Mason Mount | Confirmed

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Rajiztar said:
We knew his worth mate. We will happily send him to you for free. We are not upset with that. He was the difference for last three seasons when we finished top 4 won cl. Why you bother about nothing player to sign for you then. :lol:
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Was he the difference really? Think I’ve seen him have 1 good season with you and that was when you won the CL. And as for us going after a nothing player… it’s more of the fact ETH sees him as an ideal player for his system. You’ve been changing managers/systems for a year so how can anyone get into form? :lol: I’m not to bothered either way if we get him or not. I’ll obviously back him if ETH thinks he’ll improve us, if anyone can get him back to his best it’s ETH.
 
DJ_21 said:
Was he the difference really? Think I’ve seen him have 1 good season with you and that was when you won the CL. And as for us going after a nothing player… it’s more of the fact ETH sees him as an ideal player for his system. You’ve been changing managers/systems for a year so how can anyone get into form? :lol: I’m not to bothered either way if we get him or not. I’ll obviously back him if ETH thinks he’ll improve us, if anyone can get him back to his best it’s ETH.
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Whether eth get him back to his best or not i don't know but we knew what s best of mount. We want to keep him. Pochettino may be fail for us and mount may go for free next season. We even may finish below 12 th. Nothing matters. We hope we will fight for cl spot and mount will be vital part of it.

If you want him now then pay what we see as his worth if not just get him for free next season if he still not extend his contract.
 
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Rajiztar said:
Well you are recently linked with Napoli s zielinsky. Hope you sign him and leave mount and chelsea alone in this window. I am happy with that.
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You really rate Mount don’t you? I can’t say I’ve seen much of him play to be honest. Just seen his stats and a few videos on YouTube. What’s his biggest strengths and his weaknesses?
 
I hope we stick to our guns at £40 million, it's not like we've got any competition for him, and I'd like to think we'll have a decent list of viable alternatives.

Anyway there is no way should we be helping Chelsea out, they are just about the worst of the worst imo, and needed to learn that they can't expect to sell players like they bought them in January.
 
Think he is a good player though wouldnt be my choice, £40m seems about right in his current situation. Personally hope there is a second offer and it is under £50m as dont think we should pay more than that....and if it isnt accepted we shoud look at other targets
 
Rajiztar said:
Not at all. Our manager already said he wants mount to stay. We can easily get those 50 mn from other saleable assets. It's not our only option to get those amount. Regarding ffp we already reduced our wage bill considerably more than 1/3rd.

Kovasic to city almost done for 35 mn. Saudis talk with some players already especially aubamyang,ziyech,koulibally and Lukaku too. Except Lukaku all will jump for money. They are almost disposable assets for us. Pulisic also linked with Italian clubs.

You can have mount on our terms only in this window. You can't force us. That's the reality either you believe it or not.
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Do you work on the Chelsea board or do you have delusions of grandeur ?
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Ingurlish tax and all that.
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Do you actually have any evidence of that or do you just want to subtly (or not) insult English players and some "mythical" tax English players have?

According to Wikipedia the biggest transfers in world football:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

Only 3 of the top 50 biggest transfers of all time were from England. Only 13 of those transfers involved selling clubs from England. That doesn't yet include this years transfers, but it would only increase to 4 due to Bellingham.

There is a general trend (with some assumptions made) that the average transfer fee of players to (?) Premier League clubs has risen, but some of this is (reasonably) speculated to correspond to increases in sponsorship.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...news/how-much-average-premier-league-16552046

Nothing to do with the player being "Ingurlish".
 
DJ_21 said:
You really rate Mount don’t you? I can’t say I’ve seen much of him play to be honest. Just seen his stats and a few videos on YouTube. What’s his biggest strengths and his weaknesses?
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Yes we rate him much tbh. May be biased but I think most of you really underrated him.

He started as left forward for us most times but for tuchel system he was given freer role to combine our midfield two 6s and form fluent 3-5-2. Werner and havertz as strikers with two auxillary strikers in wing backs when we attack. He can carry the ball can pass long range can form good triangle with wing backs and strikers. Very good at finding space and run into it not bad with scoring goals himself. Very good at pressing.

He mostly gained his assists stats with Werner havertz pulisic ziyech. They missed most simplest chances than they scored. His assist stats were really undermined by that very fact.

We liked him for what we saw in most matches for us. Yes last season we played bad and him too but despite this i want him to stay. If pochettino got better things from dele then I am looking forward to next season with mount under pochettino than without him.
 
Wow, a bunch of new posts in the Mount thread, wonder if there's been any dev...

Oh, it's just a bunch of people moaning.
 
cyberman said:
We’ve put a bid in an hour ago
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Yeah, and yet it's still just people moaning about the (potential) fee, exactly as it was before we (reportedly) put in a bid.

Hope we get him and that he costs more than £60m, if only because it'll drive the fee moaners insane.
 
