Kevin Nolan is having a good season this season too.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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Kevin Nolan is having a good season this season too.
Yeah maybe, but you have to agree, he's average
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It would be a waste of time responding to bobby lads, don't bother"
Why? Cos you have absolutely nothing to back your argument up with?
Ha, too funny. Calling someone an Apologist is the perfect sign they dont have anything to back up their arguments. You are a genius....
Remind me how much Fellaini cost again. It's 2 posts since you last said it.
There was an edit numbnuts. Keep up with the comedy hour though, its superb.
When you remind me of his amazing scoring record...again
Keep up with the insults too keyboard warrior since you haven't got anything else to say
This made me chuckle. But I do think you need a re-run through excel for certainty.
I should clarify, I couldn't use Excel for that one because the data set is too complex. That's actually a copy of Moyes' new iPad scouting app that I managed to get off a mate who works at the club.
Ha, more comedy, check your own postings, you are having a fun time insulting everyone else. Funny how some cant see the things they do that they accuse others of.
Yeah there are more pressing matters, but on final day of the transfer window, final hours even, when none of the other deals are going to get done, whatever business can get done should be done. Esp if it's an extra body in CM. We don't hae unlimited money but we have profits of 100+ million a year that just leave the club in dividends for the glazers if its not spent
yeah they are idiots, unlike the balanced individuals on here that claim fellaini can't pass a ball 11 yards and that moyes destroyed everton
good thing we didn't spend 30m on anyone then
Had a few last night and on the walk home, for some reason, I started singing my own Fellaini chant to the tune of Leonard Cohen's classic 'So Long, Marianne'. It goes like this;
"Now go long, Marouane, it's time that we began
To lump, and hoof, and hoof, and lump it up the field again"
When we get to the last 10 minutes and need a goal it could be just the inspiration the Afro needs!
"Now go long, Marouane, it's time that we began
To lump, and hoof, and hoof, and lump it up the field again"
When we get to the last 10 minutes and need a goal it could be just the inspiration the Afro needs!
The money leaves as dividends irrespective of our spend. Besides the point, I know.
Anyway, you cannot justify that shambolic transfer window ffs. It's not like Fellaini was a panic buy either. We chased him and Baines the whole summer. If that was not a planned transfer going horribly wrong then I don't know what is. Who is to blame and how much Moyes must take stick for that can be debated. Not the fact that Fellaini was never a player who could justify spending even close to what we did on him. An average CM on the best of days.
What were his stats previous seasons? It's a good stat for sure but we need to look at his previous season to put some context to it.
If we have to wait 4 years for him to be good for us and that only happens if we play him as our #10, then no matter which way you want to look at it, it will be a horrible purchase.
What's with the post? Some people on here...
I'm not even a Fellaini fan, I merely came across a youtube video, watched it, and then was very surprised at the comments. I posted it here to get the thoughts of some people. I did not infer anything.
You need to tone it down. And you need to stop assuming everybody who doesn't outright criticise Fellaini adores the ground he walks on.
That response there shows you loathe him.
I'm not a fan of Fellaini either but I'm not sure being so flippant and rude is the way you need to go about arguing your point. You called Cina a Moyes apologist when he's probably no more keen on him than you. I'm sure posting like this isn't what earned you promotion.
I posted a video from four years ago and I was very surprised at reading the comments, also from four years ago.
I was expecting others on here to be equally surprised that once upon time people actually thought he had such immense potential.
Bobby, you cannot state he has had 1 good season in 4 and then argue last season doesn't count because he wasn't playing as a defensive midfielder.
Bobby made an invalid point and now is resorting to all sorts to maintain he was right. Anybody looking at this objectively would agree he had a good season last season performing the function required of him.
He is not at Manchester United to perform that function however therefore one must rate him as a defensive midfielder. I haven't seen enough of Fellaini to comment on his ability as a defensive midfielder, however, if he has played in seasons past as a defensive midfielder then perhaps those who have watched him could assess him better.
You simply cannot however argue he has had 1 good season in 4 and then state, oh yeah, last season doesn't count because he wasn't a defensive mid! That is inferring last season must be considered a bad season (out of the four) simply because he was not played as a defensive midfielder. He played the position asked of him and he did fine, Bobby's logic though places blame on Fellaini for not playing deeper in midfield. It's one thing being critical of his performances but another criticising him for not playing in defensive midfield.
It would be a waste of time responding to bobby lads, don't bother
This.
I always thought of that song when people would call him Marianne.
Fellaini might have had a shocker this season but he's doing better than bobby in this thread.
Cina499288 said:
He he he. Thankfully I consistently called him a donkey, even after his great performance against United. To be fair, he became a bit of a darling of the Transfer Forum. Looks like we're stuck with him though...
