Martial agent looking for a new club for him

Rashford out, Cavani at 35 is hardly going to bag 20+ goals a season now, Greenwood still too young to take all that pressure. Doesn’t make sense to let him go unless we have a replacement lined up.
 
CG1010 said:
In terms of actual performance, Lukaku has far surpassed Martial even though Martial is obviously more talented footballer. Goes to show that talent isn't everything in football.
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Not for Utd though!
 
50 mil would be a good price but would seem almost negligent to sell him without a replacement, and given I’m pretty sure our number one target next season is Haaland, I don’t see why you sell or bring someone in who wouldn’t necessarily be an improvement.
 
If Lingard is back and in plans, it makes perfect sense to play Greenwood as a full time striker. I'd happily sell Martial if the right offer came in, to strengthen defensive midfield.
 
elmo said:
Because Lukaku is more proven and Martial only has 1 season where he's performing better than Lukaku.
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Lukaku is 28 and has hit average goalscoring returns in most seasons. What was it before he left? 12 in 30+ games in the league? Well, average is not the right word… but for 100M you don’t want to buy stable, decent or whatever. Chris Wood scored more goals last year than Lukaku did for us in his last season.

Guess the price for Martial is fair given his low status right now and the fact that United are horrible at hiding just that. Lukaku however, the price is ridiculous and way too high for a heavy 28 year old and the notion that he’s going to struggle with keeping levels once he turns 30. Last part is entirely my opinion of course, but he has had a long career and is so big, I struggle to see how he’s going to stay as agile and fresh - we’ll see.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
What are you talking about?

Goals last 5 seasons

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Pointless comparison. He played left wing for the three seasons before he scored those 23.

Anyway, Inter are not going to sell their best player because of financial troubles, then spend over half of that money to replace him. I also don’t see Ole wanting to sell with Rashford being out. We’d be a Cavani injury away from Greenwood playing every game until Rashford came back.
 
Let's not forget he's on 250k/week. Nobody else will pay that to Martial, not with the effort he's putting out on the pitch.
 
I won't believe any story i read on paper until he's gone, i strongly believe he's more valuable to us at the moment than the 50m quoted, we need him more than we need the money, If not for anything but for the reason that Rashford is out.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
If Lingard is back and in plans, it makes perfect sense to play Greenwood as a full time striker. I'd happily sell Martial if the right offer came in, to strengthen defensive midfield.
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Exactly, this money could be used to strengthen the squad and give 3 players an opportunity (Amad, Elanga, Shoretire). If the first two aren't going on loan, with James and Lingard likely not having any suitors, they will have a huge opportunity to claim a spot in the team.
 
Eplel said:
Let's not forget he's on 250k/week. Nobody else will pay that to Martial, not with the effort he's putting out on the pitch.
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Please stop perpetuating this. He is on 180k a week. The 250k comes from end of year bonuses if targets are met which is then broken down over a weekly fee so people like us can wrap their heads around it and it sounds more dramatic. Many many many players are on deals like this. What we hear from papers is the exaggerated and maximum fee they could earn in a year.
 
50m would be a good fee.
He's had more than just promise over over years but has frustrated as much as delighted.
And most importantly, isn't quite a winger and isn't quite a striker.


But don't sell him now. Not with Rashy out for months , Cavani maybe not 100% and Sancho still to bed in.
 
Lash said:
Exactly, this money could be used to strengthen the squad and give 3 players an opportunity (Amad, Elanga, Shoretire). If the first two aren't going on loan, with James and Lingard likely not having any suitors, they will have a huge opportunity to claim a spot in the team.
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How sure are you those players you mention can scare opposition like Martial would? We lay too much emphasis on young players, hype them up to shit, I've watched all of those players an none of them can even perform to Martial's level on his day, we shouldn't sell Martial unless we have another striker lined up, or else we'll be in the same situation as we were when we let Lukaku go, good clubs sign before letting players go.
 