0le said:
Do you actually have any evidence of that or do you just want to subtly (or not) insult English players and some "mythical" tax English players have?

According to Wikipedia the biggest transfers in world football:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

Only 3 of the top 50 biggest transfers of all time were from England. Only 13 of those transfers involved selling clubs from England. That doesn't yet include this years transfers, but it would only increase to 4 due to Bellingham.

There is a general trend (with some assumptions made) that the average transfer fee of players to (?) Premier League clubs has risen, but some of this is (reasonably) speculated to correspond to increases in sponsorship.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...news/how-much-average-premier-league-16552046

Nothing to do with the player being "Ingurlish".
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Ooooh I seem to have touched a nerve, chill out fella. I made a little throwaway comment about why Mounts transfer price is so high, it’s common knowledge English players in the PL go for a premium, I never said they were the most expensive transfers of all time so I don’t know why your pulling out stats like that.
 
Just get him on a free next year. Guarantee it gets to august and Chelsea get back on the phone to us, they need him gone.
 
2 man midfield said:
Just get him on a free next year. Guarantee it gets to august and Chelsea get back on the phone to us, they need him gone.
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Apparently arsenal go all in for havertz. I will bite their 60 mn offer if that's true. Keep mount and getting 60 mn for havertz. I will say thank you arsenal.
Still not believe it though.

Please God make it true. I don't mind if he will be good for arsenal. Just give us the money and we can build our team around nkunku. This havertz experiment finally over for us I hope.

With kovasic also rumoured to be moving to city around 35 mn. We are just Ruben away for 15 mn to comply with ffp.
 
Halftrack said:
Yeah, and yet it's still just people moaning about the (potential) fee, exactly as it was before we (reportedly) put in a bid.

Hope we get him and that he costs more than £60m, if only because it'll drive the fee moaners insane.
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Ha, yeah! Although they will moan if it’s £50m so we could hope it’s that and then we’ll have an extra ten mill in the kitty.
 
Halftrack said:
Yeah, and yet it's still just people moaning about the (potential) fee, exactly as it was before we (reportedly) put in a bid.

Hope we get him and that he costs more than £60m, if only because it'll drive the fee moaners insane.
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No, because people were saying before that he is worth £30-40m and now we have just had a bid at the top of that range rejected.
 
ShinjiNinja26 said:
Ooooh I seem to have touched a nerve, chill out fella.
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When someone calls you out, it doesn't mean they are "not chilled out" as you suggest. That's a really odd assumption to make.

it’s common knowledge English players in the PL go for a premium,
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No, it isn't common knowledge. Its a line stated a lot, but with little to no evidence to back it up. I've asked you to provide evidence and you haven't.

I never said they were the most expensive transfers of all time so I don’t know why your pulling out stats like that.
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I know you didn't say they were the most expensive. But I used those transfers to indicate that hardly any English players from that list at least had some preconceived "English tax" on them. You are welcome to provide evidence on the contrary although I suspect you cannot. You would expect, if an "english tax" existed, that they'd have higher fees in general and therefore more players would appear in that list.

Interestingly you also ignored the other evidence, which referred instead to rising sponsorship in the Premier League as a reason rather than nationality, which seems far more plausible.
 
£40m strikes me as a sensible enough first bid and as such I'd be happy to go a bit higher. The possibility that Chelsea simply do not understand how much players are worth though, as evidenced by their spending, does make me concerned they might actually think somewhere close to their valuation is achievable. I'd hope we're working on alternatives, in case that turns out to be the case.
 
40m rejected, lets bid 41 :)
We better dont overpay for once and act desperate. 45m max, he wants to leave, Chelsea needs to sell, so we have time. We can get him in January for 20m or next summer for free
 
Think £50m is a fair fee with him only having 1 year left, if it goes above £55m I hope we pull out
 
Halftrack said:
Yeah, and yet it's still just people moaning about the (potential) fee, exactly as it was before we (reportedly) put in a bid.

Hope we get him and that he costs more than £60m, if only because it'll drive the fee moaners insane.
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Haha yes, you hope the club overpays, potentially affecting the budget for other players,. That'll show those people on the internet! (who also support the club). You sound sane.
 
40 million is fair. No way he's worth 60 million, let alone 40 itself.
 
Let’s just stick with £40m. If Chelsea refuse to sell, so be it. We can always sign Rabiot for free this summer and then bring Mount in again for free next summer. Let’s reserve our valuable funds this summer for Hojlund/Kim/new keeper instead.
 
DOTA said:
£40m strikes me as a sensible enough first bid and as such I'd be happy to go a bit higher. The possibility that Chelsea simply do not understand how much players are worth though, as evidenced by their spending, does make me concerned they might actually think somewhere close to their valuation is achievable. I'd hope we're working on alternatives, in case that turns out to be the case.
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Maddison seems an obvious alternative.
 
