Its a big blow for us. On the other hand it could also be a blessing in disguise. If Martial leaves then we can move Rashford as LW to become Sanchez cover/competition. That would allow us to invest heavily on the RW.
Martial | Di Marzio thinks he will stay
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Eh, I didn't even mentioned Jose
Are we still that Manchester Utd?
The last time we actually had young players becoming undisputed starters for us was over a decade ago.
As for privilege, no less of a privilege it is to play for Juve, Bayern or the Spanish giants, who, you know, actually win stuffs.
Young players can be content, for a while, being part of a winning machine, before they start thinking about their own development. In the case of Martial, he’s winning feck all (of note), and his development is being hampered. How then does ‘having no balls’ have anything to do with him wanting to further his own career? People bring up Ronaldo or Rooney to say that he is nowhere near them at the same age, yet it was partly because Fergie had the trust in them to get rid of RvN, mollycoddled Ronaldo on various occasions and defend Rooney over all of his indiscretions like granny shagging, that they were better players aged 22 than he is.
You didn't. There is a clear pattern, those who are very vocal with supporting Jose are the ones who are very vocal with shitting on players.
11 goals, 10 assists already this season with limited game time and all that "doesn´t fit the system", "only second choice" factors. Jose needs to consider this.
Please don´t sell him for something like "Martial leaves Manchester United in 41M move to ..."
Worth 70M at least.
And as someone before mentioned, exactly this would be Joses Salah/De Bruyne fail-moment again, just with another name. So obvious that he will be a world beater everywhere else.
Remember we paid 50M (!) for him and he´s still that young. His time will come, i just hope he is still here then.
Please don´t sell him for something like "Martial leaves Manchester United in 41M move to ..."
Worth 70M at least.
And as someone before mentioned, exactly this would be Joses Salah/De Bruyne fail-moment again, just with another name. So obvious that he will be a world beater everywhere else.
Remember we paid 50M (!) for him and he´s still that young. His time will come, i just hope he is still here then.
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It'll be absolutely shit if we lose Martial. He's one of very few players in our squad with absolute world class talent. Obviously, he's inconsistent, but he's young. Massive mistake if we let him go.
I was delighted we signed Sanchez but I think I'll resent both Sanchez and Mourinho for the rest of their time at United if we lose Martial. There is absolutely no doubt he'll be a top player wherever he goes.
I was delighted we signed Sanchez but I think I'll resent both Sanchez and Mourinho for the rest of their time at United if we lose Martial. There is absolutely no doubt he'll be a top player wherever he goes.
Maybe a cheeky swap with Ousmane Dembele?
It will never happen but it would be awesome if we can. Dembele is also right winger so we will be sorted.
Poor Jose.
BS. I don't see anyone saying this and it doesn't make any sense as well.
I can see why Martial and Rashford are not happy at the sub roles, and they shouldnt be. No player should. On the other hand, their performance has been too mixed this season once more so they can demand to start games.
Anyhow, the problem is that another young talented player might leave Jose, where you wonder why he just cant find a way to settle them in
Anyhow, the problem is that another young talented player might leave Jose, where you wonder why he just cant find a way to settle them in
Best option for us is to send him on loan to a club like Juventus. He will get more games and we can decide when his loan period is up.
This keeps everybody happy. He's too good and too young to be sold at the first time of asking.
This keeps everybody happy. He's too good and too young to be sold at the first time of asking.
He just got here!
Well yes, obviously. But he has reportedly refused to sign a new deal and intimated that he wants to leave this summer. So we have two options, 1) sell him, or 2) keep him against his will and let him run his contract down. Which option are you in favour of?
Not fussed at all, if you don't want to be here chap then toodle-oo. Enjoy the rest of your career, we've got bigger fish to fry and hangers-on are not welcome.
People actling like Rashford is as good or as talented as Martial 
Hopefully this is true and not some made up clickbaits. I'm excited to see how he will do somewhere else, and I wonder who the club will chase as a replacement.
he isnt but you sound like he is miles apart, which he is not. Mind you I want both to stay.People actling like Rashford is as good or as talented as Martial
On the flip side, neither rooney nor Ronaldo ended up ineffective when played in a different position, didn’t cry when not given a run in the position they want to be in. Even nani without complaint played on both flanks.
