Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan

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Is a loan move that great for us? If he's shite our chances of being able to sell diminish.
 
Is a loan move that great for us? If he's shite our chances of being able to sell diminish.
It’s either a loan with a % of wages paid, or nothing.

Nobody is buying him in the next 48 hours.
 
Sad ending to his time here. My favourite player post SAF and a one man army at his best. Loved seeing him break through and inject some excitement and unpredictability into the team. Played through injuries for us and used his fame to make a difference off the pitch. For that, he will always be a legend in my eyes.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t exactly covered himself in glory for the past few years. I have no doubt his injuries have sapped him of some pace and confidence but it’s been clear to everyone with a pair of eyes that he has not been putting in maximum effort on the pitch (and probably not on the training pitch either). Add to that some of his off field antics and it’s hard not to be disappointed with him.

He’s just a shadow of himself nowadays and seems to have lost the love for football. I think it’s the right decision for everyone that he leaves and tries to find it somewhere else. I wish him nothing but the best!
 
Sad ending to his time here. My favourite player post SAF and a one man army at his best. Loved seeing him break through and inject some excitement and unpredictability into the team. Played through injuries for us and used his fame to make a difference off the pitch. For that, he will always be a legend in my eyes.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t exactly covered himself in glory for the past few years. I have no doubt his injuries have sapped him of some pace and confidence but it’s been clear to everyone with a pair of eyes that he has not been putting in maximum effort on the pitch (and probably not on the training pitch either). Add to that some of his off field antics and it’s hard not to be disappointed with him.

He’s just a shadow of himself nowadays and seems to have lost the love for football. I think it’s the right decision for everyone that he leaves and tries to find it somewhere else. I wish him nothing but the best!
Very good post and summary. Sums up my feelings about this situation perfectly.

Wish you all the best Rashy, what a rollercoaster it has been.
 
Is a loan move that great for us? If he's shite our chances of being able to sell diminish.

There is not too many alternative solutions, though.

Happy he's gone. I look forward to at least a tiny bit less United-related BS out there, seems MR has generated far too much of that.

I think he'll struggle at Villa and will fall out with Emery sooner rather than later. But I hope he does great and we sell him for a decent amount of money in summer.

Will always remember the Midtjylland game and some good moments but it won't change the fact that he is who I feel the most disappointed by in my 25 years of supporting United.
 
What on earth are you on about?

Amorim got this spot on.

Getting rid of the ones that do not give 100%.

Find it really strange that you want to keep someone who clearly cares more about their ego than the club.

Thank feck Amorim is in charge and not you.

Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.
 
Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.

Based on ability no doubt Rashford can still contribute to this team even with his other issues but there is a much bigger play here. He's one of if not the club's top earner, a youth product and his attitude stinks.

If he goes in the summer along with Casemiro, that'll bring in line a much lower overall wage structure (probably leaving Bruno as the top earner), more profit on the books for a bigger transfer budget and a cultural reset.

I and I'm sure others are slightly sad it's come to this but it's objectively a good thing for Utd. Now it's up the board to get some players in for Amorim in the long term to make this play 'work'. That's assuming we sell Rashford of course.
 
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Sad it’s ending like this. I still maintain I don’t think he ever fully recovered his mobility and agility after them back/shoulder injuries. I don’t think he moves the same. Guy was pretty dynamic and an off the cuff dribbler when he first broke through - now he can’t beat a man. Still a decent striker of the ball though.

Time to move on, but I hope he does well
 
Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.

I think his ability is completely out of the window when he can’t even be bothered to train properly it’s all about his attitude and work rate which has been at question for years
 
It likely is on him for downing tools whenever things do not go the right way, but still sad to see him leaving. Genuinely hoped and expected that he will be an one-club man and eventually break Rooney’s record.

Still hope that he does well for Villa, and then wherever he gets transferred in the summer.
 
Debat? Does the cafe have a bat problem or something?
For some reason you have now spent 2 posts belittling me out of the blue: First on my posts in the forum, then on the fact that my English is not perfect. This second post makes it clear to me what type of person you are, and I feel sorry for you. But like I said...if you find my posts so awful, feel free to ignore them. And if you have a problem with my English not being perfect, that's your problem - not mine.
 
Based on ability no doubt Rashford can still contribute to this team even with his other issues but there is a much bigger play here. He's one of if not the club's top earner, a youth product and his attitude stinks.

If he goes in the summer along with Casemiro, that'll bring in line a much lower overall wage structure (probably leaving Bruno as the top earner), more profit on the books for a bigger transfer budget and a cultural reset.

I am and I'm sure others are slightly sad it's come to this but it's objectively a good thing for Utd. Now it's up the board to get some players in for Amorim in the long term to make this play 'work'. That's assuming we sell Rashford of course.

If the motive is to eliminate the highest earners, I understand that, but that's something that should be done in the summer, not halfway through the season when we're middle of the table, on the verge of scoring the fewest goals in the league we've ever scored, and staring at the prospect of a knockout tournament that is our one and only hope of qualifying for the Champions League.

Sell Rashford in the summer if you must; right now we desperately need a player who is capable of scoring goals and playing Rashford for the rest of the season gives us a better chance of scoring goals than playing Hojlund, Zirkzee, or Garnacho.

There is one and only one scenario in which this move makes sense right now, and that's if we pull off a shock move tomorrow to bring in an attacking player. If that happens, I will look at this situation in hindsight feeling differently; if it doesn't happen, then it's a stupid move right now.
 
Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.
Dont agree with this. Amorim has said multiple times that he wants players that are committed and giving their all - we might not be great still but we dont have any passengers for the first time in years. Long may it continue.
 
He has changed his Instagram profile pic to him after/during a mammoth gym sesh.

#Gainz #FreshStart #NewYearNewMe

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“Just me and the kids from now. PM me hun, to many snakes on here”
 
If the motive is to eliminate the highest earners, I understand that, but that's something that should be done in the summer, not halfway through the season when we're middle of the table, on the verge of scoring the fewest goals in the league we've ever scored, and staring at the prospect of a knockout tournament that is our one and only hope of qualifying for the Champions League.

Sell Rashford in the summer if you must; right now we desperately need a player who is capable of scoring goals and playing Rashford for the rest of the season gives us a better chance of scoring goals than playing Hojlund, Zirkzee, or Garnacho.

There is one and only one scenario in which this move makes sense right now, and that's if we pull off a shock move tomorrow to bring in an attacking player. If that happens, I will look at this situation in hindsight feeling differently; if it doesn't happen, then it's a stupid move right now.
It's pretty clear that he's detrimental to squad harmony/attitude as Amorim sees it. Yes, he's a better player than hojlund/zirkzee but his attitude is dreadful and it's clear that the manager feels it's impacting the squad. There are bigger things at stake than 'he's more talented than X'.
 
For some reason you have now spent 2 posts belittling me out of the blue: First on my posts in the forum, then on the fact that my English is not perfect. This second post makes it clear to me what type of person you are, and I feel sorry for you. But like I said...if you find my posts so awful, feel free to ignore them. And if you have a problem with my English not being perfect, that's your problem - not mine.
Yeh I was actually just trying to lighten the mood that's all, yeh I don't agree with what you post, and your right I shouldn't be replying to you the way I was, so apologies for that.
 
It's sad news. I think Amorim has given up too quickly on Rashford. After all, he scored goals in the first games under the new manager.
I see it as a big weakening of the squad. Rashford will always be better than both Højlund and Zirkzee.

Now he is leaving Manchester United and can now play in the Champions League with Aston Villa....It is a setback that many are too stubborn to realize.
Yeah yeah

Bottom line.. Rashford.. wants.. out
 
Disappointing that he phoned it in after Amorim challenged him and wanted out.

He could have taken the opportunity to rediscover the hunger he lost and reclaim his place in the team.

No ill feelings towards him, but it's a sad ending.
 
... For that, he will always be a legend in my eyes....
The most abused term in the Caf!
For a man who spent nearly 10 senior seasons at the club, with barely three good seasons, and not one outstanding! And for a man who was on astronomical wages without actually deserving it!

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Yeah yeah

Bottom line.. Rashford.. wants.. out
You are right. He wants to move on. I just find it so hard to understand that this situation could not be resolved in a proper way. Rashford has always been at the club and of course he must still have feelings for it. Anything else would be weird. That is why I am frustrated that Rashford and the club have not been able to solve the situation in a more constructive way together.
 
You are right. He wants to move on. I just find it so hard to understand that this situation could not be resolved in a proper way. Rashford has always been at the club and of course he must still have feelings for it. Anything else would be weird. That is why I am frustrated that Rashford and the club have not been able to solve the situation in a more constructive way together.
My opinion is that the club have tried everything with him, arm around his shoulder, paying him top money, letting him do things that others would have been pulled up on. I suspect he was a glazer favourite like martial was. INEOS and Amorim have come in, saw through him but gave him a chance like everyone else but he hasn’t bothered to take it. Instead he’s told us that he wants out for a new challenge. Is there a bigger challenge than impressing a new coach and helping turn this club around? No, the club has helped make his ego what it is today by not taking him to task a long time ago.
 
Rashford heard Barcelona were sniffing round so he called his brother and said

"get me a villa bro".
 
He'd better pull his finger out when he's there, if he does his usual strolling around and jogging into players with his head down, we are well and truly stuck with him when he comes back in the summer

No doubt his PR entourage will claim we are the problem if AV manage to get him to hit a purple patch

I'd have absolutely no problem with him saying he no longer loves football and wants to retire to focus on other things, unfortunately he wants to keep his massive footballers wage it seems
 
Wasn't it him with J Lingz in the infamous "beans beans beans" video?

He's not exactly surrounded himself with good influences. Wasn't he good friends with strolling Sancho too?
 
Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.
Thankfully Amorim disagrees with this nonsense
 
Rashford never looked any worse than all of the other players that were playing like garbage at the time. If Amorim cut the players who weren't fighting like they should be, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

In a world in which Hojlund is continuously thrown out there to be completely useless, is there really a version of Rashford that doesn't offer at least equal or better productivity?

Let's not kid ourselves, there are maybe 3 or 4 players who deserve to be out there.

Rashford wasn't dropped because he's less talented than other options, he was dropped because when challenged on his professionalism and effort levels in training, he responded by immediately saying he wanted a new challenge publicly.

Garnacho was dropped for the same reason and has responded by working hard, thus earning back a spot in the squad and in what seems to be Amorim's starting XI for now.

Once ETH was sacked and Amorim appointed the priority of this season ceased to be about results, but rather establishing a system and style of play while figuring out who in the squad can and would be able to adapt to it. Rashford quit as soon as he faced criticism from the manager and he is rightfully exiting as a result.

Wish him all the best and the club itself needs to take a large share of the blame for how things have worked out with Marcus, but it's time for him to go.
 
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