Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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Those quotes about his chest control ... Ffs can't they stop saying stupid shit week after week ? I mean what the feck are they on talking about his chest controls :wenger:

I think he's the first player to be more renowned for what he does with his upper body (hair, head, chest and elbows) then what he does with his feet.
 
Hes had some decent performances, like I'd say 7/10. He just doesn't do the things you'd expect a big money signing to do. I mean, we spent a lot on Mata and we're starting to see why. We aren't seeing why Fellaini is a 27.5 million player at all, and I don't think he's ever proving to be that player in his career. Can't really blame him for the price though.

I doubt he will ever prove to be a 27.5 million pound player. But he can surely be a good squad option. We had started to see glimpses of that till that tactical change, I feel.
 
Moyes mainly and Round too (even if that quote is the first I've ever read from), I suppose you're right and I was only talking about Moyes. When this season ends, someone will surely make a compilation of all the stupid things he's said.

I will be eagerly waiting for that compilation :D
 
What Carrick are you watching? He reads the game better than anyone else in this team and keeps the ball moving. This hasn't been his best season
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!

I quoted and bolded this but I dont even know how to respond to something this daft.
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!

Not sure I agree with the bolded part but he can slow our play down. Despite the criticism Fellaini gets I have seen a lot of instances where he gets the ball and swiftly makes a forward pass. Now these aren't brilliant defense-splitting passes but they are enough.
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!
I have not followed this discussion but please tell me you're taking the piss?
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!
Ridiculous. Player of the season last season. If you can't see what he does, that's your issue.
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!

I had to read back 10 posts to find out that you were talking about Carrick. So to maintain possession and dictating the tempo is equivalent to slowing our play down?
 
Ridiculous. Player of the season last season. If you can't see what he does, that's your issue.
I have not followed this discussion but please tell me you're taking the piss?
Not sure I agree with the bolded part but he can slow our play down. Despite the criticism Fellaini gets I have seen a lot of instances where he gets the ball and swiftly makes a forward pass. Now these aren't brilliant defense-splitting passes but they are enough.
I quoted and bolded this but I dont even know how to respond to something this daft.


I seem to have hit a nerve here. Let me explain my point.
When i say he is a nothing midfielder what i mean he does all things well, but nothing outstanding. His style of play seems to prove detrimental to whoever he is paired with in the middle.

Fellaini for me, is a better option as a defensive shield, however Carrick is already occupying all the areas that a natural DM would without providing the strength or defensive abilities required in that area (before anyone says - i am aware he is good at intercepting)

Cleverley (before his lack of confidence) would enjoy playing little give and go's (remember the Anderson combo [ill come to him in a moment]) however Carrick isnt the type of midfielder to be involved with quick clever 1 and 2 touch passing unless it involves a pass back to Rio or Vidic

Andersons best performances for us have been when paired with Hargo or Cleverley. In the early days when he had a true defensive midfielder behind him (Hargo) he was able to bomb forward with those surging runs we all loved. When paired with Cleverley we had 2 guys who gave each other plenty of movement off the ball and some wonderful combination play in the middle.

Ok so saying he is a nothin midfielder is harsh for me to say - maybe over the top, but i dont believe he brings anything to our team. He isnt a DM. He certainly isnt an attack minded player. He is labelled as a deep playmaker, but i dont think you can have one of those unless he is in a 3 man midfield.
His ill defined role has already seen Anderson on his way. Has destroyed Cleverley's confidence and is currently doing the same to Fellaini.
 
I seem to have hit a nerve here. Let me explain my point.
When i say he is a nothing midfielder what i mean he does all things well, but nothing outstanding. His style of play seems to prove detrimental to whoever he is paired with in the middle.

Fellaini for me, is a better option as a defensive shield, however Carrick is already occupying all the areas that a natural DM would without providing the strength or defensive abilities required in that area (before anyone says - i am aware he is good at intercepting)

Cleverley (before his lack of confidence) would enjoy playing little give and go's (remember the Anderson combo [ill come to him in a moment]) however Carrick isnt the type of midfielder to be involved with quick clever 1 and 2 touch passing unless it involves a pass back to Rio or Vidic

Andersons best performances for us have been when paired with Hargo or Cleverley. In the early days when he had a true defensive midfielder behind him (Hargo) he was able to bomb forward with those surging runs we all loved. When paired with Cleverley we had 2 guys who gave each other plenty of movement off the ball and some wonderful combination play in the middle.