Ah I see, you’re right.
It doesn’t seem to me there’s spots for grabs for him.
Umtiti was dog shit yesterday against a physical striker in dzeko. Maybe just a bad game but apart from smalling we dont have great headers of the ball and physical players in defense. Maybe we hold of on him for now.
I dont think Martial will leave though, he just wants more money, same for pogba .
Obviously it's not a popular opinion, but I really don't think he's progressed enough to warrant a starting place. He's pretty good coming on as a sub, but more often than not, when he's started he's not been that great. And...allegedly he doesn't want to be a sub, which is fair enough. So really there is only one thing to do, sell him and get some decent cash for him. He's not a Keane, Cantona, Robson and certainly not a Ronaldo. I actually don't think he'll become a world-class star. He might start off well but will slip back into his general state. Interestingly, he's never been the same since his personal life crashed!
Chances are it's true but things can change if we refuse to sell him and manage to convince him about his role and future game time , if he goes most probably he would do really well .
We won't bring in his replacement per say this summer at least not a player to play on left but couple of years down the line or sooner if Sanchez doesn't perform as expected and when we realise Rashford isn't good enough to be regular left forward for us then we would certainly splash the cash and reminisce about what could have been if Martial is a success elsewhere.
Rashford stats are amazing considering that he's being played out of position. He might not be as talented as Martial there again he's more suited to our system then him. I thought we've learned that talent isn't everything when we replaced Tevez with some lazy Bulgarian striker
I'd often agree with this, but in the case of Martial I think it goes beyond just the money. The world cup snub is coming, and it's going to be the penny dropped.
You don't think he wants to play more?
Rose has barely played football over the past year he is injury prone. We have enough of those at United
There's one on the right until Sanchez is getting on, which is a few seasons off. If he impressed there he could have a reasonable claim for starting there or up front eventually.
McTominay and Rashford are being brought through as we speak. Other younger players that weren't the finished article have had lots of opportunities and only not become starters because they've failed to impress or been injured (Shaw/Jones off the top of my head).
Lingard is almost a starter as things stand.
Both Rooney and Ronaldo played all over the place and put a shift in.
There's opportunity, but if he wants out rather than fighting for it then I think no balls is a good summary.
I'm in favour of giving him more game time.
Play him more often its very obvious what the issue is
I am not too sure about that. Dembele is struggling with Barcelona so they might want to sell him up. There's some decent players coming up the ranks like Under at Roma and Neres at Ajax. We should have a look at them
Martial stats this season are better than Rashford and according to you Rashford is more suited to the system but also playing out of position so how does it work , I have no issues with us selling Martial but once Sanchez declines we would need to dip in the market because Rashford is not the solution for our problems out wide.
Rashford has decent stats despite playing out of position. One assumes he'll do better if we play him in the correct position.
Look if Martial wants to leave then there's little we can do. Hopefully through the money we get we'll be able to get the player we really need ie RW.
Not the best situation since he his a very useful squad player, not that bad either if we get a club record breaking transfer. Never lived to the price tag expectactions imho, and bare in mind that we spent a fortune on him a couple of years before the market fees crazy frenzy.
We signed a very young keeper less than a decade ago and he's a nailed on starter and possibly the best in the world. So let's have the truth out there, not wrong opinions.
Rest of your post is balls as well, Martial has probably won more than Liverpool/ Spurs squad. Plenty of players are happy to fight for a place those are the characters every manager wants in a team. Martial is in contract negotiations and these stories will be out there until something is agreed. If he wishes to go then, so be it. Maybe Martial should take a leaf out of Dave's book, see off all the competition and excel, rather than sulk and run.
I'm hoping it's just the agent forcing our hand, but he isn't playing regularly right now which is a worry.
He's too good to lose, I just wish Jose would give him more games. I will be majorly pissed off if he does leave as he will be a star for any other team IMO, he's that good.
He's too good to lose, I just wish Jose would give him more games. I will be majorly pissed off if he does leave as he will be a star for any other team IMO, he's that good.
So option 2, then.
Mourinho has generally said that if a player wants to leave, he won't stand in their way. A summer sale looks like the most likely outcome.
As a player, I'm not sure that the best way to get a positive reaction out of Mourinho is to threaten to leave the club if he doesn't do what you want.