Martial agent looking for a new club for him

For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.

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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.

Ouch :lol: And from an Arsenal fan nonetheless

But what you said is true. Midtable clubs need players who run their heart out since they cant compete with the talent of the bigger clubs, cant have lazy sods like Martial stroll around up top.

Even then, Everton, Villa, Arsenal and pretty much everyone in the PL have better players than the current version of Martial. Ask a Leeds fan if they would swap Martial for Bamford or ask a Newcastle fan if they would swap Saint Maximin for Martial and im pretty sure they would laugh in your face
 
Ouch :lol: And from an Arsenal fan nonetheless

But what you said is true. Midtable clubs need players who run their heart out since they cant compete with the talent of the bigger clubs, cant have lazy sods like Martial stroll around up top.

Even then, Everton, Villa, Arsenal and pretty much everyone in the PL have better players than the current version of Martial. Ask a Leeds fan if they would swap Martial for Bamford or ask a Newcastle fan if they would swap Saint Maximin for Martial and im pretty sure they would laugh in your face
we finished 8th for the past 2 season and it is a fact. At this moment Arsenal is a mid table club. We need players to fight for every ball.
 
I think the ideal position for him would be to take the wage cut and try get to a side that play some good football but are lower down in terms of both status and expectation. An Atalanta, Lyon type of vibe. Spend the next 18-24 months raising his CV back up and he's 27 with the stats that are far more appealing to another bigger side.

How realistic that is... Probably not very. We gave him the mental wages, he's entitled to sit on his arse on it. How interested those types of club would be too, eh...

I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
 
I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?

You've answered your own question.

I fully understand why they would stay
 
I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
It is a job at the end of the day with a very short shelf life. £50k fewer might not make him starve, but it’s a lot of fecking money.
 
I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
Money.
If you get 250k pw and by taking a paycut you still get 200k pw, then it seems fine. But if you know when you move out you will get only 100k, maybe bench doesn't look that bad.

Different players, different needs.
 
We'll struggle and his agent will struggle to find any club to take on his 250k a week wages. Even 200k a week is alot.

Unfortunately what will happen is utd will supplement his wages if he goes elsewhere. This club never learns under woodward does it?
 
Barcelona could do with a player capable of producing magic, and we are not asking for that much.
Or throw in a waddle of cash on top and get Frenkie de Jong (not likely I know).

Barcelona have Memphis and Ansu Fati in that position and even if they did not have them they would not go for Martial
 
I always said he was overrated and was always right then 2 seasons ago he looked like he stepped up, was proving me wrong and the caf jumped on me for anytime I criticised him.
But it’s obvious now and even though you can say Mourinho held him back it was one thing he was right about.

He’s so short on confidence and the player we are seeing is not the real him but even the real him isn’t good enough for us and finally he can’t hide behind his age
 
Watching last night was ridiculously frustrating. Surely Tony knows the labelling of him as someone who doesn’t seem to give much of a toss during a game, which you would imagine would propel him to dispel that image. He never seems to do so however. He is becoming more Ozil day by day!
 
Wow, how fickle fans are eh. :lol:

It's been over a year of horrendous performances.

He's been a disgrace.

He's been here long enough now, it's not worked out and he's not the player we thought he would be, we need to move him on. Nothing fickle about that.
 
I would not mind if he was actually playing for United. But in reality, he is just in the starting lineup. Very little actual playing.
Even when playing he has not been playing, how many times have the midfielders tried and send him a ball and he was late?
I am one of those praising Ole for getting more out of players, but Anthony is not one he has succeeded with. It would be best for all that he moves on.
 
I do hope reporter asked such question to Ole: what happened with Martial last season ? Two season ago he was definitely trending toward a proper No.9 for us, and I still can recall his header of typical No.9 style from Wan-Bissaka 's cross against Chelsea which helped us win the game, and his 1st hat-trick against Sheffield United at ease. We can talk about all crap against him for his current terrible form, but it's unfair to say he never was a No.9 material.

If Martial suffered depression or any psychological illness (quite likely caused by the pandemic and social lockdown), this should be a good timing that we release him from duty to properly treat it, and come back with full passion towards the games. From it appeared, Martial has lost passion and indifferent towards the games and results, which is a very typical syndrome of depression. Ole could disclose this so that crowd can stop guessing and harshly criticizing his performance (which could further worsen his case), then give some time and room for his recovery.
 
We stopped being a counter attacking team.

Much more of a lower block played vs us and you need to be quick and on your feet and intelligent to break that.

With his lack of consistent matches and confidence- he isn't going to be able to beat defenders like he used to during the 2 average counter attacks we have a game.
 
It's been over a year of horrendous performances.

He's been a disgrace.

He's been here long enough now, it's not worked out and he's not the player we thought he would be, we need to move him on. Nothing fickle about that.
Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.
 
Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.

It is strong but I do think his lack of interest and effort has been disgraceful at times.

I think back to certain performances, Sheff Utd at home last season in particular, where he looked like he didn't give a feck.
 
Ole needs to drop him for a very long time. Playing him is not doing anyone any favours. It’s just getting in the way of younger players developing
 
Except that I didn't find anything positive about his performance, so please, learn to read before quoting me again. My point is, he has hardly played this season, we fielded a side full of players who have done so. Given that OGS isn't the greatest tactician amongst coaches, it was a game that was destined to fail. Take into account that even at full strength, we were a penalty save away from drawing with this team at the weekend and you have to put player performances into context.
Quite the first post on your part. :)
Mate, no we weren't. We won a game despite a bought off ref. If that's a pen we should've had 2 as well.
 
Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.

Actually, not at all. If you’d spent your hard earned going to Old Trafford watching this charlatan pretend to run around and play football, whilst pocketing 200k a week, you’d actually think the comments are understated. That’s certainly how I’ve felt.
 
I do hope reporter asked such question to Ole: what happened with Martial last season ? Two season ago he was definitely trending toward a proper No.9 for us, and I still can recall his header of typical No.9 style from Wan-Bissaka 's cross against Chelsea which helped us win the game, and his 1st hat-trick against Sheffield United at ease. We can talk about all crap against him for his current terrible form, but it's unfair to say he never was a No.9 material.

If Martial suffered depression or any psychological illness (quite likely caused by the pandemic and social lockdown), this should be a good timing that we release him from duty to properly treat it, and come back with full passion towards the games. From it appeared, Martial has lost passion and indifferent towards the games and results, which is a very typical syndrome of depression. Ole could disclose this so that crowd can stop guessing and harshly criticizing his performance (which could further worsen his case), then give some time and room for his recovery.
He never was no.9 material. Scoring a few goals while playing as a #9 doesn't make you one.
 
He never was no.9 material.

Correct.

Like I've said many times, he's a hybrid - not quite this, not quite that. Which is tricky in itself. It takes just the right kind of system/setup if you want a player like that to shine consistently.

And in many cases, it's clearly not feasible/not worth it - because you'll be better off going for something else.
 
Had a brilliant season. Followed it with an awful season. Then got injured during the summer and struggling for form. Needs to show us something, can still fecking press the defenders when you are in shit form.
 
Fuking hell he's just got to go....simple as

he had one good stretch two seasons ago where he banged in some goals and everyone thought this guy is going to be a good one . Ever since he's just been shit.
 
Would Barcelona be an option? He would need to come down salary wise, but he has more ability than de Jong, it would make him the main man, and he might feel loved and ego stroked out there?