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You still aren't getting my point but I don't want to turn the Fellaini thread into a discussion about hair, and racial identity. All I'll say is an afro is not a hair style (like a mullet or mo-hawk or skinhead)

Whatever way someone keeps their hair is a style mate if i didn't cut my hair for 3 years and let it grow down past my knees that would be a style and it would look even sillier than Fellaini's. Because growing your hair out is a choice it's how you want to look. Honestly mate we are getting into the realms of nonsense here over one throwaway comment about someones fecking hair style.

and white people certainly cannot grow one!!

Come on now, lets not get drag this nonsense out. I'm not getting into a fecking discussion about what constitutes an afro. These guys below are white and they have hair styles that are to me similar to Fellaini's and they look equally as silly.

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So for anyone to call that silly or attribute it to clowning, to me is a form of discrimination and i've witnessed that in real life.

Honestly mate as someone who has been subjected to discrimination and sectarianism in my life and who has nieces and a nephew who are mixed race. For you to basically imply that i am racially discriminating against someone because i think their hair looks silly is unbelievable. I would appreciate an apology for that, because you have went too far there mate. You don't know me as a person, if i think someones hair looks silly that is that. Visually to me it looks silly there's no racial prejudice behind it.

If you have anything more to say to me beyond an apology please do so in PM because this is not the place to discuss matters like this.
 
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Whatever way someone keeps their hair is a style mate if i didn't cut my hair for 3 years and let it grow down past my knees that would be a style and it would look even sillier than Fellaini's. Because growing your hair out is a choice it's how you want to look. Honestly mate we are getting into the realms of nonsense here over one throwaway comment about someones fecking hair style.

Come on now, lets not get drag this nonsense out. I'm not getting into a fecking discussion about what constitutes an afro. These guys below are white and they have hair styles that are to me similar to Fellaini's and they look equally as silly.

Honestly mate as someone who has been subjected to discrimination and sectarianism in my life and who has nieces and a nephew who are mixed race. For you to basically imply that i am racially discriminating against someone because i think their hair looks silly is unbelievable. I would appreciate an apology for that, because you have went too far there mate. You don't know me as a person, if i think someones hair looks silly that is that. Visually to me it looks silly there's no racial prejudice behind it.

If you have anything more to say to me beyond an apology please do so in PM because this is not the place to discuss matters like this.

I don't think I was implying you were racist. That was never my intention so apologies if it came across that way. My whole point in this back-and forth was to highlight how the comment you made could be construed as being discriminatory based on real life experiences. I'm black and I've had an afro in the past, my sisters still do, as well as some close friends. I'm not bringing this up just to 1-up you on who is "more black", but it's your refusal to acknowledge my point and insisting that afros are simply a choice, thus just a silly hair style worn by clowns is why. Essentially you were dismissing my family, other black people and evidently gingers as clowns because the way their hair grows. I hope you understand why I felt the need to say something.
 
I don't think I was implying you were racist. That was never my intention so apologies if it came across that way. My whole point in this back-and forth was to highlight how the comment you made could be construed as being discriminatory based on real life experiences. I'm black and I've had an afro in the past, my sisters still do, as well as some close friends. I'm not bringing this up just to 1-up you on who is "more black", but it's your refusal to acknowledge my point and insisting that afros are simply a choice, thus just a silly hair style worn by clowns is why.

Cheers mate fair enough. Listen with my original comment about his hair looking silly and every reply since in this conversation it hasn't been my goal to be offensive or offend anyone. If you felt that i was please understand that wasn't my intention.

To be honest i don't even know if Fellaini is considered black (is he?), that may just be because of ignorance on my part. His hair style to me has never been something i associate only with black people, as i have seen people of different races with similar. So racial connotations never crossed my mind when i made fun of his hair.

Essentially you were dismissing my family, other black people and evidently gingers as clowns because the way their hair grows. I hope you understand why I felt the need to say something.

Look i honestly only brought clowns into the debate not to compare black people or any other race (or even gingers, my wife is ginger) to clowns, but simply to highlight why some people might think Fellaini's hair looks silly. My reasoning was that clowns most likely wear hair like that because it makes them look a bit silly (i now know there may be other more sinister historical reasons). I accept it was a bad example to use for the point i was trying to make and i can now see why you misconstrued what i was trying to say. Again i didn't mean to cause offence to anyone.

