Mad isn’t it. Reports I’ve seen are £300k a week plus bonuses which he’ll have been nowhere near achieving. That’s probably without the 20% CL reduction, so he’s probably been earning £240k for the last 18 months.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”
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I think something is fundamentally wrong at the academy. I'm not questioning the talent of these guys. Just
I think there's something fundamentally wrong at the academy for a long time now. I agree that the quality has dropped but these guys are still talented to have made the first team. Bad culture has crept into the academy. Maybe it's a societal thing I don't know.
Standards have dropped and like I've mentioned academy players have become amateurish. Let's look at Liverpool, Man City and Real Madrid as examples. Hardly any of their academy products that have made it to the first team attract this level of nonsense outside of the club. Yes United sells. But they are making it easy for the vultures in the media. Thus, unsettling the dressing room and feel of the club.
This is groundbreaking, can't believe this is happening!
It's you Rashford! It was you all along
Interesting comments by Rashford. So casually mentioned in that article by Henry Winter. It's probably for the best for all parties unfortunately. As much as I'd like to believe he could get back to his explosive best at United, there's not many signs of it and it's turned a bit toxic with a lot of fans online. The high wages versus his output don't help. Especially at a time when the club is clearly struggling financially.
The Amorim comments from today as expected. I'm not sure what else he could say, even if that is or isn't how he feels about the situation. I won't pretend to know, but obviously all of this coming off the back of him being dropped for some sort of attitude of training issue certainly does paint a picture.
The Amorim comments from today as expected. I'm not sure what else he could say, even if that is or isn't how he feels about the situation. I won't pretend to know, but obviously all of this coming off the back of him being dropped for some sort of attitude of training issue certainly does paint a picture.
I just want to ignore this thread and the other seventeen or eighteen on the same subject, please.
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There’s a lot of people insinuating he’s only leaving due to the toxicity from the fanbase which I find perplexing.
As for him becoming the face of our problems amongst the fans, it’s hardly something new, I’ve seen the same thing happen to Maguire, Pogba, Martial, even Rooney. I think the Belfast incident was the straw that broke the camels back for Rashford. For an academy player to be so openly unprofessional in a period where he’d been regularly accused of not giving 100% on the pitch was madness on his part. When you add in the fact that he’s one of our most senior and highest paid players, it’s no surprise that his relationship with the fans has become broken. It seems that a lot of those sticking up for him want him to be devoid of any accountability.
For 600k a week you expect better.
Honestly this needs to stop as a reason from fans to keep Rashford around as sentiment from seasons gone by is a fecking horrible reason to keep Rashford around on his ridiculous wages, the 30 goal season was a 3 month purple patch where his goals overshadowed the fact his overall play was still average to at best acceptable.
It’s this mentality that is why we’re so split as a fan base as some believe we should keep players based on the past seasons performances (Rashford, Martial, Varane, De Gea, Pogba) or the fact they’re nice guys (Mata, Herrera, Fred, Blind) or that they MIGHT come good (Sancho, Depay, Pellestri, Tuanzebe) and it needs to stop.
At Real or Bayern or Chelsea it’s as simple as if you’re not good enough or you no longer fit then you’re moved on regardless of how ruthless it’s considered to be and that’s how it should be, look at how things were under Sir Alex in that regard as it didn’t matter what your name was (Beckham, Keane, RVN, Stam, Ince, Kanchelskis, Hughes) if you didn’t fit or didn’t perform you were moved on and Rashford outside of a 3 month purple patch hasn’t performed in years and also doesn’t fit under Amorim.
What I thought from the quotes was that he never accepted any responsibility for why he’s in the situation (acknowledge poor form, lack of professionalism etc - ‘I think I’m misunderstood’), which doesn’t garner him much sympathy
Henry Winter on if there was any ambiguity on Rashford saying he wants to leave
"I think he's a realist. I think he sees the direction of travel" "Everyone can see there's a parting of the ways, it's just a question of when" "I think it is the end game"
"I think he's a realist. I think he sees the direction of travel" "Everyone can see there's a parting of the ways, it's just a question of when" "I think it is the end game"
25% deduction. I think he’s only made his full salary once since he signed that contract.
No one is going to talk about Rashford once he leaves United, the same way no one talks about Sancho or McTomminay. He isn’t bigger than the club, it’s that United rarely sell their home grown talents.
I’ll argue his effort on the pitch says he doesn’t care about football anymore.
dreams of Spain
No one really knows which clubs will be interested or not interested, it is all guess work, but if the fee for a loan with obligation to buy is of a reasonable price, then I am sure clubs in France, Italy, Spain and England would be interested. Sometimes clubs take punts on players because they think the player can get back to their best or close to it.
Is there an realistic club he could move to in Spain though?
Real don’t need another left forward. Barca literally can’t afford to register any players. And I don’t imagine Marcus has the work ethic for Atletico.
Shame to see so many of you with such anger towards him. It's just sad for me. I don't know how you can have so much hate for someone who has done a lot for the club, regardless of whether you think he's shown a lack of effort/professionalism.
He's clearly mentally checked out and has been trying to push through it, but now needs to find a new solution.
He's clearly mentally checked out and has been trying to push through it, but now needs to find a new solution.
Yeah, it isn't surprising that he's turned people against him.
That's mainly due to the clubs fanbase. There isn't a sporting fanbase out there, that loves hating their own players more than the Manchester United fanbase.
