Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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The thing is, when we still had Fergie as our manager, Fellaini was constantly linked to us and almost unanimously, people agreed he would be a good signing for us, bar a few. They (and me) also agreed that he was a good player who was good enough to make the step up here. Even last summer people still agreed he was a good player, but the consensus was that he wasn't the top quality player that we needed to sort out our midfield, but as long as we did also get a top midfielder in then it'd be fine, which we sadly didn't.
People now act like he's the worst player on the planet and a shambles etc, but it's just not true at all. He's a good player, he's just in his first season, with a few injuries, in a team that has capitulated to unprecedented levels.
I think the biggest reason for the mass criticism of Fellaini is actually mostly due to the fact that it was Moyes who signed him, and people see him and his ridiculous transfer fee as just another way to parade how shit Moyes has been here, seeing as he was his only signing and he came from the club he used to manage. He's an easy example to use of Moyes' failings here so far.
I think he's good enough for us, but I can see why people will disagree as he's been shite so far, but if he's here next season (very likely) I'm pretty sure we'll see a much better player than we have seen this season.
Nicely put.
Obviously, since it says I joined the caf in Jan 2014. Apologies for not joining 4 years ago so I knew about those glowing endorsements 223 pages before this one. Afraid I didn't have time to read them all.
Of course it was a general statement, and alo we have to ask why SAF was never once interested in such an amazing player when we really needed a CM for so long. Maybe its cos he has failed to live up to all that hype in the 4 years since.
I think you really need to stop responding to every post on here in such a sarcastic tone, maybe? My post was not an insult.
Had a look at my first few posts in that thread:
And then...
At least I've been consistent.
And you could stop trying to rewrite history. When was SAF ever interested in signing Fellaini? I cannot remember him being linked to us once. It's BS. And if it was reported in CaughtOffside, it's about as reliable as chocolate fireguard. Did the club ever bid for an official bid for him before Moyes came along? Nope.
Sorry if you're offended by me just stating the fact of when I joined, which was a mistake on your part for not looking for the date below my name.
You're obviously a Moyes apologist cos you blame this 'capitulation' on the title winning players for his total failure and inability to manage them. Moyes signed Fellaini and Moyes knew him before, so it's the players' fault Moyes cannot get the best of them and Fellaini?
He's an easy example of Moyes' failure cos he is just that. One good season at Everton 4 years ago won't change anything.
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And you could stop trying to rewrite history. When was SAF ever interested in signing Fellaini? I cannot remember him being linked to us once. It's BS.
Sorry if you're offended by me just stating the fact of when I joined, which was a mistake on your part for not looking for the date below my name.
You're obviously a Moyes apologist cos you blame this 'capitulation' on the title winning players for his total failure and inability to manage them. Moyes signed Fellaini and Moyes knew him before, so it's the players' fault Moyes cannot get the best of them and Fellaini?
He's an easy example of Moyes' failure cos he is just that. One good season at Everton 4 years ago won't change anything.
And you could stop trying to rewrite history. When was SAF ever interested in signing Fellaini? I cannot remember him being linked to us once. It's BS. And if it was reported in CaughtOffside, it's about as reliable as chocolate fireguard.
Sorry if you're offended by me just stating the fact of when I joined, which was a mistake on your part for not looking for the date below my name.
You're obviously a Moyes apologist cos you blame this 'capitulation' on the title winning players for his total failure and inability to manage them. Moyes signed Fellaini and Moyes knew him before, so it's the players' fault Moyes cannot get the best of them and Fellaini?
He's an easy example of Moyes' failure cos he is just that. One good season at Everton 4 years ago won't change anything.
He scored 1 goal every 3 games last season.
And?
That's pretty good right?
He is not here to score goals, even Moyes said he will hopefully score soon! And then some really silly stuff about his chest control. We didn't spend 27 mil for some goals, he is supposed to be a midfielder and he should at least start to remotely looking like one!
He played further advanced and in a system that played to his strengths at Everton. His goal-scoring prowess is kind of a mute point in relation to his starting position at United and the system he's playing in now.
Did he score 1 goal every 3 games from defensive midfield? Cos that's why Moyes signed him. He scored those goals cos he's only effective as a long ball player, not as a top midfielder. Is that how we play or how we competed for so long? Defensively he has been very poor for us.
It was in response to bobbyf saying he's had 1 good season in 4 years. 1 goal in 3 for Everton is good regardless of where he was played.
Whilst I agree that his main job is not to score goals (duh) considering how we play him and where, he's been very underwhelming from set pieces. I expected him to be a big threat from set pieces and I can only remember a couple of chances this season and obviously no goals.
Worth spending £27m for? Do me a favour.
As previously mentioned, he wasn't signed cos of his goal scoring record, but as a midfielder.
But you can agree that he's had more than 1 good season at Everton right? Because you said he'd only had 1 good season at Everton before.
