Marcus Thuram | signed for Inter

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Widow said:
Underwhelming. Probably because the faith in Tony is serverly lacking and Thuram isn't going to be the saviour we need.
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We don't need a January signing to be the saviour though. We're looking for somebody who is serviceable and can see us through until the summer.

I'd be pretty content with anyone like Thuram. He's scored a lot of goals this season, looks like he'd make a nuisance of himself for defenders and crucially, wouldn't cost much. Getting even a half decent striker in could be the difference between top 4 or not, another injury to Martial or even Rashford would put us in hot water.
 
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He didn't had a good World Cup but he is generally a decent presser. Though it is one of the players that got sick.
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Ah yes, it was hard to judge with that in the background. Good to know.
 
I don’t know some posters are thinking we’re signing him as our ideal visionary CF to lead the line both present and future. He’s a solid rotational piece that we need for depth, that I think will do pretty well. I still see us going for Ramos/Sesko/Vlahovic/insert dream signing here either this or next summer.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
Despite having a good 10 goals in 15 games this season, Thuram's previous seasons read:

21/22 - 3 goals in 21 matches.
20/21 - 8 goals in 29 matches.
19/20 - 10 goals in 31 matches.

Muani's don't read much better.
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This is his first season playing solely as a striker to be fair. Mostly 50/50 striker and left winger in those seasons you mention
 
He's an athletic beast but I don't think he has much else besides that going for him.

Would be free in the summer so perhaps a back up option then because I don't think he'll make much of a difference in our top 4 pursuit.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
Despite having a good 10 goals in 15 games this season, Thuram's previous seasons read:

21/22 - 3 goals in 21 matches.
20/21 - 8 goals in 29 matches.
19/20 - 10 goals in 31 matches.

Muani's don't read much better.
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21/22 almost 500 less minutes played than this season’s 15.
20/21 he seemed to toss in the towel, isn’t really excusable, but that goes for the entire team as they took a fat shit and just wasn’t the same as the previous season, probably with rumors swirling of Rose’s departure.
19/20 18 goal contributions at 22 in the BuLi across the front 3 isn’t something to turn your nose up at.

To repeat again, this is an EMCP we’re signing here, not Lewa. Why anyone thinks it’s the latter is just :wenger:
 
King Kendrick said:
I don’t know some posters are thinking we’re signing him as our ideal visionary CF to lead the line both present and future. He’s a solid rotational piece that we need for depth, that I think will do pretty well. I still see us going for Ramos/Sesko/Vlahovic/insert dream signing here either this or next summer.
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Yeah hopefully new ownership will enable us to go big for a top class number 9 in the summer
 
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Reading the thread and what alot of you think about Thuram Jr. It seems that it's divided and I think there is a valid argument with both sides of the coin, him being a £15M or less signing means it is a punt on a player who we will need to provide cover in ST role.

But, I am wary of his actual quality, even for a lowly fee like £15M, does he even have the quality to be effective to some extent? That I am not sure of.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
Reading the thread and what alot of you think about Thuram Jr. It seems that it's divided and I think there is a valid argument with both sides of the coin, him being a £15M or less signing means it is a punt on a player who we will need to provide cover in ST role.

But, I am wary of his actual quality, even for a lowly fee like £15M, does he even have the quality to be effective to some extent? That I am not sure of.
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I am intrigued to see what Erik could get out of him but also totally understand your point
 
dal said:
He is similar to Martial however has more fire in his belly and presses really well.

It’s a very sensible option, we will probably have to pay £15 million.

I think we only sign him if we are looking to sell Martial in the summer if we sign a CF, wouldn’t mind that at all.
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People say this alot but often don't realize that there aren't that many footballers around with Martials natural talent with the ball at feet / carrying amidst tight spaces.
 
I have only seen him in the WC and he looked a bit cumbersome to me but 10mil for a 25yo French international striker seems like a good deal in our current predicament but if we show interest I would bet it won't me 10mil.
 
well he made France WC squad, martial didn’t but that was obvs down to injuries bur even still I don’t think he’d of made it. think he’ll be a good option for us and add some squad depth. 2nd top goalscorer in bundesliga.
 
King Kendrick said:
I don’t know some posters are thinking we’re signing him as our ideal visionary CF to lead the line both present and future. He’s a solid rotational piece that we need for depth, that I think will do pretty well. I still see us going for Ramos/Sesko/Vlahovic/insert dream signing here either this or next summer.
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Wrote this before, but if we sign Thuram, then barring an injury i'd expect us to be in for a striker in the summer, not pull the trigger and wait until 2024 and see if Kane is available on a free or someone like Sesko or the kid at Atalanta or Ramos solidifies their status and we just spend a huge figure then instead of getting them for slightly cheaper now but less sure they won't flop. Also maybe someone crazy like Lewandowski becomes available with Barca's money troubles, or Vlahovic as you say, or hell Mbappe if that blows up and Madrid have moved on and he wants to come to the Prem, or more realistically, Osimhen with one year to go on his deal in the summer of 2024 comes here for a big price but not an insane one.
 