Ok so saying he is a nothin midfielder is harsh for me to say - maybe over the top, but i dont believe he brings anything to our team. He isnt a DM. He certainly isnt an attack minded player. He is labelled as a deep playmaker, but i dont think you can have one of those unless he is in a 3 man midfield.
His ill defined role has already seen Anderson on his way. Has destroyed Cleverley's confidence and is currently doing the same to Fellaini.

I cant take anyone that says fellaini is a better defensive shield seriously tbf. The guy lacks so much defensively, its unreal. Suspect positionally, doesnt track runners, doesnt have anything close to Carrick's passing range yet he's better suited as the DM? How?

Ando left because he couldnt stay fit for 2 games in a row and when he did, he was wildly inconsistent. I dont know how you can say he flourished with a true defensive mid giving him the license to bomb forward and then in the same breath say he struggled because of Carrick. Doesnt Carrick sit back and mop things up thus meaning Ando could do his thing in your hypothetical scenario? And how many games did Ando play with Hargo in a middle 2? Genuine question.

Clev's confidence is shot because he doesnt have the balls to move out of his comfort zone and make an impact. I like the guy and I think he'd do much better in a system more suited to his style of play but its borderline ridiculous to say his poor form is because of Carrick. Who's stopping him from moving ahead and combining with our 4 forward players? Does Carrick being poor lead to him hiding behind players not looking for a pass?

And Fellaini? He isnt good enough to play as a defensive mid for us, bluntly put, he doesnt have the defensive qualities. Unless he really improves in that regard, I dont see him ever playing there for us. Him and Carrick are a bad pairing because they both lack the mobility but our manager should have known better, its not Carrick's fault.

And the part in bold is again, ridiculous bollocks. He brings nothing to the team? He isnt a Defensive mid? So in your book, only the ones who run around and tackle are defensive mids? How do you rate the likes of Busquets and Alonso? Nothing players?
 
Even last season when everyone was wanking over him, he was slowing our play down far to much. He is a nothing midfielder!

Oh my. Fellaini has nothing on Carrick though, absolutely nothing. Just a thug pretending to be a footballer. Carrick hasn't had a great season but he's the finest passer of the ball in the league.

If Fellaini could be a tenth of Carrick maybe he'd be a useful player for us. Moyes will push him down our throats til we get proper players and will be forced to bench him. Unless we're going the Liverpool way after 1990, Fellaini won't be here another 2 seasons.
 
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I cant take anyone that says fellaini is a better defensive shield seriously tbf. The guy lacks so much defensively, its unreal. Suspect positionally, doesnt track runners, doesnt have anything close to Carrick's passing range yet he's better suited as the DM? How?

Ando left because he couldnt stay fit for 2 games in a row and when he did, he was wildly inconsistent. I dont know how you can say he flourished with a true defensive mid giving him the license to bomb forward and then in the same breath say he struggled because of Carrick. Doesnt Carrick sit back and mop things up thus meaning Ando could do his thing in your hypothetical scenario? And how many games did Ando play with Hargo in a middle 2? Genuine question.

Clev's confidence is shot because he doesnt have the balls to move out of his comfort zone and make an impact. I like the guy and I think he'd do much better in a system more suited to his style of play but its borderline ridiculous to say his poor form is because of Carrick. Who's stopping him from moving ahead and combining with our 4 forward players? Does Carrick being poor lead to him hiding behind players not looking for a pass?

And Fellaini? He isnt good enough to play as a defensive mid for us, bluntly put, he doesnt have the defensive qualities. Unless he really improves in that regard, I dont see him ever playing there for us. Him and Carrick are a bad pairing because they both lack the mobility but our manager should have known better, its not Carrick's fault.

And the part in bold is again, ridiculous bollocks. He brings nothing to the team? He isnt a Defensive mid? So in your book, only the ones who run around and tackle are defensive mids? How do you rate the likes of Busquets and Alonso? Nothing players?