0le said:
Do you actually have any evidence of that or do you just want to subtly (or not) insult English players and some "mythical" tax English players have?

According to Wikipedia the biggest transfers in world football:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

Only 3 of the top 50 biggest transfers of all time were from England. Only 13 of those transfers involved selling clubs from England. That doesn't yet include this years transfers, but it would only increase to 4 due to Bellingham.

There is a general trend (with some assumptions made) that the average transfer fee of players to (?) Premier League clubs has risen, but some of this is (reasonably) speculated to correspond to increases in sponsorship.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spo...news/how-much-average-premier-league-16552046

Nothing to do with the player being "Ingurlish".
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I think the 'English Tax' thing may well be overstated but your seeming willingness to dismiss that it even exists, also massive underplays its occurence.

Pointing to a list of 'the biggest transfers in world football' as 'evidence' that it isn't a thing is comparing apples to oranges, and if anything proves the point. The 'best' players in world football have not been english in recent times. You have to go back to Ferdinand, Owen and Beckham days for when we had players in that conversation. The issue is not the top drawer player Ballon D'or potential type players (although even amongst the English elite you'd have to question why Grealish has a vastly higher valuation than Chiesa, or Mount more than Barella, but the fair to middling ones who move within the premier league and fetch a premium simply because they're 'homegrown' and 'have premier league' experience is where just a simple eye test tells you it exists. Kalvin Phillips, Raheem Sterling, Drinkwaters, Solankes, Morgan Gibbs Whites of this world.

I don't need stats to tell me that these fees are inflated based on their 'homegrowness' and that without that 'engerlish tax' equivalent players could and frequently are snapped up from all around the world and for far less of a premium.
 
@DJ_21 Mount contribution for us in league since hazard left:
Since the start of the 2017/18 season, Mason Mount is the only Chelsea player to score 20+ goals and provide 20+ assists in the Premier League: ◉ 27 goals ◉ 22 assists He's also created more chances than any of his teammates in that time (227). Source:@Squawka

Most Premier League goals scored for Chelsea since 2017/18: ◉ 28 - Eden Hazard ◉ 27 - Mason Mount ◉ 21 - Tammy Abraham ◉ 21 - Jorginho ◉ 20 - Christian Pulisic Eden Hazard left in 2019. Source:@Squawka
 
Rajiztar said:
@DJ_21 Mount contribution for us in league since hazard left:
Since the start of the 2017/18 season, Mason Mount is the only Chelsea player to score 20+ goals and provide 20+ assists in the Premier League: ◉ 27 goals ◉ 22 assists He's also created more chances than any of his teammates in that time (227). Source:@Squawka

Most Premier League goals scored for Chelsea since 2017/18: ◉ 28 - Eden Hazard ◉ 27 - Mason Mount ◉ 21 - Tammy Abraham ◉ 21 - Jorginho ◉ 20 - Christian Pulisic Eden Hazard left in 2019. Source:@Squawka
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Thanks for the stats. Think he’ll add a lot to our game if we sign him. Depends if you budge on the price though. Don’t think we’ll go higher then 60m but time will tell.
 
I thought Mason Mount was an untouchable like Lampard was for Chelsea. Some sort of talismanic player. But for the ridiculous spending and size of squad, he probably would have signed a new contract. If EtH needs him for his system, yes please.
 
DJ_21 said:
Thanks for the stats. Think he’ll add a lot to our game if we sign him. Depends if you budge on the price though. Don’t think we’ll go higher then 60m but time will tell.
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It's insane to pay 60m for a player that will be free in a matter of a few months.
 
tenpoless said:
Then just say thank you and good bye. Theyll come back crawling knowing he will leave for free next year.
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Exactly. I also don't like the idea of handing out money to our direct rivals so early in the transfer window.
 
Bid made - bid rejected.

40 mill are already more than he is worth. Now please move away from him.

He was never a real improvement on what we have, we need someone to replace Eriksen who has better defensive skills and that is not Mount.
 
DJ_21 said:
Thanks for the stats. Think he’ll add a lot to our game if we sign him. Depends if you budge on the price though. Don’t think we’ll go higher then 60m but time will tell.
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I completely understood your financial constraints but even you spend 100 mn on mount you won't regret it. He will elevate your team to great level. From him you will get minimum 7/10 each game.

Other than his offensive attributes he will give you the relentless press up front or wherever the position he played. Manager s player who can play tactically astute as per manager s wish.

So why managers like tuchel klopp eth and pochettino wants him in their team.

For me you spend whatever even 100 mn, if you get the output you desired then money well spent.

It's not about how much you spend but do you get maximum out of it then I am all for it. So why I will rather take 50 mn hit by keep him and send him for free.

I believe eventually we will get more money by getting into cl by keeping him than losing him out for 50 mn and cl as well.
 
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