Hmm… I’m not really sure about Martial. One part of me wants to give him another try, another part of me says it’s a nobrainer if we get £40-50m for him.
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Are you actually claiming the other 4 seasons he had good seasons? You say you have not had your opinion on Martial but it is clear that any kind of criticism of him riles you up the wrong way.
You are only embarrassing yourself lad. To have a go at other posters claiming they know little about the club they support or it's players, it's almost like no one can have an opinion if you don't agree with them, right?
See you around.
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When he can be arsed
I must have spent the last 5 summers in the hope that we are about to see the best of Martial. I think he really is running out of time now. I can’t believe he’s going to be 26 soon!
I’ve been waiting 5 years just for him to use his pace and get on the end of a through ball. Sadly, I think he’s going to be a very talented player who never fulfilled his potential.
I’ve been waiting 5 years just for him to use his pace and get on the end of a through ball. Sadly, I think he’s going to be a very talented player who never fulfilled his potential.
The truth is, he has delivered a lot less than is needed in the 5/6 years he’s been here.
He's had 2 bad seasons, 2 good seasons and 2 excellent seasons. Not sure why people feel the need to talk bollocks. If he doesn't perform this season, he should be out, that's my opinion on the matter. What I don't agree with is outright lies about his time here.Are you actually claiming the other 4 seasons he had good seasons? You say you have not had your opinion on Martial but it is clear that any kind of criticism of him riles you up the wrong way.
You are only embarrassing yourself lad. To have a go at other posters claiming they know little about the club they support or it's players, it's almost like no one can have an opinion if you don't agree with them, right?
See you around.
Would you say 10 goals and 10 assists from the wing in half a season is an "absolute stinker"? Would you say 12 goals from the wing in half a season, whilst carrying the team, is an "absolute stinker"? If the answer to either of these questions is no, then you'll have to admit you're talking shit.
2 good seasons? you are taking shit mate. Its clear you can't stand anyone criticising this player. Everyone is talking 'bollocks' and 'shit' because they don't agree with you. Open your eyes.
Unless a silly bid comes in, I'd rather he'd stay for another campaign.
You can not have enough quality in our squad and on his day he is a quality player but he needs to accept that he's likely going to be starting the campaign on the bench.
He'll feature though, no doubt. Its a long season and players need rest or are out injured.
You can not have enough quality in our squad and on his day he is a quality player but he needs to accept that he's likely going to be starting the campaign on the bench.
He'll feature though, no doubt. Its a long season and players need rest or are out injured.
So 10 goals and 10 assists from the wing in half a season is shite? Cool, good man.
I think we should be looking to keep him. The guy has a bit of pride right, not being guaranteed a starting place might push him to improve in training, which will create competition. That will help everyone push on. He's getting paid well, why would he leave? Just to be in the first team somewhere?
If anyone is going it should be James.
If anyone is going it should be James.
It's why this story is bollocks like you mentioned.
We have only 2 CFs really in Cavani and Martial who can really play the position properly. Cavani has a nose for goal but is old and offers little in thr buildup. Martial's movement/goal threat is a bit lacking but his technical qualities are excellent and he has the best hold up play in the team.
So I can't see any reason to sell him before we identifying a long term CF for this team.
Greenwood needs time to develop for that role. It's too early to put all our eggs in that basket.
So I can't see any reason to sell him before we identifying a long term CF for this team.
Greenwood needs time to develop for that role. It's too early to put all our eggs in that basket.
Yes. We should send him there. His 'very good" performances too far in between and a distant memory now. I think most will take those chances.
Yes. We should send him there. His 'very good" performances too far in between and a distant memory now. I think most will take those chances.
Unfortunately for most, there's no substance to any rumors about him going anywhere this season.
We cannot sell Martial unless we sign another striker which we doubt we will. Martial is the only player besides Cavani who can play as a centre forward. He had a very bad last season no doubts but let's not forget he got 17 league goals just a year ago with the same manager. I see absolutely no reason he couldn't do it again especially since our attacking play should improve now we got Sancho. But this should definitely be his last season if he fails to impress again.
There are many reasons. One being that we want to keep him, I suspect.
My point was that this thread should be closed, I wasn't asking why he's not gone yet.
I genuinely didn't know/forgot he was injured
Martial as bad as he was last season is the only other player who can play as a number 9 I feel. Last season the good performances were few and far between and his movement was horrible but he still looked more natural there than Greenwood or Rashford. At worst he was at least a body there that occasionally held up the ball. Greenwood just vacates the area at this stage of his career and Rashford spends the game offside and doesn't challenge for any ball (probably to do with his shoulder) If we had a backup number 9 I would have agreed with you but we don't.
I actually think the season playing as a 9 has caused him to regress as a wide player - last season when he played wide, unless he had acres to run into, he was actually playing with his back to goal and would almost always try to lay off the ball for someone else or just pass it back.