I never said he was interested in signing him, did I?And you could stop trying to rewrite history. When was SAF ever interested in signing Fellaini? I cannot remember him being linked to us once. It's BS. And if it was reported in CaughtOffside, it's about as reliable as chocolate fireguard. Did the club ever bid for an official bid for him before Moyes came along? Nope.
Sorry if you're offended by me just stating the fact of when I joined, which was a mistake on your part for not looking for the date below my name.
You're obviously a Moyes apologist cos you blame this 'capitulation' on the title winning players for his total failure and inability to manage them. Moyes signed Fellaini and Moyes knew him before, so it's the players' fault Moyes cannot get the best of them and Fellaini?
He's an easy example of Moyes' failure cos he is just that. One good season at Everton 4 years ago won't change anything.
I know when you joined by the way (that's why I said "long enough"), hence why I linked you back to a time before you joined, when people were saying those things.
And no, I am far from a Moyes apologist. I want him gone just as much as anyone.
No I don't agree. He's been average for years. Didn't want him anywhere near our club last summer cos he just isn't good enough. Any other clubs interested in this amazing player when we overpaid for him?
And what is his scoring record at our club? Zero in how many games? And a poor midfielder. All for £27m.
So he didn't have a good season last season where he scored 1 goal every 3 games for Everton?
Depends where he was playing. Was it DM or a long ball AM? Cos we don't need another AM, long ball or not.
He looked a lot better because he was on the end of things at Everton. He was still the same average footballer. It's just he was more involved in dangerous areas. When asked to play football now, he is exposed.
It was the same season The Guardian named him the 60th best footballer in the world.
Average footballers don't score 1 game every 3 games in the premier league do they?
Oh, that changes everything. Lets believe someones opinion in a newspaper.
Andy Carroll for Newcastle did more than that and he is as average as Fellaini.
It's misleading in my opinion. Yes, when in the box he can be very dangerous, no doubting that. He used to be a very good header of the ball, he used to attack the ball. I hope he finds those traits again, it will give him confidence.
However, have you seen him when he has the ball at his feet in midfield with a defender pressing him? That's what we need in midifeld. We have Kagawa, Mata, Rooney etc who can all offer 10x more than what Fellaini could do in the 10 role.
Not from defensive midfield they don't. Cos that is the position he was signed for, not playing hoofball when Everton needed a goal and couldn't break down the opposition.
Kevin Nolan 'averages' about 1 in every 3 games. Adam Johnson has got 10 in 34 games this season. Peter Crouch 10 in 35. So to answer your question, yes average players do score about 1 in 3 games!
And do average players score zero goals in 12 games for our club? Yes, they do. Or don't.
Yes, I saw this list, made by some 'experts'
who were footy journos. They also had Fellaini ahead of Robben, Villa, Vidic, Balotelli, and Modric on this list. Most accurate.http://www.theguardian.com/football/datablog/2012/dec/24/world-best-footballers-top-100-list
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And you could stop trying to rewrite history. When was SAF ever interested in signing Fellaini? I cannot remember him being linked to us once. It's BS. And if it was reported in CaughtOffside, it's about as reliable as chocolate fireguard. Did the club ever bid for an official bid for him before Moyes came along? Nope.
Sorry if you're offended by me just stating the fact of when I joined, which was a mistake on your part for not looking for the date below my name.
You're obviously a Moyes apologist cos you blame this 'capitulation' on the title winning players for his total failure and inability to manage them. Moyes signed Fellaini and Moyes knew him before, so it's the players' fault Moyes cannot get the best of them and Fellaini?
He's an easy example of Moyes' failure cos he is just that. One good season at Everton 4 years ago won't change anything.
you are getting more cringeworthy with every posting.
I guess he didn't have a good season last season then.
It would be a waste of time responding to bobby lads, don't bother 
You don't have to read it.
I could say the same about the drivel people come out with on here.
It would be a waste of time responding to bobby lads, don't bother
Why? Cos you have absolutely nothing to back your argument up with?
You could but it'd eat into your time spent on better things, like saying the same things over and over again constantly.
Yes, like saying 1 goal every 3 games over and over and over...and then finding out other average players have the same stats. Must be difficult.
Now you know how it feels
- just extrapolate that over the course of 4 months and you'll understand how the rest of us feel.Now you know how it feels
Sorry you've continually stated the same stat about average players and their scoring record only to find out the facts prove you're wrong.
I'm pretty sure he did score 1 in 3 though. I'll go and double check.
Yeah I just checked. He scored 12 goals in 36 games last season.
I ran that through excel and it came out as 1/3.
EDIT: I think you owe me an apology @bobbyf
I ran that through excel and it came out as 1/3.
EDIT: I think you owe me an apology @bobbyf
I would just use good old fashioned short division for that calculation.
And it's great we paid £27m for a player with the same scoring stats as Kevin Nolan. Glad we cleared that one up. And then he plays in midfield, very poorly.
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