Martial's partner gives birth and the resultant hell from two warring factions

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I don't understand, his girlfriend just had a kid and he's expected to be on tour already?

He was given permission to be at the birth. The birth was a few days ago now.
He really isn’t showing any desire to forward his career.
 
I don't understand, his girlfriend just had a kid and he's expected to be on tour already?

If I'm rich and a very busy man: I would go back, show my presence as a father, hire everything I can possibly hire, tell my wife I got to go for work ASAP and go back to my multi million fecking job.

It's simple isn't it?
 
If I'm rich and a very busy man: I would go back, show my presence as a father, hire everything I can possibly hire, tell my wife I got to go for work ASAP and go back to my multi million fecking job.

It's simple isn't it?
Exactly. It's a week before he's back home, not like we're here for another month is it.
 
Exactly. It's a week before he's back home, not like we're here for another month is it.

..And her girlfriend should easily understand that his lover isn't just a normal guy, he's a public figure that is responsible for the biggest club in the world. Any girlfriend would just let it go.

Martial is just not committed since LVG left.
 
If I'm rich and a very busy man: I would go back, show my presence as a father, hire everything I can possibly hire, tell my wife I got to go for work ASAP and go back to my multi million fecking job.

It's simple isn't it?

We should stop his pay until he can show that he can be arsed.
He will be asking for full paternity leave next.
 
Petty scapegoating. The guy who can't even make his first team sheet when everyone is fit isn't why we still can't string passes
 
Petty scapegoating. The guy who can't even make his first team sheet when everyone is fit isn't why we still can't string passes

Scapegoating? Mourinho stated that his plan is for Martial to start our attack against Leicester.
 
He was given permission to be at the birth. The birth was a few days ago now.
He really isn’t showing any desire to forward his career.

I really don't understand this point of view. He's not allowed to stay with his newborn baby for a week? If this was any other job it would be fine, surely?
 
Scapegoating? Mourinho stated that his plan is for Martial to start our attack against Leicester.
"When everyone is fit". Mourinho moans at players for not playing injured so not surprised he's moaning at a player for choosing family over a preseason fixture. Personally I'd be with the team if I were in his shoes but basic human understanding should permit the opposite decision instead of being spiteful like a kid. I'll be angry if he doesn't show up before Leicester. Martial's absence/presence isn't a fix to our problems. Why have a moan about a man being there for his newborn?
 
I really don't understand this point of view. He's not allowed to stay with his newborn baby for a week? If this was any other job it would be fine, surely?

Any normal jobs would only allow 2 days for paternity leave. Unless you're the wife.
 
"When everyone is fit". Mourinho moans at players for not playing injured so not surprised he's moaning at a player for choosing family over a preseason fixture. Personally I'd be with the team if I were in his shoes but basic human understanding should permit the opposite decision instead of being spiteful like a kid. I'll be angry if he doesn't show up before Leicester. Martial's absence/presence isn't a fix to our problems. Why have a moan about a man being there for his newborn?

Yes, football is a lot of work. I kind of agree with Jose here, we need a lot of preparation and when you didn't come for 2 games straight, Jose might have to scrap all his plans for Martial.
 
Yes, football is a lot of work. I kind of agree with Jose here, we need a lot of preparation and when you didn't come for 2 games straight, Jose might have to scrap all his plans for Martial.
From the rest of his comments he's basically disowned 70% of the team. I'll take a different approach and wait till he's left crybaby mode and is back to a more level headed mindstate
 
Any companies normally only gave 2 days max for paternity leave , Jose already stated that he plan to use him in our first game against Leicester, so he must have cancel his plan now. This is an exact example how his love life can hinder his own career , he should be with the team, working hard , ensure his place against Leicester , perform well and challenge Mourinho for starting position after but all the positive possibilities gone because of too much love. Hope this means he gets sold, we can't have player with too much love drama behind
 
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No sympathy for Martial here. No problem with him rushing home for the birth but after a couple of days he should be on the first flight back, if he was committed then that would be the case.
 
This whole situation is just weird to me.

Did we learn if he notified the club he'd leave for his child's birth?

Though it seems that 1 rumor of him telling his teammates he has no intention of returning might be true. If so, :nono:
 
This whole situation is just weird to me.

Did we learn if he notified the club he'd leave for his child's birth?

Though it seems that 1 rumor of him telling his teammates he has no intention of returning might be true. If so, :nono:
What are you on about ? He gets his permission but any normal employee would have returned working by now, that's what pissed Jose
 
What are you on about ? He gets his permission but any normal employee would have returned working by now

Did you read my post?

Clearly it seems the rumor of him having no intention of returning is actually true.
 
I imagine Mourinho wanted him there so he could leave him on the bench anyway.
 
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Father provide the sperm and then they should run away and leave all parenting to the mother?
 
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Father provide the sperm and then they should run away and leave all parenting to the mother?