I think the criticism comes from a combination of things.
We had been crying out for top midfielders for years now and then we splashed big money on someone who doesn't really look like top drawer, more like a "do a job" type of player, of which we have a truckload. We had been crying out for improvements to our style of play as well and it was always obvious that Fellaini, if anything, would be a hindrance on that front. A step backwards.
Also, the Young deal most of all cooled people on getting the best performers of upper mid-table Premier League sides. Valencia's regression, too. Fellaini very much looks like another Ashley Young so far and we are sick of the original, don't want a replica as well.
All that would be true even if Fergie had stayed and signed him last summer. So it's definitely not just about Moyes. But yes, it played a part: a lot of opposition fans predicted that Moyes would turn us into Everton and thus far they have been proven right - and it's fecking painful and Fellaini is a symbol of that, no doubt.
But if you actually read the whole thread instead of wrongly picking out what suits your argument, you might have seen somebody else using his scoring record last season as something to judge him on as an above average player. I, like you and many others, pointed out that's not what we bought him for, and that Kevin Nolan had the same scoring record. That's called a fact, mate, to counter somebody's statement. Sorry if you don't like it. It seems that these Fellaini fans will also resort to all sorts to prove their point, without having some credible facts to back this up. When I poke holes in it, they whinge about it like little kids.
And if actually read what I said and not make up sh*t like I said something about last season not counting when I didn't, it shows again you're not reading it properly. I also said he was bought as a defensive midfielder, and unlike you I have seen enough of him at Liege, Everton, Belgium and our club to judge him. So let me simplify it for you..Moyes did not buy him for his scoring record, did he? It was as a DM. But he played him in different positions and he paid that much on someone who didn't play there all the time instead of someone who does.
Bobby's logic? Now you're making up a load of bollox, mate. When did I place blame on him for not playing deeper? I did not criticise once him for not playing there. I said he wasn't good enough as a DM for our club, based on performances. And I didn't infer anything of the sort. More misreading and misinterpretation on your part. You talk about having a good season but that's open to debate.
Was he ever on our radar until Moyes came along? Or did any clubs try to outbid us or break the bank to get him in the last 4 years? No, no and no. Maybe that tells you something about him. We should be looking for much better quality player for such a vital position. If that's the standard of player you want at our club that is your problem.
I hope you said the same thing to the rude name calling troll I was responding to. It's amusing that criticising someone's statement when they have nothing to back it up is seen as rude. That's usually called a debate.
No, it shows I never thought he was good enough for our club, now or before, cos I have seen him play for a long, long time. And loathe suggests hatred and I don't hate anyone so don't know how you came to that conclusion. Sound like you're overreacting.
Tone done what exactly? Didn't know you had been made Assistant Moderator. And if people post questionable things and I disagree, should I just say nothing? It is called a forum after all.
If you want to post postitive statements about him from You Tube, for example, from 4 seasons ago, then what do you expect? You put them up as some kind of endorsement of his ability, to back up your argument. Why else would you do that? Sorry for disagreeing with you and that you misinterpret everything I say.
Nah, I'm too busy picking up all the toys that were thrown ou of all those prams.
He's way better than Kevin Nolan. He's a good enough DM for international level and he can also go further up the field and score 1 goal every 3 games. Versatile.
He's not good enough for United, though.
Not when we're the 7th best team in England let alone when we're fighting for trophies, as we should.
Juan Mata scores 20 and assists 20 when played as an AM. That's what we're aiming for, not a lump who'll scramble in 1 in 3 at the cost of having an actual attacking gameplan.
He's not Juan Mata, I'll give you that. He will be a good DM for us though.
Fellaini's not got the quality to be at United. It's depressing that we're now talking about him "doing a job" - is that what £28m buys you these days? He's a bloody dreadful player and it was clear as day we should never have bought him to the club. Pound for pound, he's the worst United player I've seen.
He's cumbersome, indisciplined, an average passer and struggles badly when pressed - I fail to see any qualities in Fellaini that would make him a good holding midfielder for us. We'll always struggle to play a possession-based game and create chances from open play if he's at the base of our midfield.
His passing is actually really accurate when he's doing it with his feet and not his head.
Based on?
If we are going to continue with a two-man MF behind Mata we need actual quality, of which he possesses none. I would rather we hadn't signed him, and instead gave Cleverly more game time - at least he actually moves around the pitch at a reasonable speed. Truly one of the worst signings I've seen at United, absolutely bobbins.
Watching him
What passing? Back passes or side passes. Or short passes To Carrick?
Forward passes too.
He's not anywhere remotely close to a good option for us in AM, so why even bring up his 1 in 3 record when playing as a target man for Everton? He'll never have that role here and rightly so.
The problem with your second statement is that he's got none of the qualities a United DM should have.
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