Marek Hamsik
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I think he is not so good as we're thinking
You are wrong. He is more than capable of playing at United.
He is a Lampard with dribblling skill. He'd be a great long term midfield purchase for a big side.
Chelsea need wide players, not midfielders, I doubt he'd be a priority for Ancellotti.
Us on the other hand, could really do with the lad. I don't rate him as highly as others do but I'd still take him in a heartbeat.
Us on the other hand, could really do with the lad. I don't rate him as highly as others do but I'd still take him in a heartbeat.
Not what we need most IMO. We need someone who will run the game for us. Someone who will want the ball consistently, have the technical skill to receive it in tight spaces and then pull the strings. Hamsik seems to be on the periphery of games for majority of the time from what I've seen.
So basically, we need Roy Keane? 
Ideally we need more than 1 midfielder, we need a playmaker/goal scorer too, unless SAF continues to put all of his faith in Anderson.
Ideally we need more than 1 midfielder, we need a playmaker/goal scorer too, unless SAF continues to put all of his faith in Anderson.
So basically, we need Roy Keane?
Ideally we need more than 1 midfielder, we need a playmaker/goal scorer too, unless SAF continues to put all of his faith in Anderson.
Still feel we'll bid for Modric. We'll go for someone proven in the PL rather than a player like Hamsik who's very hyped
So basically, we need Roy Keane?
Ideally we need more than 1 midfielder, we need a playmaker/goal scorer too, unless SAF continues to put all of his faith in Anderson.
Or a Paul Scholes
I think we do need two.
Question is, is it:
a) Goal scoring midfielder + playmaking midielder
b) Playmaking midfielder + Will physically destroy you midfielder
c) Goal scoring midfielder + Will physically destroy you midfielder
Obviously assuming we're not finding any of those abilities together in one player.
Well Modric is everyones preferred option of course, but Spurs have a tendency to rape us for cash. Do we really want to fork out £40m+?
The likes of Hamsik, Defour, Sahin wouldn't be nearly as much.
The likes of Hamsik, Defour, Sahin wouldn't be nearly as much.
You're right about the fee but I don't know enough about the players mentioned( Hamsik apart) to really pass judgement.
I just feel SAF has in mind a player in the PL who'll slip into our system without too much fuss and that it'll be a a bit of a surprise though not a major one.Look, I was surprised when he went for Carrick but he'd seen enough to know that he was what Utd needed
Not sure Modric is my preferred option. He's an excellent player, but there are others around. Sahin looks to have excellent potential, not that I know enough about him, and Hamsik is definitely more of a goal threat. There are other potential options too.
I think he's the safe option, proven in the PL and pretty much what we need. SAF may be a bit concerned about getting a foreigner in, we need someone who'll definitely make an impact next season. Look at how poor Ando is getting on!
Yes I'd prefer someone who can make an impact fairly soon even if he's not at his peak for a few years, rather than someone whose got the tools to work with but will take a good 2 or 3 years to make a proper impact.
Unfortunately I can't see us signing any midfielder in the summer unless Scholes decides to retire.
Why would you say that? I'd be very surprised if we don't sign a midfielder in the summer.
He's not very gettable anyway.
Who? Hamsik or Modric?
Modric.
Hamsik maybe as well, depending on Napoli's end of season.
Hamsik maybe as well, depending on Napoli's end of season.
Modric is not worth the fee that United would have to cough up, 30m-40m, no chance
It'd almost certainly be more than that considering his contract position Geebs, and I agree he's not worth it.
we could get two very good players for the price of one Modric
I have never seen this guy play well.
I think he is Geebs. He's the type of player that becomes the hub of the team. Everything goes through him. It may not translate into direct assists and goals, but that sort of player is priceless to a team.
In my opinion, he's the heir to Scholes - there is such similarity in their games. He reads the game superbly (makes a shed load of clever interceptions), he passes it beautifully long and short and he is happy to show for the ball and receive it under pressure.
Given fees that have been paid for other players - £30-40m for Modric would be fully fair. This is the man we HAVE to get in.
Edit: Most important, he's got the engine to play week in, week out - something Scholes can't do anymore.
