo and Barella also potentially on the move and we're looking at a really average player.
The Glazers blatantly delaying to feck us over again on their way out.
Offer nothing more and move onto other targets, if he really wants the move, he can stay for a year and we'll take him on a free next season, same as Kane (obviously that's all highly unlikely) but we can't linger on stuff like this.
It's incredibly frustrating though when so many top midfielders are attainable and we're after Mount. Bellingham and McAllister have moved, Rice, Caicedo and Barella also potentially on the move and we're looking at a really average player.
The Glazers blatantly delaying to feck us over again on their way out.
Make final offer £45m + £10m in addons if they don't accept move on. It's that simple really !
£70m for Mount £75m for Havertz.... do Chelsea think they are selling to themselves... obviously Boehly's model to amortise and beat FFP includes selling players at fantasy rates
I can see us going £45-50m + add ons rising to £60m think it is still too much be a good margin, but who knows in a years time we will look back and see if it was good business or not
I also don't see us getting any player for reasonable prices, Mount has English tax, Utd tax, and now Boehly tax
I can see us going £45-50m + add ons rising to £60m think it is still too much be a good margin, but who knows in a years time we will look back and see if it was good business or not
I also don't see us getting any player for reasonable prices, Mount has English tax, Utd tax, and now Boehly tax
Offer them £100m combined for Mount and Havertz.
We then go sign Hojlund as well + Rabiot on a free and we’re sorted in midfield/attack.
Sell McT, Fred and DvdB (and Martial if possible).
We then go sign Hojlund as well + Rabiot on a free and we’re sorted in midfield/attack.
Sell McT, Fred and DvdB (and Martial if possible).
Why do we need both Mount and Havertz? The latter is bang average anyway.
It's truly strange to me that this is the transfer we're moving for decisively. If we are, however, £40m is a reasonable bid. If we go higher, we're mugs.
Since his position isn't urgently one we need to reinforce (less so than CF or DM, anyway), this seems such an obvious moment to wait a year and snap him up on a free. Sensible to make lots of noise about pursuing him now so we are front-runners next summer. Maybe that's what all this is actually in aid of?
Since his position isn't urgently one we need to reinforce (less so than CF or DM, anyway), this seems such an obvious moment to wait a year and snap him up on a free. Sensible to make lots of noise about pursuing him now so we are front-runners next summer. Maybe that's what all this is actually in aid of?
And the better player.
As a number 8, no chance.
My guess is that we’re signing Mount for the “nr.8/CM” role, while I see Havertz as more of a CF/AM (to provide cover for Bruno as well as being a CF-option alongside Hojlund and Rashford, that seems solid enough for me).
Don't get the hype with Maddison.
I agree, if we overspend it should be for the absolute best. Not for Mount who is a squad player at Chelsea.
Fair point. I just don't much like Mount at all so as a #8 I wouldn't want either. Whereas Maddison at #10 would be a canny buy.
I know he had a bad season, but he won Chelsea player of the year twice (and once in a Champions League winning year) and has 36 caps for England by the age of 24. Surely we as fans are missing something here which we should introspect before shouting abuses at United staff for going after him?
And he's been rubbish in nearly all 36 of them.
This. Beyond my understanding how he is our priority target with willingness to overpay, when there are other areas to adress.
It is going to be hard to bargain with Chelsea given the amount that they have paid recently for their players.
They have paid well over the odds for them so it is not hard to work out that they will think the same when selling.
They have paid well over the odds for them so it is not hard to work out that they will think the same when selling.
This is actually the reason it should be easier to negotiate with them. Boehly's entire crazy scheme is predicated on enormous revenues from selling players. That only happens if CFC actually successfully sell someone.
If we and others call their bluff, the club will be in absolutely dire circumstances with regards to FFP. The only solution I can see is that the whole model is just built upon paying FFP fines and being guilty all the time of violating them.
For now Chelsea can say whatever they want in the press. But why anyone would pay near 70m for Mount (with 1 year left) or Haavertz (who is barely a striker) is beyond me.
If United are sensible with both Mount and Kane (as it sounds like in the press anyway) then thank f*ck, maybe we're finally learning something.
May be true, but it is not worthy of some praise. Kane, Sterling, Rashford, Saka, Shaw, Trippier, Walker, Stones have had some good matches in the past few years though.So has every other England player bar Maguire
What do you think of your chances of reaching the CL this season? If Mount leaves then who are you looking at for a replacement? Also I believe Kovacic could be going to city is he as highly rated as Mount from your lot?
If I were United negotiating team, I'd wait till the last week of transfer window and bid again. If chelsea don't sell now, he'd walk for free next season
We hope every team start from zero point and we have every chance to make it into top 5.
Pochettino I actually not rated much but he is more proven than Potter at top level and he has the track record of getting better things from young players.
We also have no European commitment that will give poch enough time to implement his ideas and enough rest between games I hope we will use core 15/16 players for entire season this time around.
Kovasic yes very good player but his end product always letting him down. Past season he frequently got muscle injuries. So no hard feelings if he goes.City and pep may get better output from him though.
English player. Transfer between 2 English clubs. It's the perfect recipe for the media.
Just recycle the same bs everyday as if any of them know what's happening haha.
Just recycle the same bs everyday as if any of them know what's happening haha.
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He's very much a different type of player to Mount but I would fully expect Nkunku to take the starting place as the man behind the main striker.
What that means is we'll then need two defensively solid midfielders behind him so basically Enzo Fernandez alongside another DM. As to who that defensive midfielder is going to be I have no idea, Caicedo is obviously the main target but unclear whether it's realistic for us to land him or not.
I'd take Maddison over Mount to be fair, for a reasonable fee that is.
This guy over Caicedo is mental and the worst part of it is we are funding their move
They're completely different players. If Mount fits how ETH actually intends to set up and Caicedo doesn't then we should obviously be opting for Mount.
Could get both IF owners fecked off and actually managed to sell some players
Striker
Keeper
Midfielder
Defender
In that order.
Put a second, improved bid in and focus on other targets. If this transfer becomes a deadline window transfer then so be it. If we don't sign him, so be it. Striker and keeper are top priorities.
Keeper
Midfielder
Defender
In that order.
Put a second, improved bid in and focus on other targets. If this transfer becomes a deadline window transfer then so be it. If we don't sign him, so be it. Striker and keeper are top priorities.
Why stop there? Don't limit yourself, hope the world transfer record is broken, that'll really show them!
Value and price are different. The main factors in his value to the buying club are his age and how good for the team he is or will become. Whether he has 1 or 3 years left on his contract is not so important to his value but is a factor in his sale price. So what is he worth (value) and what will he cost to buy this summer?
Would be swell if we could get both, but as it stands, getting Mount, even if he ends up costing £60m, would be the better move.
Having two players that we paid a combined £140m for (excluding add-ons) one position, while leaving holes elsewhere, would be the bigger waste of our funds.
Yeah. 36 caps. We should actually use that to bring the price down.
Of those you mentioned Kane has been the least impressive for England for me. I never find his performances anything to write home about.
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