I guess I'd sell for £50m, even though I'm still hopeful he can become a top player.
 
snk123 said:
Just gossip along with people repeating the same thing (he's shit) over and over for 38 pages.
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Thanks. He definitely had a very poor season last year. I have a feeling he gonna be important for us this season tough. He had a good rest, should be motivated and should take his chance now that Rashford is injured for some months. Selling him for 50 million makes no sense at all. Players like James and Lingard should be moved on first.
 
izak said:
How sure are you those players you mention can scare opposition like Martial would? We lay too much emphasis on young players, hype them up to shit, I've watched all of those players an none of them can even perform to Martial's level on his day, we shouldn't sell Martial unless we have another striker lined up, or else we'll be in the same situation as we were when we let Lukaku go, good clubs sign before letting players go.
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What's the point in buying those players then if you've got zero plan to integrate them? I'm not exactly piling on the pressure to one player, I'm saying 2 players (Shoretire is not probably ready, but they do rate him highly and still has a chance)- plus James and Lingard, to fight for one spot. Greenwood, Cavani and Rashford for the CF spots is completely fine. Especially when you think we also play Pogba as a LAM.
 
If any decent offer shows up I'd let sell him. Seriously I'd rather loan a striker for a season than rely on Martial, who doesn't look anything close to being match fit anyway.
 
Martial as 2nd choice anything is never motivated, Martial as first choice isn't good enough for any position if we have title aspirations.

Insert customary very talented player though crap here.
 
Not sure how 50 million is a good price when we can't sign a decent CF for that price. There aren't many CFs available, so not sure if we can sign good CF to replace him.
 
kthanksbye said:
Martial as 2nd choice anything is never motivated, Martial as first choice isn't good enough for any position if we have title aspirations.

Insert customary very talented player though crap here.
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Martial as a 2nd choice was very motivated when he won his place vs Rashford as a LW in 2017-18, then he had to do it again in 2018-19 and he did it again too. After that both played in different position and together.
 
Keep him for this season and then send him packing next summer so Haaland can take the 9 shirt
 
I'd take the 50mil and run. A fair offer, all sides happy. Use that money to bring in Trippier and Saul, job done that's our incoming signings sorted.
 
roonster09 said:
Not sure how 50 million is a good price when we can't sign a decent CF for that price. There aren't many CFs available, so not sure if we can sign good CF to replace him.
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If we're targeting a striker next summer, we just need a stop gap loan for one season. So we get the money and experienced, fit striker on a loan. What's the risk? It's not like Martial is ready to play on serious level anyway, he barely looks like a footballer (understandably after a long break, but still).
If Ole sees Martial as the future, then fair enough, but if not - what's the point of refusing an offer to sell?
 
Borys said:
If we're targeting a striker next summer, we just need a stop gap loan for one season. So we get the money and experienced, fit striker on a loan. What's the risk? It's not like Martial is ready to play on serious level anyway, he barely looks like a footballer (understandably after a long break, but still).
If Ole sees Martial as the future, then fair enough, but if not - what's the point of refusing an offer to sell?
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Which player are we going to loan for a CF position, who will be at Martial's level (maybe we have very different views on Martial).

He had shit season and it happens, just a year ago he was a very good CF for us scoring 20+ goals and with very good overall play.
 
£5 million for Tuanzebes loan, about £4.5 million in the sell-on clause for Lukaku - if we can get £50 million for Martial, we have recouped enough to sign a midfielder
 
lysglimt said:
£5 million for Tuanzebes loan, about £4.5 million in the sell-on clause for Lukaku - if we can get £50 million for Martial, we have recouped enough to sign a midfielder
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I think 5 million loan fee includes wages. That's the whole package, Tuanzebe wages + fee for ManUtd.
 
roonster09 said:
Which player are we going to loan for a CF position, who will be at Martial's level (maybe we have very different views on Martial).

He had shit season and it happens, just a year ago he was a very good CF for us scoring 20+ goals and with very good overall play.
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I have no idea who, we need a striker who can add a few goals really. Martial scored 4 goals in 1480 minutes, this is a terrible outcome and honestly we don't even know what happened to him.

