Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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I know a few random blokes that I have played with who are probably better than Fellaini. I think Lee Cattermole would add more to our team than he has this season. I think other than those adopting a 'support the team' policy, anyone can see he's a terrible player, who on a good day where we are not pressured at all, looks an average one.

At best, he should be used as a weapon from the bench in the latter stages of games to be a target man. Then in the summer, throw his contract in the bin and move on.
 
I know a few random blokes that I have played with who are probably better than Fellaini. I think Lee Cattermole would add more to our team than he has this season. I think other than those adopting a 'support the team' policy, anyone can see he's a terrible player, who on a good day where we are not pressured at all, looks an average one.

At best, he should be used as a weapon from the bench in the latter stages of games to be a target man. Then in the summer, throw his contract in the bin and move on.

Yeah, one of those Fellaini/Moyes posts which are so bad, that I actually want to defend them again. I've called Fellaini a pathetic player myself, but that was referring to his nastiness. Ability-wise, I think, he isn't good enough for United to be a regular starter, but he's certainly better than what you are describing.
 
I know a few random blokes that I have played with who are probably better than Fellaini. I think Lee Cattermole would add more to our team than he has this season. I think other than those adopting a 'support the team' policy, anyone can see he's a terrible player, who on a good day where we are not pressured at all, looks an average one.

At best, he should be used as a weapon from the bench in the latter stages of games to be a target man. Then in the summer, throw his contract in the bin and move on.

ABU? joke posts like this get my goat. Clueless.
 
You must be on a WUM. When has Fellaini played in Carrick's position or playing like a DM and received high notice?

You do know where Fellaini played for Everton do you?

He loves Fellaini. Next on cue: "Fellaini played better than Messi last season".
 
ABU? joke posts like this get my goat. Clueless.

Yea whatever.

Because I'm not entitled to think Lee Cattermole, one footballer, would be more useful that Marouane Fellaini, another premier league footballer?
 
Yeah, one of those Fellaini/Moyes posts which are so bad, that I actually want to defend them again. I've called Fellaini a pathetic player myself, but that was referring to his nastiness. Ability-wise, I think, he isn't good enough for United to be a regular starter, but he's certainly better than what you are describing.

What ability has he fecking demonstrated that remotely appears to be anything above what would be expected from any old player? Again, this 'he's good enough to be a squad player' thing is nonsense too in my opinion. How good does 'good enough to be a squad player' have to be? Fellaini's performance this season has shown no more footballing ability than a League 2 footballer.

Before anyone starts coming out with the usual rhetoric, tell me what exactly he does to a level higher than a League 2 player, at least this season anyway. Or just how bad do you guys think a League 2 footballer would actually look in our midfield? They aren't going to look like a 3 year old now are they? That said, they may not look much better than a regular bloke who plays a lot of football. I will honestly say that I've seen little above that level from Fellaini this season.

If you were watching these performances for another club, not a chance you would want him anywhere near United.
 
ABU? joke posts like this get my goat. Clueless.

Oh come on, are you really having a go at someone because he thinks Fellaini is shit, which clearly he is.

Who's clueless I ask myself?

It says everything that with a couple of additions and the subtraction of Fellaini Martinez has turned Everton around in a way that Moyes was never going to i.e. Moyes hasn't a clue and buys utter shite to play in his "system" (dare I call it a system??).

Fellaini is a Championship player at best.
 
Didn't travel with the squad for the bayern game, injured apparently.

Good news for us.
 
What can Fellaini do in the centre of the park that Liam Bridcutt can't ?
 
That comment from Moyes about what he's "done with his chest" reads like a parody. Stop it, please.

:lol:

I genuinely didn't know where he was going with that.

When a player controls the ball better above waist height than below it there's something really wrong.

The best thing Moyes can do to protect Fellaini is take him out of the spotlight and simply not talk about him e.g. if asked reply 'its been a tough season for him with injuries and trying to adjust to a new set up. He hasn't really been able to show what he's capable of but I think next season we'll see the real Fellaini' and leave it at that.
 
