Martial's partner gives birth and the resultant hell from two warring factions

[SparkedIntoLife]

I'm not an ITK but I've met a couple of interesting people recently with very close links to Martial and a coach at United who I'll keep anonymous. The link to Martial is more solid and direct but I trust both of these sources. It's not anything particularly revolutionary but I thought I'd pass it on.

The coach finds Mourinho very difficult to deal with ('pain in the arse' was a phrase used, I believe) and knows several other staff members who feel the same way. This is in great contrast to Fergie who almost everyone absolutely loved.

Martial definitely has big problems with Jose (it's obvious I suppose). My contact also said he expects Martial to leave. This is a very good source close to the player. I won't mention who because it would breach personal trust. Sorry to be vague and I certainly don't want Mourinho to fail. We all probably have people in our work places who wouldn't speak highly of us and those are not always fair opinions but I worry with Jose that there's a little too much smoke around the club and that a big fire is due.

 

[Laurentiu amt]

He still doesn't have to air the dirty laundry at any given opportunity even if Martial broke their agreement.

That depends on a lot of things. Even Fergie used to do it in his day.

 

[Kostov]

I know but Martial had to impress and his whole demeanour was off. Pretty sure he barely had a decent display after that too. Anyway he has made up his mind to leave so lets send him on his way. I'm disappointed it didn't work out as I had high hopes for him but can't keep making excuses for him.

Martial had to impress since day 1 under Mourinho, and he was conducting brilliantly from the start of the season. Generally I though Jose handled that LW spot good with the competition of Rashford and Martial. By January, Martial won it over in my books, with a winning performance against Burnley away. He had decent games as much as anyone up til then, with most player of the month awards from the season, based on fans voting that is, so please don't rewrite history just to suit some agenda.

I'm also disappointed and frankly annoyed how did we handle the whole situation. And not because of bullshit like Martial FC and similar childish arguments, but because we are loosing one of the best wing prospects, while we are struggling to find decent wingers for a couple of years now.

 

[RedEM10]

I'm not an ITK but I've met a couple of interesting people recently with very close links to Martial and a coach at United who I'll keep anonymous. The link to Martial is more solid and direct but I trust both of these sources. It's not anything particularly revolutionary but I thought I'd pass it on.

The coach finds Mourinho very difficult to deal with ('pain in the arse' was a phrase used, I believe) and knows several other staff members who feel the same way. This is in great contrast to Fergie who almost everyone absolutely loved.

Martial definitely has big problems with Jose (it's obvious I suppose). My contact also said he expects Martial to leave. This is a very good source close to the player. I won't mention who because it would breach personal trust. Sorry to be vague and I certainly don't want Mourinho to fail. We all probably have people in our work places who wouldn't speak highly of us and those are not always fair opinions but I worry with Jose that there's a little too much smoke around the club and that a big fire is due.

What a load of shete

 

[Jojo <3 Mou]

Mourinho fell out with Cristiano Ronaldo who is probably the most professional player in the game today.

He's fallen out badly with far too many players to take his side.

Mourinho has history. So does Martial; see the quotes that I got from a Skysports article on Martial.

"On the flip side there are issues about consistency, ability to impose himself physically and possibly a certain lack of determination."
- Former Monaco chief executive Tor-Kristian Karlsen.

"He is a great youngster with a great future, but he must change his mind-set. Sometimes the French mentality is, 'Today I play well, maybe I'll play well tomorrow'. No, you must work hard to do your best every day."
-Former Monaco coach Claudio Ranieri told a press conference in 2013.

 

[K2K]

Mourinho has history. So does Martial; see the quotes that I got from a Skysports article on Martial.

"On the flip side there are issues about consistency, ability to impose himself physically and possibly a certain lack of determination."
- Former Monaco chief executive Tor-Kristian Karlsen.

"He is a great youngster with a great future, but he must change his mind-set. Sometimes the French mentality is, 'Today I play well, maybe I'll play well tomorrow'. No, you must work hard to do your best every day."
-Former Monaco coach Claudio Ranieri told a press conference in 2013.

Neither of them comes out of this looking well.

The fact that it's playing out in public is even more embarassing.

 

[Jojo <3 Mou]

Neither of them comes out of this looking well.

The fact that it's playing out in public is even more embarassing.

I agree.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Mourinho has history. So does Martial; see the quotes that I got from a Skysports article on Martial.

"On the flip side there are issues about consistency, ability to impose himself physically and possibly a certain lack of determination."
- Former Monaco chief executive Tor-Kristian Karlsen.