Theres a whole other debate to be had at another time and place which you touched upon earlier, as to the true origins of why clowns wear those wigs. But up until this conversation i had honestly never thought about it in depth, maybe it is a hangover from an earlier time when the mocking of certain races was acceptable in clown shows. I read a little bit about the subject last night.

After seeing 1000's of clowns in my life on tv etc wearing those wigs perhaps many of us subconsciously connect someone with big hair to looking a bit silly because of most clowns appearance. I accept i may be guilty of this myself.

So i think it's safe to say this was just a bit of a misunderstanding on both our parts, and maybe a little ignorance on mine.
 
Fellaini isn't useless. He's got his uses. He's a big chap, he's pretty physical, he's hardworking and he's not that horrible with his feet. If a team plays him as no 10 then he can be quite a nuisance mostly because of his size + because most top defences aren't equipped with players to counter him. The typical 6.3ft tall top quality defenders are a rarity these days.

The problem with Fellaini is that he can only be effective if a team plays in a certain way. Unfortunately for him and us no big club can play that game anymore. If he played deep he loses most of his effectiveness (the guy is hardworking but he lacks the passing ability to be a playmaker, the mobility to be a Gattuso type of player or the positioning to be a Carrick type of player). In few words he is the less adaptable version of Andy Carroll.
 
All I'll say is an afro is not a hair style (like a mullet or mo-hawk or skinhead) and white people certainly cannot grow one!
Of course they can. If you want to find discrimination where there isn't one, you should look closely to your post here.

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Will he start for Belgium?

I actually think he'll be first choice sub in our midfield. Can't see Mourinho getting rid of someone as big and strong as him.
 
He nutmegged someone early on - must be a career highlight for him - but has been pretty shite since.
 
Having a good game. Shown some good touches and has got stuck in, as usual. Loved when he took De Rossi out. Still haven't forgot about what he said about us.
 
The one thing I did not want him to do was to elbow Darmian. Guess what?

He did! :mad::mad::mad:
 
The blonde oaf is nearly as shit as our fellaini
 
Comfortably Belgiums best player, though that's not saying much.
 
Decent perofrmance, but not really someone you want to see week in week out in our team.

I am pretty sure we could sell him for a good price.
 
I struggle to see what managers see in him. Such a pointless and bland player.

I don't even understand the "Belgium's best player" comments, he's a nothing player and should have cost them 2-0 in the first half when he was outjumped by a midget.

Their manager deserves sacking for playing him ahead of a an actual footballler like Dembele.
 
I struggle to see what managers see in him. Such a pointless and bland player.

The thing is, he wasn't regular Fellaini bad tonight but when he starts, it is nothing more than a reactive approach to the game. The whole team is forced to play in a certain way when he takes certain positions on the pitch. Hazard, KdB could have started at #10 to greater effect. Dembele, a superior player could have brought more to the game. Fellaini just unbalances any team, even if he manages not to have a bad game.
 
I don't even understand the "Belgium's best player" comments, he's a nothing player and should have cost them 2-0 in the first half when he was outjumped by a midget.

Their manager deserves sacking for playing him ahead of a an actual footballler like Dembele.
It's utterly bizarre isn't it? He's basically Peter Crouch playing in midfield. He doesn't pass through the lines, can't play diagonals, can't play a final pass or dictate a game. He gets praised for winning headers.

He was nowhere near Belgium's best player. Hazard & De Bruyne were both better.
 
He was one of Belgium's better players, as for United he's a number 10 that has been played out of position ever since he was signed. It just makes David Moyes buying him and playing him as a midfielder seem an even more bizarre decision.
 
My point was that he's an effective no.10 as evidenced at Everton.

In the way Everton played under Moyes, sure. Not sure many here would like to see us play that way, or that Belgium couldn't do better either.
 
Can't stand the negativity. He's our player and he loves United.

He was instrumental in our FA Cup glory and yet barely gets any praise of it. If it wasn't for his goals against West Ham and Everton, we wouldn't have even got to the final. I'd argue if he played in that West Ham game at Upton Park, we would have got Top 4.

He always gives it 100%. Which is more than you can say for the majority of our "fan favourites"... Some people on here just want an entire Starting 11 every week of small weak players like Herrera and Januzaj. Absolutely no balance whatsoever. You have to change your team and tactics to counter the opposition. Fellaini is useful in the big games cause he offers strength and presence.

If you knew anything about football, you would see why every manager seems to favour him. Doesn't matter if it's Moyes or Van Gaal or Mourinho. He'll be one of the first names on the sheet.
 
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