I really like Martial but he’s inconsistent. Everybody knows there’s a great player in there but he just isn’t reliable.
I think he’ll go on to be an amazing player somewhere else unfortunately. He’s proved for us that he’s more Nani than Ronaldo. I’d take 50m for him right now but doubt anyone would pay it. I think a fresh start would show how good he actually is.
I think he’ll go on to be an amazing player somewhere else unfortunately. He’s proved for us that he’s more Nani than Ronaldo. I’d take 50m for him right now but doubt anyone would pay it. I think a fresh start would show how good he actually is.
If we were offered 25m for him I'd snap their hand off, really don't care if he does well elsewhere either.
For 25 we better keep him, who knows what version of him we will see this season
Sometimes I read a post on here and let out a sigh of relief that none of you guys in anywhere close to a position of power at United. A guy said they'd snapped the hands off of anyone that offered £25M for Martial. fecking hell
Agree it may be a little bit low but I genuinely can't see us getting significantly more for him in this market. Someone may pay 35 or so but he's far too inconsistent to risk any more than that. Plus he was dreadful last season.
Don't understand why this thread is active. The chances of him leaving are close to zero.
Literally Ollie Watkins championship striker money. Aaron Ramsdale money.
The problem with Martial is mental. Of course, he has the talent to be great but if things doesn't get his way, he will sulk. As fans, we want a see a player try his best but you will never get that with Martial. If his agent van find him a club, we should take the offer. Maybe he can be more motivated at another club.
His agent isn't looking though.
Well of course his agent isn't looking. Imagine being a senior team player, on 250k a week, being absolute kack for a season, he must be laughing all the way to the bank.
Trouble is Martial knows he has zero competition upfront. Greenwood is showing no signs of becoming a CF, Rashford isn't one either, so it's Cavani. Martial knows he has to barely turn out, womp his way around the pitch for 80 mins and someone will pull him out of the shit. He just seems to have never had any desire to succeed, but looks like his languid style will be our major option next year.
Trouble is Martial knows he has zero competition upfront. Greenwood is showing no signs of becoming a CF, Rashford isn't one either, so it's Cavani. Martial knows he has to barely turn out, womp his way around the pitch for 80 mins and someone will pull him out of the shit. He just seems to have never had any desire to succeed, but looks like his languid style will be our major option next year.
Martial showed what he can do, but undeniably there were flaws and doubts. Many centre around mentality and confidence… I wonder about his status/vibe in the dressing room played out? My sense is he needs a new challenge, a new collective/manager to grow. I really like him when on form.
Tony is getting 20 goals and 10 assists this season
I personally don't understand why this thread isn't locked. No reliable reports, no noise coming from his camp, nothing. All this is is a way for people to bash him... although, I suppose at least his performance thread isn't too big a car crash yet.
They even quoted 35 which is nuts. Just have to ignore and let them be mad in peace.
Those people aren’t on £250k a week. That impacts how much a club would spend on a transfer fee.
He needs to go imo, best for both sides.
Still don't know his best position, doesn't have the movement or predatory instincts of a top class number 9 but he's not really a winger either.
He also has a suspect temperament, as was shown when he had to switch squad numbers. Mourinho gave him tough love, Ole put his arm around his shoulder, neither approach seems to work.
He would not get 6 years to prove himself at any other top club, it's only his unjustifiable salary that will keep him at United.
Elanga's pre-season form is the final nail in the coffin of Martials' career at United as far as I'm concerned.
This young lad has more drive and determination in his left toe than Martial has in his whole body. Elanga has done a "Cavani" and shown us what a fit, motivated and determined player looks like and once again it shows up Martial for all his failings. He's had multiple chances and he blew it.
Get whatever price we can and ship him out of the club. It will send a strong message to all the other players about application and motivation, and emphasise that talent without effort is meaningless.
This young lad has more drive and determination in his left toe than Martial has in his whole body. Elanga has done a "Cavani" and shown us what a fit, motivated and determined player looks like and once again it shows up Martial for all his failings. He's had multiple chances and he blew it.
Get whatever price we can and ship him out of the club. It will send a strong message to all the other players about application and motivation, and emphasise that talent without effort is meaningless.
Hold your horses let him do it in the PL 1st. By way of pre season we should not be selling the pre season Pirlo.
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So much fanfiction going around the forums lately.
Another big brain take. I'm delighted this useless thread is still open.
Jesus Christ.
Elanga is clearly not ready yet but we don't need him to be right now. He is going the right way and appears to have a lot more drive in him
As for Martial he is clearly never going to be the answer for us in the position Ole is looking for him to play and I just do not see the point in keeping him.
As for Martial he is clearly never going to be the answer for us in the position Ole is looking for him to play and I just do not see the point in keeping him.