He didn't use the words "form" though. For me its about giving him one more chance with a fresh season and see how it goes.
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He didn't use the words "form" though. For me its about giving him one more chance with a fresh season and see how it goes.
Not at all. We have enough players to not need Martial even without Rashford, and 50m pounds are more important - we can buy a midfielder with these monies
Well that might be true, and I might agree with you, but in the market Lukaku is worth a lot more.
I am no fan of Lukaku myself and certainly have backed Martial's potential. But in actual performances, won't agree with "miles better". Anyways neither have done what a Manchester United striker should do, Cavani has amply showed that.
At least we have moved up to 50 million from 35 which is progress from the cafe.
Imo my huge worry is that next season we cant get rid of him, this might be a rare opportunity to ditch him. I would hate having him in the squad for years just because we can't offload him.
what is more, we need to discontinue relying on “good” players here. Just good is not good enough for United - and Martial is paid as a star player, not as a rotation option. He is obviously not good enough for his salary level
very good pointWe'd be playing Sancho - Cavani - Greenwood every game without the luxury of rotating them. Cavani probably can't play every game and Greenwood is still a youngster. The only players we have to rotate with them are the likes of Dan James and Amad. While we could probably make do with that depth, having Martial as an option definitely boosts us, and still gives us the competition we need for those front three positions.
How come? We will play Pogba off the left on a regular basis, to start with.
Then there are also such players as Lingard, Amad and (if not sold) James who can get some minutes every now and then, maybe even Hannibal and Elanga. We didn’t sell Mata either…
100%. Lack of rotation was what made us trail off last season - still need Martial
Sell him, you don't keep players that have consistently gone through long periods of bad form. I'd rather give his minutes to Amad, Elanga.
Chances are he has another poor season and we'd have to sell for a reduced fee.
Chances are he has another poor season and we'd have to sell for a reduced fee.
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I'd take £50 million for him. That's most of what we paid for him, which is great in this Covid era where no one's got any money.
Think people are forgetting this.
Crazy the underrating of Martial here. 'Barely looks like a footballer'? . Wow.
Selling an experienced PL league only to play young kids in his place would be absolute madness. Ole is excellent at blooding youth. They need to be given chances, without the weight of massive expectation. People on the caf would sell a massively talented player with years of experience, who can play LW or CF, and leave us an injury or two away from playing a forward line of James/elanga, Greenwood and Amad ?
They are all good players to different degrees, even James in my opinion, but it isn't the kind of forward line that will have the likes of Chelsea and City defence shitting themselves.
Selling an experienced PL league only to play young kids in his place would be absolute madness. Ole is excellent at blooding youth. They need to be given chances, without the weight of massive expectation. People on the caf would sell a massively talented player with years of experience, who can play LW or CF, and leave us an injury or two away from playing a forward line of James/elanga, Greenwood and Amad ?
They are all good players to different degrees, even James in my opinion, but it isn't the kind of forward line that will have the likes of Chelsea and City defence shitting themselves.
I did, tbf.
He’s going nowhere this season but he can go next season when we get Haaland 
I doubt Martial leaves them shitting themselves either to be honest...
When they see Martial's name on the teamsheet, them defenders know there's a good chance of a relaxed day. No need to run too much.
I think it's because we all wouldn't want that to be the case in our ideal lineups, but the reality is that is where he fits in our side with Bruno.
50m for Tony. I would personally drive him to Italy and deliver him for that.
If Inter pay 50m for Martial I'll eat several hats. Can't see it.
Its not guaranteed we'll keep Pogba this summer, and if he stays I don't get the impression he'd be played on the left anyway. It looks like we'll be playing a 4-3-3 next season, so Pogba will almost certainly be playing as an 8. James and Mata will be bench options at best, Lingard will be sold if he get a decent offer.
Pogba has been playing exactly the same way since before Bruno, hence people calling him lazy at times. Same with Martial. We've had people who put in tons of effort since before Bruno, like Fred, Rashford, James, etc.
He was excellent last season against City. Best player on the pitch in that game.
Pogba is more efficient off the left in this setup
Yep its laughable, i very much doubt anyone would buy him for £30m. I would happily sell for £25m at this stage if someone were willing to take on his massive wage otherwise he is just going to be more deadwood
He had one good game all season and was otherwise atrocious
If Rashford was fit then I'd say this could happen but he's out for a while and we don't have suitable cover.
I'd be the camp of giving him another season, if he has one like he did last season then show him the door next summer.
I'd be the camp of giving him another season, if he has one like he did last season then show him the door next summer.
And you have Cavani as your only CF option? How many games can he play?
Because bad as Martial has been, he is our only other CF option as he has actually performed well in that role beyond more than a couple of games, whereas no other one of our players (apart from Cavani) seem remotely comfortable in that position.
Martial out, Kane in??
Best Summer for sure, Spurs want Martinez from Inter for 60M but player is not keen hope we convince Spurs to give us Kane for Martial+60-70M
We have Greenwood, how will play more games as a CF now, with Sancho in the team.
Anyone who is willing to pay 50m for him… we should just sell.
At 250k, and despite 5 years with us, still can’t establish and be trusted as our main striker…I don’t know why we would want to keep him….
Put that money back to get a proper CDM so we can have Pogba, Sancho and Fernandes in one team.
yes we will be short specially when Rashford is out, wondering if there is a 12 month loan available somewhere (of course getting Kane would be perfect but Martial won’t go to a non CL club and I am sure Spurs won’t match his salary).
Together we Cavani, Greenwood we should be fine till Rashford come back. Another short term option would be great though !
Next year add, Halland and another top player and we would-be ready to win PL
At 250k, and despite 5 years with us, still can’t establish and be trusted as our main striker…I don’t know why we would want to keep him….
Put that money back to get a proper CDM so we can have Pogba, Sancho and Fernandes in one team.
yes we will be short specially when Rashford is out, wondering if there is a 12 month loan available somewhere (of course getting Kane would be perfect but Martial won’t go to a non CL club and I am sure Spurs won’t match his salary).
Together we Cavani, Greenwood we should be fine till Rashford come back. Another short term option would be great though !
Next year add, Halland and another top player and we would-be ready to win PL
Martial at Inter - 20 goals a season guaranteed. I'd bet my favourite child on it. Then they sell him to PSG £100mil in 2 years...........
So? It’s flawed logic to expect a player to do badly at a new club when we try to sell him for good money - simply because (usually) the buyer understands if a player fits new system or not.
I would not be happy with our CF options being a relatively old Cavani, Greenwood who is yet to really impress in that position, or Rashford who's not great there. It's not even close to being enough for a title challenge, never mind a deep run in the CL as well.
Martial leaving only makes sense if we are getting Kane or preferably Haaland.
Martial leaving only makes sense if we are getting Kane or preferably Haaland.
Please explain to me how a statement like the following can be considered as anything but an outright lie.
"if he doesn't score a single goal come winter it'll be like a typical Martial season"
I'll save you some time, this has never happened.
You've now suggested we bring in Hugill, someone who's never even made a match day squad as our back up striker. You've said Rashford is ok cover at CF, which is bullshit because he's a fecking terrible striker. Greenwood is a great talent but has shown nothing to suggest he's good enough up top yet.
You realise that we're trying to challenge for the league, right? You think that's possible with Cavani, who can only play 1 game a week and a bunch of lads who range from terrible to unproven?
You're in fecking la la land.