What ability has he fecking demonstrated that remotely appears to be anything above what would be expected from any old player? Again, this 'he's good enough to be a squad player' thing is nonsense too in my opinion. How good does 'good enough to be a squad player' have to be? Fellaini's performance this season has shown no more footballing ability than a League 2 footballer.

Before anyone starts coming out with the usual rhetoric, tell me what exactly he does to a level higher than a League 2 player, at least this season anyway. Or just how bad do you guys think a League 2 footballer would actually look in our midfield? They aren't going to look like a 3 year old now are they? That said, they may not look much better than a regular bloke who plays a lot of football. I will honestly say that I've seen little above that level from Fellaini this season.

If you were watching these performances for another club, not a chance you would want him anywhere near United.

I never said that he is good enough to be a squad player for us. I never said I wanted him here in the first place. I merely pointed out that he is better than Lee Cattermole and the blokes you've played with, which isn't all that farfetched. Since you are blinded by hatred, arguing with you is pointless, so carry on talking nonsense.
 
Didn't travel with the squad for the bayern game, injured apparently.

Good news for us.

To be honest, I think Fellaini still has qualities he's not showing that could be useful in certain circumstances next year. But this season has been a total dog for him and I think we need to leave him to one side til next year.

Even if we needed a late goal and were launching the ball into the box I wouldn't fancy Fellaini to come on. His confidence looks shot.
 
To be honest, I think Fellaini still has qualities he's not showing that could be useful in certain circumstances next year. But this season has been a total dog for him and I think we need to leave him to one side til next year.

Even if we needed a late goal and were launching the ball into the box I wouldn't fancy Fellaini to come on. His confidence looks shot.
He's definitely under performing. I don't rate him at all but he can be a useful squad player, at best. He's shown nothing but pure shit every time we've come up against a top half team though, which is why it's good news he won't play against bayern. He's just woefully out of place in those games.
 
At least we all know now not to have a speculative bet on Belgium this summer.
 
I never said that he is good enough to be a squad player for us. I never said I wanted him here in the first place. I merely pointed out that he is better than Lee Cattermole and the blokes you've played with, which isn't all that farfetched. Since you are blinded by hatred, arguing with you is pointless, so carry on talking nonsense.

Such a line shows it is you who is actually pointless to debate with.

Even if such an extremity were true and I did harbour 'hatred' for Fellaini, what do you think would have possibly driven me towards hating a United player? Chances are because I believed he is fecking shite.

Does ayone see any difference between him and when O'Shea played in midfield for us? In fact, I think O'Shea would have a very strong claim to have turned in midfield performances for us that were better than Fellaini's, and O'Shea is a terrible footballer (and an inferior midfielder to Lee Cattermole too, for the record.)
 
The stuff I've been reading about Carrick a nothing player for Utd, about Fellaini having had a better than Carrick's previous, about Busquets being a destroyer who can play a little.... I wonder if I'm watching the same sports or not.
 
The stuff I've been reading about Carrick a nothing player for Utd, about Fellaini having had a better than Carrick's previous, about Busquets being a destroyer who can play a little.... I wonder if I'm watching the same sports or not.

:lol:

Tell me about it.
 
He's definitely under performing. I don't rate him at all but he can be a useful squad player, at best. He's shown nothing but pure shit every time we've come up against a top half team though, which is why it's good news he won't play against bayern. He's just woefully out of place in those games.

Exactly the kind of thing that killed us this season. About how many players did we say the bolded part this season? Young, Valencia, Fellaini,Carrick, Fletcher,Cleverley. We again bought a squad player for a premium price and wages. The last few years of transfers, combined with an inept manager is what's holding us back.
 