"He is a great youngster with a great future, but he must change his mind-set. Sometimes the French mentality is, 'Today I play well, maybe I'll play well tomorrow'. No, you must work hard to do your best every day."
-Former Monaco coach Claudio Ranieri told a press conference in 2013.

Interesting and not surprising at all that a player with lack of determination is rubbing Jose up the wrong way. When Martial pulls on the United jersey, he should give his all always, which is the least us fans expect.

 

[JPRouve]

Mourinho has history. So does Martial; see the quotes that I got from a Skysports article on Martial.

"On the flip side there are issues about consistency, ability to impose himself physically and possibly a certain lack of determination."
- Former Monaco chief executive Tor-Kristian Karlsen.

"He is a great youngster with a great future, but he must change his mind-set. Sometimes the French mentality is, 'Today I play well, maybe I'll play well tomorrow'. No, you must work hard to do your best every day."
-Former Monaco coach Claudio Ranieri told a press conference in 2013.

Bear in mind that these are quotes about a 17 years old player.

Also here is what Ranieri said about him that same year.

Il a les qualités pour faire un grand joueur, le potentiel pour faire une grande carrière, a déclaré son entraîneur Claudio Ranieri. Il est costaud, jeune, avec une bonne mentalité"

"He has the qualities to be a great player, the potential for a great career. he is strong, young, with a good mentality."

 

[jmaggio]

Losing this guy will be a travesty, no matter the situation.

 

[iHicksy]

I'm not an ITK but I've met a couple of interesting people recently with very close links to Martial and a coach at United who I'll keep anonymous. The link to Martial is more solid and direct but I trust both of these sources. It's not anything particularly revolutionary but I thought I'd pass it on.

The coach finds Mourinho very difficult to deal with ('pain in the arse' was a phrase used, I believe) and knows several other staff members who feel the same way. This is in great contrast to Fergie who almost everyone absolutely loved.

Martial definitely has big problems with Jose (it's obvious I suppose). My contact also said he expects Martial to leave. This is a very good source close to the player. I won't mention who because it would breach personal trust. Sorry to be vague and I certainly don't want Mourinho to fail. We all probably have people in our work places who wouldn't speak highly of us and those are not always fair opinions but I worry with Jose that there's a little too much smoke around the club and that a big fire is due.

lol sure. You have not just one, but two insider links into Old Trafford, who just happen to be in each camp?

 

[Jojo <3 Mou]

Bear in mind that these are quotes about a 17 years old player.

The issue is that he has seemingly stopped growing. These problems at 17 seem to still exist at 22.

Sometimes, I fear that he will forever be the player with so much potential but never manage to live up to it.

 

[Kostov]

Do you not? Sanchez had fairly good games against City and Spurs while Rashford scored a double against Liverpool. What was Martial’s contribution?

Rashford was appalling against Brighton no doubt. Martial wasn’t any better though. And unlike Rashford or Sanchez, Martial didn’t register a single goal post January. Sanchez was a new signing and there’s not a manager in the world that wouldn’t give that new signing time to bed in. Especially with his previous pedigree.

Maybe the team would’ve benefited more but not on the evidence of what he showed when he did play. He wasn’t dropped until he’d had a few games of contributing nothing and then he got injured. Almost every game he started from February on was a shit show.

What was Martial's contributions? He was on the bench for some reasons Mourinho applies for certain players, while Alexis served shit on the stick football and started week in week out.

Just to point out, since Alexis arrived, he played 1049 minutes, Martial played 495 minutes. Just before that Spurs away shambles Martial had 3 goals and 1 assist in January, Alexis came in and went in on LW immediately, while Martial was shifted to RW where he had a poor game like everyone, including Alexis who went into the team because he was the new shiny toy, and in the mean time it disrupted the only functional wing we had until than. In the next 2 games Martial firstly played 13 minutes as a CF against Hudersfield and 90minutes again vs Newcastle as a RW, in a game where Alexis was as dreadful as everybody, but remained in the team.

As a contrast Alexis scored 3 fecking goals post January, what a return that was. And just to mention it, the one game you mentioned vs Chelsea, where Martial started LW and Alexis RW, Martial assisted for one of the goals. Then he missed two games through injury, and the next two games was benched due to whatever reason Mourinho found it. He started some games where Alexis was absent or was his sub when he was back available. Rashford had a disastrous season, despite his 2 goals vs Liverpool, the Brighton game was a total shit show, something I've never seen Martial do.