Would be no less than £40m and no guarantee we could get him even for that.
Plus, is he really going to step up to the top level, because I don't think he has yet?
Plus, is he really going to step up to the top level, because I don't think he has yet?
We won't get him for £30m and I think even £40m might not be enough in current market if Tottenham qualify for Champions League for next season. Closer to £45m.
I'd definitely not want him at that price, we could spend money better elsewhere.
You talking about Modric or Hamsik here? Modric has shown a lot of mettle against the top sides in the PL and in the CL games, while Bale and VDV were getting the ink, it was Modric that was at the heart of Spurs. He's more than enough shown he doesn't shrink away in games, even the big ones.
Hamsik - only really watched him a little in the WC and an odd Napoli game here and there - not sure what the hype is about but, there is definitely some smoke when his name is mentioned as a target of ours.
If he is the type of player that can really play well under pressure and want the ball and make things happen, as others have said - don't matter to me the name - that's the type of player right now that will improve our CM.
For attacking CM we have Giggs, Park, Ando. For sitting CM we have Carrick/Scholes and for harrying type CM we have Fletcher. That actually highlights the fact that we need a second Fletcher as we don't have Hargo option. Scholes is the only CM that is the type to really try take control of a game - so guess we need 2 CM. 1 for sure if Scholes retires.
I was talking about Modric. Hamsik wouldn't be much cheaper though.
People seem to assume we can just buy any Spurs players we want. I don't think so.
I don't disagree we need a player like Modric, though.
People seem to assume we can just buy any Spurs players we want. I don't think so.
I don't disagree we need a player like Modric, though.
Or a Paul Scholes
I think we do need two.
Question is, is it:
a) Goal scoring midfielder + playmaking midielder
b) Playmaking midfielder + Will physically destroy you midfielder
c) Goal scoring midfielder + Will physically destroy you midfielder
Obviously assuming we're not finding any of those abilities together in one player.
I would definitely say option b.
The key thing is to get a really top footballer. You know, not just a good footballer but a really fecking good footballer.
Yeah Hamsik we could have got maybe last season. This season they are in second and he is going to get Champions League football anyway. So I m not sure it is going to be easy to get him either.
You seem to talk like you see him play week in week out and he is shit.
Hamsik is a Lampard type player no doubt, but as the chief said, he can actually dribble too which is correct.
Actually, you can say that Hamsik is the type of MF which has the energy to run up and down field, will do a good job defensively and will go up there and attack, he gets into very good positions and he definitely is classified as a MF that will get you goals.
Why is he so hyped ?
Because the lad has all the skills to be a top player, not to mention a physique and attitude to succeed.
Hamsik vs Modric, both great players, both will definitely bolster our squad, Hamsik has to be cheaper than 30m if Napoli don't make it to the CL... I like Hamsik more, not that I don't rate Modric, but Hamsik has more in the tank for me...
But if we're talking about Scholes, Modric would probably adapt and fit in right away and would probably be less risky with the experience he has...
For the long run, no one can deny that Pastore probably has more talent than both... but probably not realistic as he probably dreams of Barca... And a bigger risk
Rumours from Italy are that Chelsea will be coming in for him.
No, I don't.
To be fair they were bound to be linked with him sooner or later and it makes perfect sense because they need a creative midfielder badly. We won't sign him anyway so it doesn't bother me all that much to see him rumoured to be on his way to City.
Ive said it numerous times. He is the real deal. Hes not afraid to put in a tackle, he can shoot, has a very good range of passing, is well build for a english football.
Moreover Hamsik is not a lazy bastard who stands and waits for a ball, he works hard to get the ball back. Defo capable of playing in a midf. of two.
Hamsik, Jones, De Gea and a winger ( my choice would be Guardado) makes us sorted for years.
Moreover Hamsik is not a lazy bastard who stands and waits for a ball, he works hard to get the ball back. Defo capable of playing in a midf. of two.
Hamsik, Jones, De Gea and a winger ( my choice would be Guardado) makes us sorted for years.
He is the missing piece of the puzzle for City. I sure hope they don't bag him.
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