Both examples you use play in a 3 man midfield meaning the roles become slightly different.
Alonso is the nearest example to Carrick i suppose and for how good he is i dont believe he would be any use to a team that uses a 2 man midfield.
When he played at Liverpool he had Lucas or Mascherano as the muscle behind and Gerrard bombing forward, meaning he was the kind of link man.

As for Busquets, im not sure of how much Barca you have watched but he is a genuine destroyer with the ability to play a little also. For me he would be the best DM in the world.
 
Both examples you use play in a 3 man midfield meaning the roles become slightly different.
Alonso is the nearest example to Carrick i suppose and for how good he is i dont believe he would be any use to a team that uses a 2 man midfield.
When he played at Liverpool he had Lucas or Mascherano as the muscle behind and Gerrard bombing forward, meaning he was the kind of link man.

Till last year, Alonso had Khedira next to him and Ozil ahead of him. Ozil counts as a middle 3 but the likes of Mata, Kagawa and Rooney dont?

As for Busquets, im not sure of how much Barca you have watched but he is a genuine destroyer with the ability to play a little also. For me he would be the best DM in the world.

And you ask me how much of Barca I've watched, fair fecks to you :lol:.

He's very similar to Carrick in style defensively, just the much better player and in a setup that gets the best out of him.
 
Oh my. Fellaini has nothing on Carrick though, absolutely nothing. Just a thug pretending to be a footballer. Carrick hasn't had a great season but he's the finest passer of the ball in the league. His stats back him up.


Dude, he can't even cement a place in the England team.
As Guardiola said about Wilshere, there are hundreds of Carricks around.
Percentage of pass completion means nothing. Fellaini had over 90% against WBA and it still wasnt enough for people to look at the positives in his game.
 
Till last year, Alonso had Khedira next to him and Ozil ahead of him. Ozil counts as a middle 3 but the likes of Mata, Kagawa and Rooney dont?



And you ask me how much of Barca I've watched, fair fecks to you :lol:.

He's very similar to Carrick in style defensively, just the much better player and in a setup that gets the best out of him.

He's nothing like Carrick. More Hargreaves defensively.
 
Dude, he can't even cement a place in the England team.
As Guardiola said about Wilshere, there are hundreds of Carricks around.
Percentage of pass completion means nothing. Fellaini had over 90% against WBA and it still wasnt enough for people to look at the positives in his game.

Dude, you mean the underachieving English team with the lofty ambitions that never materialize? I don't give two shits for England in all honesty. Even Rooney has only played one good tournament (Euro 2004) for England. So Fellaini got 90% against WBA, hooray! How many of them were backwards passes?

How many of them were defence splitting passes? How many of them created chances for us? Compare Carricks numbers to Fellaini's side by side for the season's going back to his (Fellaini) debut and you'll see a gulf in class. Carrick was the only reliable midfielder we had last year all season.



You dont even need to watch the whole vid. The first one minute and half is enough evidence to show that Carrick can keep the play moving with quick instinctive accurate passing and with range. Something Fellaini can't do on his best day
 
He's nothing like Carrick. More Hargreaves defensively.
Dude, he can't even cement a place in the England team.
As Guardiola said about Wilshere, there are hundreds of Carricks around.
Percentage of pass completion means nothing. Fellaini had over 90% against WBA and it still wasnt enough for people to look at the positives in his game.

You're so far off the mark that its painful to even debate this.

Carrick's a nothing player, poor passer, 100s of Carrick's around, Busquets is a destroyer who can pass a little.

Carry on.
 
Dude, you mean the underachieving English team with the lofty ambitions that never materialize? I don't give two shits for England in all honesty. Even Rooney has only played one good tournament (Euro 2004) for England. So Fellaini got 90% against WBA, hooray! How many of them were backwards passes?

How many of them were defence splitting passes? How many of them created chances for us? Compare Carricks numbers to Fellaini's side by side for the season's going back to his (Fellaini) debut and you'll see a gulf in class. Carrick was the only reliable midfielder we had last year all season.
Please see the part of my post that says % pass completion means nothing. You were the one who brought it up.

The bolded part is increadibly ironic in a debate that compares Fellaini to Michael (Get the ball, look up, spot a run, ignore it, pass it to Rio) Carrick.

Are people not allowed an opinion???
If Carrick played for anyone else, there would be absolutley zero 'love in' for him on this forum.
 