 

[JPRouve]

The issue is that he has seemingly stopped growing. These problems at 17 seem to still exist at 22.

Sometimes, I fear that he will forever be the player with so much potential but never manage to live up to it.

He didn't had a problem at 17-18 years old and he made a huge leap the following year. Ranieri isn't talking about a problem here, he is talking about the tools to be one of the best players in the world, Ranieri talks about how you become a "champion".

 

[RedTillI'mDead]

The issue is that he has seemingly stopped growing. These problems at 17 seem to still exist at 22.

Sometimes, I fear that he will forever be the player with so much potential but never manage to live up to it.

Some people think Rooney didn't reach his potential, but it's all relative.

Martial might not reach his potential and still be a top player

 

[Ban]

I'm not an ITK but I've met a couple of interesting people recently with very close links to Martial and a coach at United who I'll keep anonymous. The link to Martial is more solid and direct but I trust both of these sources. It's not anything particularly revolutionary but I thought I'd pass it on.

The coach finds Mourinho very difficult to deal with ('pain in the arse' was a phrase used, I believe) and knows several other staff members who feel the same way. This is in great contrast to Fergie who almost everyone absolutely loved.

Martial definitely has big problems with Jose (it's obvious I suppose). My contact also said he expects Martial to leave. This is a very good source close to the player. I won't mention who because it would breach personal trust. Sorry to be vague and I certainly don't want Mourinho to fail. We all probably have people in our work places who wouldn't speak highly of us and those are not always fair opinions but I worry with Jose that there's a little too much smoke around the club and that a big fire is due.

My contact says it's the other way around.

 

[Jojo <3 Mou]

Some people think Rooney didn't reach his potential, but it's all relative.

Martial might not reach his potential and still be a top player

If he gets close to the level Rooney achieved, I'd say that's an excellent achievement. If he maintains his current form and productivity then selling him would be an excellent decision.

Yes, there are many levels in between. Can he improve? I'm interested to know what it is about him about him convinces people that he can be better? Or, are you currently satisfied by what he is showing?

 

[JPRouve]

If he gets close to the level Rooney achieved, I'd say that's an excellent achievement. If he maintains his current form and productivity then selling him would be an excellent decision.

Yes, there are many levels in between. Can he improve? I'm interested to know what it is about him about him convinces people that he can be better? Or, are you currently satisfied by what he is showing?

His current productivity is good but there is lot of room for improvement. Now can he improve? Yes. Will he improve? Maybe, lots of top players were in a similar situation at the same age, players like Ribery, Higuain, Griezmann. People seem to have a distorted idea about when most players put everything together, 22-23 isn't when you are in your prime, you are still trying to figure things out.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Is he back in training?

 

[podurban2]

Is he back in training?

They have just put together old footage. You know, it’s not even 5am in the West Coast.

 

[acnumber9]

What was Martial's contributions? He was on the bench for some reasons Mourinho applies for certain players, while Alexis served shit on the stick football and started week in week out.

Just to point out, since Alexis arrived, he played 1049 minutes, Martial played 495 minutes. Just before that Spurs away shambles Martial had 3 goals and 1 assist in January, Alexis came in and went in on LW immediately, while Martial was shifted to RW where he had a poor game like everyone, including Alexis who went into the team because he was the new shiny toy, and in the mean time it disrupted the only functional wing we had until than. In the next 2 games Martial firstly played 13 minutes as a CF against Hudersfield and 90minutes again vs Newcastle as a RW, in a game where Alexis was as dreadful as everybody, but remained in the team.

As a contrast Alexis scored 3 fecking goals post January, what a return that was. And just to mention it, the one game you mentioned vs Chelsea, where Martial started LW and Alexis RW, Martial assisted for one of the goals. Then he missed two games through injury, and the next two games was benched due to whatever reason Mourinho found it. He started some games where Alexis was absent or was his sub when he was back available. Rashford had a disastrous season, despite his 2 goals vs Liverpool, the Brighton game was a total shit show, something I've never seen Martial do.

What games did Martial play well in after the game against Burnley? He started 3 of our 4 league games after Sanchez signed and played shit and half arsed in all of them.

Rashford, who was disastrous all season scored 13 and had 9 assists. Martial, who has been awfully and unfairly treated scored 11 and had 9 assists. Logic.

If you haven’t seen Martial have shit shows I suggest an optician.

Nobody is denying Sanchez was shit. Despite how shit Sanchez was he was still playing better than Martial. And actually tried. Which helps.