Having a random, fit striker for entire season is better than last season Anthony. But - it all depends if we see a future with Martial, if we do than fair enough, but if there are serious doubts than I would sell him. Like mentioned before, it will take weeks, possibly months for him to get up to speed, Cavani isn't ready either, Rashford is out, so it'd be crucial to get ANYBODY for the beggining of the season.
The difference in Martial 19/20 and 20/21 is something I have never seen before in a footballer (without any particular reason that is). This is a big worry.
 
Borys said:
I have no idea who, we need a striker who can add a few goals really. Martial scored 4 goals in 1480 minutes, this is a terrible outcome and honestly we don't even know what happened to him.

Having a random, fit striker for entire season is better than last season Anthony. But - it all depends if we see a future with Martial, if we do than fair enough, but if there are serious doubts than I would sell him. Like mentioned before, it will take weeks, possibly months for him to get up to speed, Cavani isn't ready either, Rashford is out, so it'd be crucial to get ANYBODY for the beggining of the season.
The difference in Martial 19/20 and 20/21 is something I have never seen before in a footballer (without any particular reason that is). This is a big worry.
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Yeah, last season was shit, probably his worst season. But that's wasn't his usual season, so I wouldn't make decision just based on last season.

He has already shown what he is capable of in multiple seasons (his first season and 2019-20 was very good, 2017-18, 2018-19 was good, 2015-16 and 2020-21 was poor).

If we have someone like Haaland lined up, then yes we can sell him. Not without any replacements, Greenwood is not ready to lead the line, Cavani is not young player. So we shouldn't be trimming the options.
 
roonster09 said:
Yeah, last season was shit, probably his worst season. But that's wasn't his usual season, so I wouldn't make decision just based on last season.

He has already shown what he is capable of in multiple seasons (his first season and 2019-20 was very good, 2017-18, 2018-19 was good, 2015-16 and 2020-21 was poor).

If we have someone like Haaland lined up, then yes we can sell him. Not without any replacements, Greenwood is not ready to lead the line, Cavani is not young player. So we shouldn't be trimming the options.
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It is completely beyond me how you can allow for poor form an entire season. What is a new season going to do for him? By the same token, his best season was just a purple patch.
 
Jacob said:
It is completely beyond me how you can allow for poor form an entire season. What is a new season going to do for him? By the same token, his best season was just a purple patch.
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Lets see what a new season will do for him, it's not the first time when players had a poor season and then bounced back. Martial himself did it after his poor season in 2016-17.

If we keep selling players after bad seasons, we would have sold all players by now, including arguably our best player Luke Shaw.
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
Not for Utd though!
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Certainly debatable - both have been quite inconsistent but my opinion is Martial has reached greater heights but greater lows last season, whereas Lukaku was great in that one season.

But Luakaku has done well at striker position before and after United too. Something to consider in their respective price tags.
 
I'd only be happy with this if Haaland is a guarantee next year. £50m is still a decent fee if true, but IMO we still need him more than the money. We'd start looking a bit lightweight up top without him this year.
 
I know life isn't FIFA, but imagine Martial sold for £50million, Griezmann in on season long loan with option to buy, and the money used towards signing a top CDM.

I'd be happy with something like this, even with the question marks surrounding Griezmann since his move to Barca. Would be worth a loan for most clubs looking at a forward if they can afford decent wages.
 
I'd have bitten their hands off for £50million....if Rashford weren't injured. As inconsistent and frustrating as Martial has been, we are going to need him for the opening months of the season.
 
CG1010 said:
Certainly debatable - both have been quite inconsistent but my opinion is Martial has reached greater heights but greater lows last season, whereas Lukaku was great in that one season.

But Luakaku has done well at striker position before and after United too. Something to consider in their respective price tags.
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Nah Lukaku was the worst striker I’ve seen play at this club. Martial is frankly miles better to my mind!
 
Martial was useless last season but in 2019/20 I thought he was better than Lukaku was at any point for us.

If teams are going to happily keep paying £40-50m for Liverpool and Chelsea rejects who've barely had one good game and offer peanuts for our players who have proven their quality before, then feck them all off and just stockpile the talent. I would rather keep Martial in the hope he reproduces his 2019/20 form than let him go for the price of a horse shit sandwich when clubs are happy to help out our rivals by taking their unwanted rubbish.
 
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