Carrick has made close 350 apps for a team that won 5 Premier Leagues, 1 Cl and been to 2 cl finals. Saying that there are like 100 players like him is daft. He has been consistent enough to be a starter for a top team. He's not in the Scholes/Xavi/Pirlo bracket but apart from those 3 I can't think of that long list of midfielders that have been better in the last 8 years.
 
Please see the part of my post that says % pass completion means nothing. You were the one who brought it up.

The bolded part is increadibly ironic in a debate that compares Fellaini to Michael (Get the ball, look up, spot a run, ignore it, pass it to Rio) Carrick.

Are people not allowed an opinion???
If Carrick played for anyone else, there would be absolutley zero 'love in' for him on this forum.

Carrick was the best FORWARD passer of the ball in Europe last season. Thats right Europe, he even outpassed Xavi in this respect. Players like Pirlo, Xavi himself and Alonso have all heaped praise on Carrick and are admitted admirers. Not bad for a nothing footballer eh?

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/michael-carrick-is-the-best-forward-passer-in-europe/

So you can say whatever you want about Carrick, everything you've said so far is wrong and the facts prove it. Fellaini is the nothing player here.
 
Carrick was the best FORWARD passer of the ball in Europe last season. Thats right Europe, he even outpassed Xavi in this respect. Players like Pirlo, Xavi himself and Alonso have all heaped praise on Carrick and are admitted admirers. Not bad for a nothing footballer eh?

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/michael-carrick-is-the-best-forward-passer-in-europe/

So you can say whatever you want about Carrick, everything you've said so far is wrong and the facts prove it. Fellaini is the nothing player here.


If were pulling stats about forward passes, backward passes, tackles, interceptions bla bla bla why not incude assists, goals scored, chances created, mistakes leading to goals. average position when recieving the ball.... i could go on but i dont care about stats. If stats were to be a true reflection of a players worth... Lampard is twice the player Scholes ever was, and that simply isnt true.
I see the game with my own eyes and am wise enough to make my own judgement on a player. Wether its an unpopular opinion or not, i dont care. My belief is that Carrick is a problem for us that needs addressing. Whilst he ticks most boxes, he doesnt excel in any and that isnt good enough to be first choice for us if we are to move on to the next level. IMO.
 
If were pulling stats about forward passes, backward passes, tackles, interceptions bla bla bla why not incude assists, goals scored, chances created, mistakes leading to goals. average position when recieving the ball.... i could go on but i dont care about stats. If stats were to be a true reflection of a players worth... Lampard is twice the player Scholes ever was, and that simply isnt true.
I see the game with my own eyes and am wise enough to make my own judgement on a player. Wether its an unpopular opinion or not, i dont care. My belief is that Carrick is a problem for us that needs addressing. Whilst he ticks most boxes, he doesnt excel in any and that isnt good enough to be first choice for us if we are to move on to the next level. IMO.

You're welcome to your opinions as is everyone else. Yours are simply flawed, thats one of my opinions. Stats are facts, you can't dismiss them. You said Carrick slowed us down, I showed a video of his performances last season showing him making quick passes and creating attacks. Squakwa proves that he was the best forward passer in all of Europe last season, thats not something you can dismiss. Even in assists and in chances created Carrick kills Fellaini.

If Carrick isn't good enough for us what does that make Fellaini? A player who can't make a through ball to save his life in a red shirt. A player who gets out jumped by players shorter than him. A player who jogs back when he gets beaten and is poor off the ball. A player who who runs with the ball sideways til its out of play instead of just clearing it and saving energy. A player who looks scared of the ball and is terrible under pressure, you've seen the Cisse calamity against Newcastle im sure. Carrick has been a part of a very successful United team and will always be the better player by country miles. Its no wonder you're in the minority, because anyone with eyes can see Carrick is the better player and anyone can with eyes can see that his positives outweigh his cons. You don't have a leg to stand on in this debate. We'll just agree to disagree. I tell you this, Fellaini won't last here long. Two seasons max.
 
If were pulling stats about forward passes, backward passes, tackles, interceptions bla bla bla why not incude assists, goals scored, chances created, mistakes leading to goals. average position when recieving the ball.... i could go on but i dont care about stats. If stats were to be a true reflection of a players worth... Lampard is twice the player Scholes ever was, and that simply isnt true.
I see the game with my own eyes and am wise enough to make my own judgement on a player. Wether its an unpopular opinion or not, i dont care. My belief is that Carrick is a problem for us that needs addressing. Whilst he ticks most boxes, he doesnt excel in any and that isnt good enough to be first choice for us if we are to move on to the next level. IMO.