 

[Jojo <3 Mou]

His current productivity is good but there is lot of room for improvement. Now can he improve? Yes. Will he improve? Maybe, lots of top players were in a similar situation at the same age, players like Ribery, Higuain, Griezmann. People seem to have a distorted idea about when most players put everything together, 22-23 isn't when you are in your prime, you are still trying to figure things out.

Thanks for answering my questions.

I think him being so young is one of the best advantages he has. He's going to have to put in a lot of work to improve the weaker areas of his game. I think he's too one dimensional hence a bit predictable. He needs to add more to his game and just improve his work rate and consistency.

I hope he's willing to work. At the moment, he seems to think that he is ready. He needs someone who he trusts and listens to around him guiding him.

I think that he can improve but that's more hope that expectation.

 

[Cassidy]

What games did Martial play well in after the game against Burnley? He started 3 of our 4 league games after Sanchez signed and played shit and half arsed in all of them.

Rashford, who was disastrous all season scored 13 and had 9 assists. Martial, who has been awfully and unfairly treated scored 11 and had 9 assists. Logic.

If you haven’t seen Martial have shit shows I suggest an optician.

Nobody is denying Sanchez was shit. Despite how shit Sanchez was he was still playing better than Martial. And actually tried. Which helps.

The main issue I have is that every single one of our attacking players do.

 

[Escobar]

He was selected for the French squad during this previous season, while he was rotating with Rashford. Then Alexis came was given the LW, Martial moved to RW and dropped after 1-2 poor performances. While Alexis started week after week. His attitude was fine when he was treated fairly.

He was ok. Some very good games, but also horrible games. IMO, a player cant always hope to get a tap on the back

 

[Escobar]

And it's simply because he isn't good enough, it has nothing to do with attitude. For France Martial is competing with top players that fit better together, not everyone can do what Mbappé did and simply fit where it's needed, that's why people on the caf complain every single time they see Deschamps's selection, they don't take into consideration how players fit together, players like Martial and Lacazette were bad fit, maybe it will be different in the future.
At United it's different, the club chose Martial, in theory they knew what his tools were and in theory you build a team around your players tools, it's not like a national team where you are limited by the national pool. United could easily use a left inside forward, we wasted millions trying to build a team that didn't suit our players and then we blame them for not fitting, it's extremely stupid.

It actually has - one reason why he didnt play was his attitude in games, lack of movement or work rate. Hence Jose didnt trust him enough. I just dont buy that it's all Jose and Martial is totally innocent.

 

[djembatheking]

Seems that a lot of Martial fans think he is going to be a world class player one day .
He is obviously not happy here and would like a move .
Why are there no top managers from big clubs chasing him ? Surely someone should be trying to snap up a future world class player ? Says it all really .

 

[acnumber9]

The main issue I have is that every single one of our attacking players do.

Well that’s a different debate. He’s the only that plays like he couldn’t give less of a shit though.

 

[JPRouve]

It actually has - one reason why he didnt play was his attitude in games, lack of movement or work rate. Hence Jose didnt trust him enough. I just dont buy that it's all Jose and Martial is totally innocent.

You talked about France, for France it had nothing to do with his attitude. As for the second point, I didn't say that it was on José nor that it wasn't on Martial. For me it's on both, the player needs to improve on his weaknesses and the manager needs to help him and put him in roles that maximize his strength instead of exposing his weaknesses. It's the same thing with Lukaku, who isn't a target man, he thrives on movement and quick attacks. The role of a manager is to put players in the absolute best context.

 

[tenpoless]

My views on him still haven't changed. He's a very talented player but is still far from "making it". I saw him as a potential when We signed him and I still do. I won't rewrite history to say He's a shit player, He did have some discipline issues when He was younger but so did a lot of good players. He's certainly good enough but still far away from being considered a world class or very important to our squad.

Now that it has come to this, if He wants to leave We should try to get as much money (or even a swap deal) as We can from his transfer and We move on. No reason to keep a player that doesn't want to play for us... just don't sell him to another PL team.

 

[Escobar]

You talked about France, for France it had nothing to do with his attitude. As for the second point, I didn't say that it was on José nor that it wasn't on Martial. For me it's on both, the player needs to improve on his weaknesses and the manager needs to help him and put him in roles that maximize his strength instead of exposing his weaknesses. It's the same thing with Lukaku, who isn't a target man, he thrives on movement and quick attacks. The role of a manager is to put players in the absolute best context.