Bondi77 said:
I have only seen him in the WC and he looked a bit cumbersome to me but 10mil for a 25yo French international striker seems like a good deal in our current predicament but if we show interest I would bet it won't me 10mil.
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Yeah, he did look a bit cumbersome. I'm no Bundesliga expert, but my guess is Deschamps got it right and he's better at most pure #9 stuff than Kolo Muani but not as dangerous an overall player. So I'd probably rather gamble on Kolo Muani's speed, leap and just not having had the same quality of coaching/training as Lilian Thuram's kid meaning he has more to show and isn't fully developed. Also Kolo Muani has progressed from a 1 in 4 guy to a 1 in 3 guy, whereas Thuram might just be in the best form of his career. Kolo Muani seems to be on more of a straight line of improvement.

Thuram feels like a Morata (who I like more than most on here), but Kolo Muani more likely to actually blossom into the starting #9 we need, though he'd cost more, and I'm basing this on seeing them like 6 or 7 times each including the World Cup, and forwards can be tougher to judge than midfielders who you see get 70 touches a game.
 
NoPace said:
Yeah, he did look a bit cumbersome. I'm no Bundesliga expert, but my guess is Deschamps got it right and he's better at most pure #9 stuff than Kolo Muani but not as dangerous an overall player. So I'd probably rather gamble on Kolo Muani's speed, leap and just not having had the same quality of coaching/training as Lilian Thuram's kid meaning he has more to show and isn't fully developed. Also Kolo Muani has progressed from a 1 in 4 guy to a 1 in 3 guy, whereas Thuram might just be in the best form of his career. Kolo Muani seems to be on more of a straight line of improvement.

Thuram feels like a Morata (who I like more than most on here), but Kolo Muani more likely to actually blossom into the starting #9 we need, though he'd cost more, and I'm basing this on seeing them like 6 or 7 times each including the World Cup, and forwards can be tougher to judge than midfielders who you see get 70 touches a game.
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But the issue is finance from what I have read so that would rule out Muani in January.
 
If he's really gettable for 15m, I'm more than fine with this. He's a quality player who should be a useful addition to the squad. Compared to what we can generally expect to get for that kind of money in January, that looks a very good deal to me.
 
How is his hold up play?
Also, ETH seemed to suggest we are looking for a bench player.
 
Adisa said:
How is his hold up play?
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This is what I like to know as well.

If it's utter crap like Ronaldo's then I rather we find someone else.

I saw a short YT of his 13 goals this season, in seems like he likes to go 'round the keeper in 1v1 situations, that I like.
 
Only thing that concerns me is what kind of contract do we give him ? considering we will also sign a striker in the summer

He won't come for a loan and he won't sign a short term contract, so what do we do ?
 
El Jefe said:
Is it possible we sign two strikers? One in Jan and another in the summer. We can sell Martial in the summer and Thuram can take his place as the backup/rotation striker.
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It's the sensible thing to do, which is why I don't understand why some people seem to think it's one or the other. Bring in somebody now who is good enough to rotate with Martial, and then if Martial's injury woes continue (which unfortunately I think they will) then the new guy can become the outright #2 when we sign our first choice in the summer. We simply can not continue with our striker (whether first or second choice) being as injury-prone as what Martial seems to be, despite how highly I actually do rate him.

The only issue will be if Martial stays fit and in form for the rest of this season. That then puts us in the position whether we go into next season planning on Martial being our main guy (or perhaps #2 if the guy we sign now performs really well) and potentially getting caught out if he starts getting injured again, or whether we still sign a top choice striker in the summer and go forward with three strikers which might be overkill.
 
MadDogg said:
It's the sensible thing to do, which is why I don't understand why some people seem to think it's one or the other. Bring in somebody now who is good enough to rotate with Martial, and then if Martial's injury woes continue (which unfortunately I think they will) then the new guy can become the outright #2 when we sign our first choice in the summer.
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If we don't sell Sancho, I don't think we'll sign a 3rd #9, since we'd have 3 quality LW options and Antony and I expect Amad on the right, though I guess he could just go out on loan again to say a Serie A , Ligue 1 or La Liga or even Prem team.

Really the obvious thing to do is have Sancho get some form back, then sell him to Newcastle or West Ham for 55M and use the money on an expensive and durable #9, but life isn't FIFA or FM.

As it is, if we have a 3rd striker next year, my guess is it will be a random veteran on a free like Jordan Ayew (he's not good exactly, but he works his ass off defensively and has some size and mobility), Dzeko, Giroud, Modeste or El Kaabi, looking at the guys available on free transfers who still have some goals left in them. Or a completely random Eredivisie player like whoever Jens Odgaard is, costing like 5M, or an 18 or 19 year old striker who plays with the U-23s and is developed but gets the odd game if Martial is hurt, which could be literally any highly rated teen on any continent.
 
i`m not against signing this guy...we need a back up striker and he could fit the bill nicely almost like a Saha. Provided we still get a first choice no9 in the summer.
Rashford is clearly best off the left and Martial is always injured. Think he is a better option that Felix who I just can`t see as striker.
 