Theres a lot of balance and truth in your points - no surprise they're not welcome here. Carrick did have a good season last year but this year is more his norm. The trophy count is strawman as per, are we saying Carrick is better than Gerrard?


Fellani had a better season than carrick last year even if it was one of Carricks best.

Carrick is capable and showed it with a strong game last week against Bayern, for some reason all to often he goes into his shell.

I like him as a player but I feel his mentality stops him really controlling games week in week out, and being a major player for his country.
 
You're welcome to your opinions as is everyone else. Yours are simply flawed, thats one of my opinions. Stats are facts, you can't dismiss them. You said Carrick slowed us down, I showed a video of his performances last season showing him making quick passes and creating attacks. Squakwa proves that he was the best forward passer in all of Europe last season, thats not something you can dismiss. Even in assists and in chances created Carrick kills Fellaini.

If Carrick isn't good enough for us what does that make Fellaini? A player who can't make a through ball to save his life in a red shirt. A player who gets out jumped by players shorter than him. A player who jogs back when he gets beaten and is poor off the ball. A player who who runs with the ball sideways til its out of play instead of just clearing it and saving energy. A player who looks scared of the ball and is terrible under pressure, you've seen the Cisse calamity against Newcastle im sure. Carrick has been a part of a very successful United team and will always be the better player by country miles. Its no wonder you're in the minority, because anyone with eyes can see Carrick is the better player and anyone can with eyes can see that his positives outweigh his cons. You don't have a leg to stand on in this debate. We'll just agree to disagree. I tell you this, Fellaini won't last here long. Two seasons max.

And a lot of these people who say give him his chance, have probably never seen Fellaini play CM before he was signed. He is no improvement on what we already had and no amount of time will change that. He actually makes our team worse. Some even blame Carrick, but he's has been overused this season. He is not the problem.
 
Theres a lot of balance and truth in your points - no surprise they're not welcome here. Carrick did have a good season last year but this year is more his norm. The trophy count is strawman as per, are we saying Carrick is better than Gerrard?


Fellani had a better season than carrick last year even if it was one of Carricks best.

Carrick is capable and showed it with a strong game last week against Bayern, for some reason all to often he goes into his shell.

I like him as a player but I feel his mentality stops him really controlling games week in week out, and being a major player for his country.

How was Fellaini better? Because he was played effectively as a target man? Please tell me
 
Theres a lot of balance and truth in your points - no surprise they're not welcome here. Carrick did have a good season last year but this year is more his norm. The trophy count is strawman as per, are we saying Carrick is better than Gerrard?


Fellani had a better season than carrick last year even if it was one of Carricks best.

Carrick is capable and showed it with a strong game last week against Bayern, for some reason all to often he goes into his shell.

I like him as a player but I feel his mentality stops him really controlling games week in week out, and being a major player for his country.

You must be on a WUM. When has Fellaini played in Carrick's position or playing like a DM and received high notice?

You do know where Fellaini played for Everton do you?
 
How was Fellaini better? Because he was played effectively as a target man? Please tell me

Correct. And since when do we play hoofball? Fellaini sometimes played CM for Everton but was never anything special there. This is why we shouldn't have gone anywhere near him.
 
Correct. And since when do we play hoofball? Fellaini sometimes played CM for Everton but was never anything special there. This is why we shouldn't have gone anywhere near him.

Too right. Even Everton's U-18 coach wasn't a fan of Hoof the ball up to Fellaini. If Fellaini was any good as a CM Everton would never had changed his role. They had to find a way to make him useful and being light upfront gave him that opportunity. Its all about his size and so called world class chest control. Beggars belief that any top side would play this guy. I give him two seasons here max, there's no way we should be paying a squad player that much even in this market
 
Fellaini sometimes played CM for Everton but was never anything special there. This is why we shouldn't have gone anywhere near him.

You must be on a WUM. When has Fellaini played in Carrick's position or playing like a DM and received high notice?