You might have missed my point then. It is mainly Martial's fault that he lost his place for United and France. I'm not saying Jose is doing everything right, but Martial's poor form and poor attitude are the main reason he does not play as much as he wants to. Hence I cant agree with those who blame Jose for Martials situation

 

[SparkedIntoLife]

lol sure. You have not just one, but two insider links into Old Trafford, who just happen to be in each camp?

I actually do (to my surprise). I spent half an hour yesterday chatting with a professional footballer which was also a surprise.

It's not like I've shared anything ridiculous. It's not like I said something like 'my friend's dog's nan's pet orangutan's lover gave Ed Woodward a pedicure and he told her we're signing Lozano for 35.6M, Skiriniar for 68.25M plus add ons and Bruma for 45M who Mourinho intends to convert into a left back. Oh, and we're getting Go Compare as our next sponsors with the annoying opera singer as our next manager'.

I'm not sure of this mindset of anything vaguely ITK > let's question their integrity. Sometimes people do hear good info, you know.

 

[Kostov]

What games did Martial play well in after the game against Burnley? He started 3 of our 4 league games after Sanchez signed and played shit and half arsed in all of them.

Rashford, who was disastrous all season scored 13 and had 9 assists. Martial, who has been awfully and unfairly treated scored 11 and had 9 assists. Logic.

If you haven’t seen Martial have shit shows I suggest an optician.

Nobody is denying Sanchez was shit. Despite how shit Sanchez was he was still playing better than Martial. And actually tried. Which helps.

Did you not see the number of minutes Alexis played compared to Martial? I suggest you find that same optician. That Chelsea game was as I said the only game where Alexis was available and Martial still started and had a good game actually, and we won, Martial registering an Assist. Then there are those Sevilla matches where Martial played a grand total of some 23 minutes while Alexis was stinking the place.

And comparing just the stats of Rashford and Martial, won't tell the story of Rashford also deputizing for Lukaku, playing more minutes and half of those as a CF also, which of course is a factor don't you think?

I have seen shit shows from both of them, and I expect something like that from young players. But as I said that shit show against Brighton from Rashford if it was Martial, would have caused some of you brandishing him worse than Balloteli on here. That tells the whole story, and no it's not something you probably have against Martial, but because of the narrative formed by most who follow and defend Jose's decisions. If he had a problem with Rashford, the same people would be on him brandishing him with attitude problems and what not.

 

[Kostov]

The main issue I have is that every single one of our attacking players do.

At least Martial and Rashford have the youth as excuse, what about the others? People ignore that small fact.

 

[tenpoless]

I'm not an ITK but I've met a couple of interesting people recently with very close links to Martial and a coach at United who I'll keep anonymous. The link to Martial is more solid and direct but I trust both of these sources. It's not anything particularly revolutionary but I thought I'd pass it on.

The coach finds Mourinho very difficult to deal with ('pain in the arse' was a phrase used, I believe) and knows several other staff members who feel the same way. This is in great contrast to Fergie who almost everyone absolutely loved.

Martial definitely has big problems with Jose (it's obvious I suppose). My contact also said he expects Martial to leave. This is a very good source close to the player. I won't mention who because it would breach personal trust. Sorry to be vague and I certainly don't want Mourinho to fail. We all probably have people in our work places who wouldn't speak highly of us and those are not always fair opinions but I worry with Jose that there's a little too much smoke around the club and that a big fire is due.

I'm also not an ITK but my contact said last week if We'll sign Bale, Modric and Sandro before next season begins. Bale because He missed Fish and Chips, Modric because Madrid is too sunny for him and Sandro because He's #1 Ed Woodward fan who's also a really good friend with Mr. Louis Van Gaal, They ate at Mr. Wings together when Sandro had his birthday 2 years ago. But unfortunately my source is dead now... He's my old Cable modem, I had to find a replacement for him.

 

[acnumber9]

Did you not see the number of minutes Alexis played compared to Martial? I suggest you find that same optician. That Chelsea game was as I said the only game where Alexis was available and Martial still started and had a good game actually, and we won, Martial registering an Assist. Then there are those Sevilla matches where Martial played a grand total of some 23 minutes while Alexis was stinking the place.

And comparing just the stats of Rashford and Martial, won't tell the story of Rashford also deputizing for Lukaku, playing more minutes and half of those as a CF also, which of course is a factor don't you think?