At 6’4” with speed, strength and a few goals this year as a striker, he seems like a decent back up/challenger.
 
Devil1 said:
At 6’4” with speed, strength and a few goals this year as a striker, he seems like a decent back up/challenger.
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Agreed. We really lack physical presence in forward positions. Even an average striker who's big, strong and fast can cause enough chaos and stress to defences to open up opportunities for others.

Not that I think he's good enough to be our starting 9, but surely he's more than good enough as squad depth at striker/LW. Then we'll see how Martial and Sancho respond to the competition.
 
Drizzle said:
Agreed. We really lack physical presence in forward positions. Even an average striker who's big, strong and fast can cause enough chaos and stress to defences to open up opportunities for others.

Not that I think he's good enough to be our starting 9, but surely he's more than good enough as squad depth at striker/LW. Then we'll see how Martial and Sancho respond to the competition.
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His physical presence and size alone should help occupy the CBs and therefore open up space for the likes of fernandes and anthony/rashford off the wings. We do lack a physical presence up front. Also at 6'4 he will be useful in defending corners.

All for this transfer, hope it happens. We need depth for striker positions. Not everyone of them can be a elite WC player.
 
I have a feeling ETH wants Felix and we will go for Thuram if we fail to agree acceptable loan fee for Joao

If we do sign him I'm looking forward to Martial throwing hissy fits when Thuram starts ahead of him
 
No... no, no, no.

Needs to sharpen up his game considerably before even thinking about paying the subsequent over-price-could-be-£75m for him. Nothing about him that makes me think he'll add much, although his attitude seems good. He'll create a sense of disruption, and run the line, physically work a centre-half partnership etc. Martial doesn't do that, Sancho doesn't do that, Antony doesn't do that, and we do need that. But I wouldn't suggest that's what we need to address our goalscoring issues. He isn't outstandingly prolific either. We need a proven, experienced No 9, not (another...) project.
 
Jeffthered said:
No... no, no, no.

Needs to sharpen up his game considerably before even thinking about paying the subsequent over-price-could-be-£75m for him. Nothing about him that makes me think he'll add much, although his attitude seems good. He'll create a sense of disruption, and run the line, physically work a centre-half partnership etc. Martial doesn't do that, Sancho doesn't do that, Antony doesn't do that, and we do need that. But I wouldn't suggest that's what we need to address our goalscoring issues. He isn't outstandingly prolific either. We need a proven, experienced No 9, not (another...) project.
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Where’s the 75 million come from?
 
Jeffthered said:
No... no, no, no.

Needs to sharpen up his game considerably before even thinking about paying the subsequent over-price-could-be-£75m for him. Nothing about him that makes me think he'll add much, although his attitude seems good. He'll create a sense of disruption, and run the line, physically work a centre-half partnership etc. Martial doesn't do that, Sancho doesn't do that, Antony doesn't do that, and we do need that. But I wouldn't suggest that's what we need to address our goalscoring issues. He isn't outstandingly prolific either. We need a proven, experienced No 9, not (another...) project.
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We need cover for Martial.
And we need it cheap.

This is the level of player for this scenario.
Although please feel free to suggest a WC alternative that meets the criteria.
 
Rockets Redglare said:
Where’s the 75 million come from?
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It's just an inevitable figure I added, because it will be something like that, right?

£100m for Grealish. £100m for Antony. £73 for Sancho. £90m for Dembele @ Barca. These are daft figures, so there's a trend.
 
Jeffthered said:
It's just an inevitable figure I added, because it will be something like that, right?

£100m for Grealish. £100m for Antony. £73 for Sancho. £90m for Dembele @ Barca. These are daft figures, so there's a trend.
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Thuram's contract is up in the summer, he won't go for anything close to those fees. The reports in Germany are that he'll be gettable for €10-15m.
 
Jeffthered said:
It's just an inevitable figure I added, because it will be something like that, right?

£100m for Grealish. £100m for Antony. £73 for Sancho. £90m for Dembele @ Barca. These are daft figures, so there's a trend.
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If the conversation is about Thuram he has 6 months left on the contract so 15 and less should be the ball park
 
Jeffthered said:
It's just an inevitable figure I added, because it will be something like that, right?

£100m for Grealish. £100m for Antony. £73 for Sancho. £90m for Dembele @ Barca. These are daft figures, so there's a trend.
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A "trend" that doesn't apply to Thuram.
 
Anyone know what hes like in the box? Contrary to some I think Anthony has played some very good balls into the box this season but our players aren't the type to get on the end of them. If this guy is someone who can be trusted to be in those sort of positions then I'm all for it for that price. At the price quoted I won't expect him to displace Martial but instead be a good option from the bench. Something we absolutely lack at CF. Get Jadon back, hopefully, in good form and our options are good for the rest of the season.
 
Jeffthered said:
It's just an inevitable figure I added, because it will be something like that, right?

£100m for Grealish. £100m for Antony. £73 for Sancho. £90m for Dembele @ Barca. These are daft figures, so there's a trend.
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I think you believe you’re in the Joao Felix thread mate.
 
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