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/01/18/marouane-fellaini-superb-in-a-deep-lying-role-for-everton/

A while ago perhaps, but shows he can do it and I have no doubt he can do it again after he is given time to settle.

Also Fellaini has been voted MOTM for us on here and received high praise for some DM performances already this season:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-everton-h.380225/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-wba-a.386162/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-crystal-palace-a.385306/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-real-sociedad.379158/
 
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http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/01/18/marouane-fellaini-superb-in-a-deep-lying-role-for-everton/

A while ago perhaps, but shows he can do it and I have no doubt he can do it again after he is given time to settle.

Also Fellaini has been voted MOTM for us on here and received high praise for some DM performances already this season:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-everton-h.380225/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-wba-a.386162/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-crystal-palace-a.385306/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/motm-vs-real-sociedad.379158/

Can he do it against top quality opposition? Allen and Hendersen showed him up and they are average players playing under good management. I don't even know why he was nominated for MOTM against Everton because we were so lethargic that day. Fellaini was overan by his ex teammates. How much time does a 26 year old who has played in the same league for 6 years under the same manager need to settle? This is not his level. He's not even Everton under Martinez level. Stoke city or bust.
 
Bizzare, I have a mate who thinks he's our first choice CM this season and looking on here it's clear that some people seem to agree with that, or at least think he's putting in good performances. I think with some people they put their neck on the line about players before they join, and then rather than admitting they were wrong simply turn a blind eye. I don't see how anyway can say without taking the piss, that Fellaini has put in good performances against Liverpool, City and Bayern in the last few weeks. Every single one of his negative attributes, and overall lack of ability was exposed in those three games. Less so in the other league matches we've had in between, but still many of these traits are still on display in these games, just less ruthlessly exposed by the opposition. When he got dispossessed prior to his substitution against Newcastle, that moment summed him up in an instant. And after it happens he just stands there, incredible.
 
Love the comments from Round and Moyes. :lol:

Fellaini must be the only 25m+ midfielder who doesn't have an actual midfield position. At age 26. Bizarre that Moyes would buy him when it's not at all clear what problems he is meant to solve.
 
He has not performed to his best against the top clubs, but against the smaller regular league teams he has done really well, and personally I think helped us go on our good run of results recently.

Whether he was worth the money is a different matter, but he has helped us get extra bodies that we needed. I certainly think he's been more effective than Cleverley or Anderson anyway.
 
SSN have just confirmed Fellaini hasn't trained as he went off against Newcastle feeling dizzy.
 
SSN have just confirmed Fellaini hasn't trained as he went off against Newcastle feeling dizzy.
Is Fellaini our comic relief this season? if so what a genius move by Moyes, he knew wed have a torrid time so bought someone in who we can all laugh about. Sooner hes sold, the better.
 
To be fair to Fellaini he does manage a dozen keepie ups in a row here although he loses the ball at 2:15

 
He has not performed to his best against the top clubs, but against the smaller regular league teams he has done really well, and personally I think helped us go on our good run of results recently.

Whether he was worth the money is a different matter, but he has helped us get extra bodies that we needed. I certainly think he's been more effective than Cleverley or Anderson anyway.

No, that's been Kagawa, Mata and Rooney.

I genuinely hope that some of you in this thread aren't being serious. Fellaini didn't even play in CM for most of last season, he was playing as a target man. I hope you're seriously not comparing his season to Carrick. You know the guy in the team that pissed the league by 11 points without any good midfield partner? The one in team of the year?

What has it come to that we're talking up a guy who's had about four good performances against dross, and who's manager for the last seven years can only praise his chest control, over someone who's been a mainstay in our midfield for seven years, which we've won the league five times and missed out twice by a combined total of one point and we've reached three champions league finals.

"The midfielder has excelled this term, prompting Sir Alex Ferguson to describe this season as Carrick's "best ever for Manchester United."

Every member of the first team squad was asked to vote for their star man of the campaign and they unanimously voted Carrick as their Player of the Year."


And some of you think Fellaini had a better season? FFS
 
Love the comments from Round and Moyes. :lol:

Fellaini must be the only 25m+ midfielder who doesn't have an actual midfield position. At age 26. Bizarre that Moyes would buy him when it's not at all clear what problems he is meant to solve.
He's actually added to them.
 
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