I have seen shit shows from both of them, and I expect something like that from young players. But as I said that shit show against Brighton from Rashford if it was Martial, would have caused some of you brandishing him worse than Balloteli on here. That tells the whole story, and no it's not something you probably have against Martial, but because of the narrative formed by most who follow and defend Jose's decisions. If he had a problem with Rashford, the same people would be on him brandishing him with attitude problems and what not.

I did. What relevance has that got with anything I said? I acknowledged that Sanchez was shit but that as a new signing of his pedigree there isn’t a manager in the world who wouldn’t have persevered with him for at least a few months. Can you imagine the criticism Mourinho would’ve got for not giving him a chance from this not obsessed with Martial? Truth still remains that as poor as Sanchez was he still played better than Martial from February on. Which gives a clear indication of how useless he was. In the interim period he refuses to sign a contract and makes it known he wants to leave. Why wouldn’t Mourinho then favour players who don’t want to leave?

After the Chelsea game where Martial supposedly played so well, can’t say I remember that way myself but sure, he got injured. During that injury Rashford was the match winner against Liverpool so common sense dictates that he went ahead in the pecking order again. Any chance Martial got after that he was shit until he had a good cameo off the bench against Arsenal and got his chance to start again. And then he was shit again.

You think half of Rashford’s minutes were up front? Maybe we need a double appointment at that optician. You make excuses for Martial having to play in a different position in two games while Rashford has been moved between three positions for two years?

Your last paragraph is utter nonsense. People have eyes and can see work rate on a football pitch. They can also read newspapers when a players agents is telling anyone who will listen that the player wants to leave or cries that he has to change his shirt number. Perhaps you need to ask the question why there is no report of Rashford having a bad attitude. And whether there is a correlation between application and opportunity.

 

[JPRouve]

You might have missed my point then. It is mainly Martial's fault that he lost his place for United and France. I'm not saying Jose is doing everything right, but Martial's poor form and poor attitude are the main reason he does not play as much as he wants to

And I'm simply telling you that for France it's not the case, he never owned a place for France. So when people use that against him(that he lost a place), they are just making things up. Martial for France has mainly been a substitute, when he starts it's generally with the second group of players where Deschamps tries a different system or different players, he never had a place, iirc he started 2 official games for France.

 

[Eugenius]

Maybe some of the Chelsea fans on here can shed some insight.

Curious to see the parallels with how people on here are reacting to Martial and how similar situations played out with Lukaku and De Bruyne.

As far as I can tell with Lukaku, he couldn't break into the team ahead of a past it Torres, Eto'o and Demba Ba. Mourinho then signed Costa the following season and then he left. Mourinho then slated him for not having the mentality to compete to be 1st choice. Ironically Jose now loves his mentality.

Looking back, one of Fergie's big strength was knowing who to prod and provoke (Rooney) and who to put an arm around (Nani and even Ronaldo at times early on). I think Martial falls into the latter category - I think Jose and Martial have to meet both ways for his talent to be realised. Unfortunately it seems that's not going to happen.

 

[iHicksy]

I actually do (to my surprise). I spent half an hour yesterday chatting with a professional footballer which was also a surprise.

It's not like I've shared anything ridiculous. It's not like I said something like 'my friend's dog's nan's pet orangutan's lover gave Ed Woodward a pedicure and he told her we're signing Lozano for 35.6M, Skiriniar for 68.25M plus add ons and Bruma for 45M who Mourinho intends to convert into a left back. Oh, and we're getting Go Compare as our next sponsors with the annoying opera singer as our next manager'.

I'm not sure of this mindset of anything vaguely ITK > let's question their integrity. Sometimes people do hear good info, you know.

Not being funny, but it's not like you're a Journalist so why don't you just say who it is then? You're an anonymous name on a small internet forum. It's not going to be on the back pages of the Sun come Weds "SPARKEDINTO LIFE REVEALS CONVERSATION WTIH 'XXXX' ON REDCAFE.NET". Otherwise, no offense, it comes across as attention seeking.

 

[kouroux]

You might have missed my point then. It is mainly Martial's fault that he lost his place for United and France. I'm not saying Jose is doing everything right, but Martial's poor form and poor attitude are the main reason he does not play as much as he wants to. Hence I cant agree with those who blame Jose for Martials situation

Martial was never nailed down for France. He was part of the latest squads before the WC so it was shaping up well for him until he had a terrible performance. The kinda performance if your place is nailed down, the manager would easily forgive you.

 

[flappyjay]

What a load of shete

That's what I said. How gullible does he think we are.