You can see the child when you are back from tour.... its not like he is going to be in America all year.
 
Any companies normally only gave 2 days max for paternity leave , Jose already stated that he plan to use him in our first game against Leicester, so he must have cancel his plan now. This is an exact example how his love life can hinder his own career , he should be with the team, working hard , ensure his place against Leicester , perform well and challenge Mourinho for starting position after but all the positive possibilities gone because of too much love. Hope this means he gets sold, we can't have player with too much love drama behind
No they don’t. You’re entitled to a week or two, what a load of rubbish, not to mention throwing in another long haul flight. From Jose’s post match interview he made it very clear he is annoyed and that he thinks Martial should be back there now. Looks like the situation is going to come to a head pretty soon.
 
You can see the child when you are back from tour.... its not like he is going to be in America all year.

You are wrong, it's Martial. Martial can do whatever he wants whenever he wants because he can become great in the future. Sack the manager!!!!!
 
No they don’t. You’re entitled to a week or two, what a load of rubbish, not to mention throwing in another long haul flight. From Jose’s post match interview he made it very clear he is annoyed and that he thinks Martial should be back there now. Looks like the situation is going to come to a head pretty soon.

Where did you work ? I would love to have a week for paternity leave , here they force me to back working within 3 days & my salary is peanuts compared to Martial. Good things is he is probably leaving forever from United.
 
..And her girlfriend should easily understand that his lover isn't just a normal guy, he's a public figure that is responsible for the biggest club in the world. Any girlfriend would just let it go.

Martial is just not committed since LVG left
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That's Karma my friend - if the manager doesn't provide commitment to players from first season with ibrahinpvic & second with pure lulkaku bias - then ultimately you are not going to get commitment.

Hopefully Pogba is not too different & the board feel they can't lose these players.
 
People are genuinely upset with the man for wanting to be with his wife and newborn child for a few days? Fecking hell :wenger:

Mourinho keeps droning on about how meaningless the games are so is there really an issue here.
 
You can see the child when you are back from tour.... its not like he is going to be in America all year.

This is a pre-season friendly with most of the other senior players also missing. He's not missing the league match at Anfield for a friend's birthday, he is missing a practice session in LA for the birth of his child.
 
I really don't understand this point of view. He's not allowed to stay with his newborn baby for a week? If this was any other job it would be fine, surely?
His pay reflects the fact it isn’t any other job. If he wants a weeks paternity leave he can get a job stacking shelves at Tesco.
 
Any normal jobs would only allow 2 days for paternity leave. Unless you're the wife.

Any companies normally only gave 2 days max for paternity leave , Jose already stated that he plan to use him in our first game against Leicester, so he must have cancel his plan now. This is an exact example how his love life can hinder his own career , he should be with the team, working hard , ensure his place against Leicester , perform well and challenge Mourinho for starting position after but all the positive possibilities gone because of too much love. Hope this means he gets sold, we can't have player with too much love drama behind

Don't know which country you guys are from but in Ireland you're entitled to two weeks paternity leave.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/e...tions/leave_and_holidays/paternity_leave.html

I would have thought it would be something similar in the UK.
 
Where did you work ? I would love to have a week for paternity leave , here they force me to back working within 3 days & my salary is peanuts compared to Martial. Good things is he is probably leaving forever from United.
It’s the law in the uk.

Well you think it’s a good thing, I do not but each to their own. Would rather he would stay.
 
People are genuinely upset with the man for wanting to be with his wife and newborn child for a few days? Fecking hell :wenger:

Mourinho keeps droning on about how meaningless the games are so is there really an issue here.

This is a pre-season friendly with most of the other senior players also missing. He's not missing the league match at Anfield for a friend's birthday, he is missing a practice session in LA for the birth of his child.
He could have ensure himself of starting position against Leicester with a good pre-season if only he didn't have so much kidz to bother about. I thought Martial FC fans here want to see him start ? Now Jose 100% won't start him and he is losing chance to impress at the start of season before Lukaku and Rashford available to pick. If he stay with United, he is guarantee to become benchwarmer again.
 
This is a pre-season friendly with most of the other senior players also missing. He's not missing the league match at Anfield for a friend's birthday, he is missing a practice session in LA for the birth of his child.

He knows we are lacking players. He knows we need to prepare for the season. He wad allowed to be at the birth. He should have been on a plane back to America though.
 
People are genuinely upset with the man for wanting to be with his wife and newborn child for a few days? Fecking hell :wenger:

Mourinho keeps droning on about how meaningless the games are so is there really an issue here.
The rest of the players are still training though. That’s what pre season is for. Is Martial?
 
So wait which one is it, we lost and they say how game is pointless friendly, we are missing so many players so who cares etc. He is gone because his sperm product came on this world, now people having a go at him because he isnt there for that same friendly game. So is it pointless or not?
 
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