Exactly the kind of thing that killed us this season. About how many players did we say the bolded part this season? Young, Valencia, Fellaini,Carrick, Fletcher,Cleverley. We again bought a squad player for a premium price and wages. The last few years of transfers, combined with an inept manager is what's holding us back.
Yup. Too many squad players in midfield was our problem last season, then we went out and spent £27.5m on yet another one, when in reality he's worse then both Carrick and fletcher and just improving the numbers. This summer though we'll have to sell one of them at least because we'll bring in 2 new ones. Just a complete waste of money he is. I was saying this a year ago when people wanted him, he's just a target man basically and no better then what we have as an actual midfielder. The only thing that's surprised me is that he's been shite as a target man even, constantly losing aerial duals.
 
I'm glad he's out. We did so well in the first leg in spite of him.
 
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/01/18/marouane-fellaini-superb-in-a-deep-lying-role-for-everton/

A while ago perhaps, but shows he can do it and I have no doubt he can do it again after he is given time to settle.

Also Fellaini has been voted MOTM for us on here and received high praise for some DM performances already this season:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-everton-h.380225/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-wba-a.386162/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-crystal-palace-a.385306/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-real-sociedad.379158/

Can he do it against top quality opposition? Allen and Hendersen showed him up and they are average players playing under good management. I don't even know why he was nominated for MOTM against Everton because we were so lethargic that day. Fellaini was overan by his ex teammates. How much time does a 26 year old who has played in the same league for 6 years under the same manager need to settle? This is not his level. He's not even Everton under Martinez level. Stoke city or bust.

Did you read the article? It is about Fellaini outplaying Yaya Toure a few seasons back - so yes he has done it against top quality opposition in the past. I would agree that he has not done so well in the big matches for us but generally our whole team have been shite on those days.

there are several matches there where many people have given mentions to Fellaini as MOTM and I havent even listed them all, you and your merry band of haters make out that hes been poor everytime he played which is just not true.
 
Have you seen the full squad? Did Wilson go?
No, saw the Mirror and Mcdonnell tweet it. As far as the article said, everyone apart from Fellaini, Rafael and Evans travelled, but Giggs, Rooney and Evra might not make it. Think both Rooney and Evra will start though. Didn't see anything on Wilson so I doubt it.
 
Just how many injuries do we have ?? Can you list them.
According to physioroom, Evra, Young, Rooney, Rafael, and Giggs are all due to come back for the Bayern game (rafael obviously won't now), Evans for the Everton game and then RVP is the only one who's out for longer. Add in Fellaini to this as the mirror reported today.
 
What a disgusting player. He must be the worst offender of fouls of the ball in world football today. How he hasn't received a retrospective ban for any of his elbow flails is beyond me.
 
Fellaini's performance this season has shown no more footballing ability than a League 2 footballer.

He has under performed however you imply he is playing at league 2 standard...

In terms of ability, if Belgium played him frequently prior to this season (his injury probably means he hasn't been selected much lately) then that suggests their midfield is lower than league 2 standard. And I simply cannot believe the 10th highest ranked international side in the world has a midfield that couldn't cut it in league 2 :lol:

His performance this season hasn't been as bad as you describe. His overall ability is very good however very good tends not to be enough for the most elite teams. Time will tell whether he can show quality at the highest level.

Without a doubt he needs to improve, I do not deny this.
 
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He has under performed however your comment is pure hatred towards him.

In terms of ability, if Belgium played him frequently prior to this season (his injury probably means he hasn't been selected much lately) then that suggests their midfield is lower than league 2 standard. And I simply cannot believe the 10th highest ranked international side in the world has a midfield that couldn't cut it in league 2 :lol:

As I've said many times, I don't 'read' football, I watch it, then I say what I see. I couldn't care less if Belgium play him, based on what I have seen watching him this season, they are mad to do so. I can't physically watch someone turning in terrible performances with my own two eyes, but then say that because Belgium pick him, I actually think he is good.

I wouldn't expect a League 1 or 2 midfielder to have looked a much worse footballer that Fellaini has for us this season, that is my observation from watching him. Some may say they have seen him play better before, that would be a different argument. Based on what I've seen this season, he is a very poor footballer.
 
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