This clubs fanbase will frame everything negative to be the players fault, anything positive all the managers doing.
Our players get shit on by their own fanbase more than any other club fanbase in top level sports. Theres a certain demographic of players that especially attract particularly toxic hate in this fanbase.
Amorim response to this provides him a chance to take it back. So I wouldnt say he is 100% leaving yet. And its not rare for people make mistake in the heat of moment.
I just hope it’s frustration from knowing he’s capable of so much more. I don’t think what he’s achieved up to this point is in doubt.
As for what he’s done off the pitch, I couldn’t be prouder as a fan of Manchester United that he’s one of us. Took on the Tory government and won, making sure children were fed that wouldn’t have been. It doesn’t get much better than that in terms of being a role model and ambassador for the club. Even when he gave this interview to Henry winter he was at his old school delivering 420 presents to 420 kids, some of whom wont open another one this year. He’s an amazing person.
But the spark isn’t there anymore, you can see it in his body language. He seems to have admitted that to himself, and I’ll take no pleasure seeing him leave. But it makes sense for all parties.
I think the damage was done a long time ago with Rashford.
I think it started with the penalty miss in Euros and then the horrible season we had under Ole where he was particularly targeted by our fans. All of these things accumulated over that time and I don't think he's had much faith in the club since then. He's also ended up on the end of racial abuse by the clubs own fans, and I don't think he's particularly fond of the club or it's fans ever since that happened.
He found his mojo at the WC and carried that through for United from December to March. If we hadn't offered him such a big deal he probably would've left that summer, but I guess the money was too good to turn down.
I can relate to him, I've been in jobs that I hate but the money's too good to turn down and sometimes when it's going good the highs mask the day-to-day lows.
I think it started with the penalty miss in Euros and then the horrible season we had under Ole where he was particularly targeted by our fans. All of these things accumulated over that time and I don't think he's had much faith in the club since then. He's also ended up on the end of racial abuse by the clubs own fans, and I don't think he's particularly fond of the club or it's fans ever since that happened.
He found his mojo at the WC and carried that through for United from December to March. If we hadn't offered him such a big deal he probably would've left that summer, but I guess the money was too good to turn down.
I can relate to him, I've been in jobs that I hate but the money's too good to turn down and sometimes when it's going good the highs mask the day-to-day lows.
Utter nonsense. Both ETH and Ole were lambasted by that same fanbase on the basis they relied on individual brilliance/moments rather than tactical prowess.
Clearly everything good is not automatically attributed to the manager. Ole being the prime example, gets no credit whatsoever.
Never underestimate Barcelona's ability to sell their grandkids to raise money
time to move on all the best
Do think there's truth in this but the added attention and presure of playing for United is definitely a factor. Aa is the poor way we've managed young players post Ferguson.
Basically thrusting them straight into the limelight and relying on them to be the talisman because we haven't looked after the rest of the team well enough to not rely on one individual. So they end up with a massive wage and ego, and massive level of pressure, before they are emotionally mature enough for any of those things.
Sir Alex didn't even do this with Ronaldo. Under better management some of our prospects would have turned out better and others might not have been getting in the team or being expected to win games on their own to start with.
You look at even the best prospects from our academy or u21s back at the time. None of them were thrust into the limelight the way they are now. Gérard Pique would play sporadically alongside 3 very good, experienced defenders, and if he made a mistake it wouldn't end with hi shouldering the whole team's failure
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That's exactly what you say when you don't want to increase the drama. He'll probably play on Thursday, just to quash the circus around this.
Amorim is saying the right thing to maintain Rashfords value in the market. If he comes out and admits Rashford is 100% going to leave that reduces our negotiating position with suitors.
The players took about 50x the slack either of them got. feck me, the players were getting shat on even when we were doing relatively well. There were constant calls to clear X, Y, or Z out because they're letting those 2 geniuses down.
Whenever I see Rashford standing still watching opposing players go past him without him putting in a challenge or tracking back I always wonder how hard it must be to play under such pressure.
This is so predictable.
Rashford will pull on the heartstrings and provide a picture of a lone soul with weight of the world on his shoulders and little support.
He will talk about the hurt from people thinking he doesnt love the club etc etc
End of the day players are judged by what they do on the pitch, Rash aint worth 350k a week and his body language and output has been poor.
No time for sulking, galvanise yourself and go again, not Marcus, he just wants some sympathy.
Time to go and Chelsea will happily take you on a simialr agreement to Sancho
Rashford will pull on the heartstrings and provide a picture of a lone soul with weight of the world on his shoulders and little support.
He will talk about the hurt from people thinking he doesnt love the club etc etc
End of the day players are judged by what they do on the pitch, Rash aint worth 350k a week and his body language and output has been poor.
No time for sulking, galvanise yourself and go again, not Marcus, he just wants some sympathy.
Time to go and Chelsea will happily take you on a simialr agreement to Sancho
May need to keep on dreaming.
Barcelona are skint and have much better forwards so don't need him.
He's also not good enough for Real Madrid as their team is already stacked with enough world class forwards as it is.
Atletico just spent €130m on strikers so no chance there either.
None of the other clubs will pay us what we want.
We don’t have anybody else in the squad who is paid that much and does so little out of possession. It’s hardly this great mystery to see one of earners attract heavy criticism when aside from consistently badly performances they are also consistently poor in their attitude on the pitch. And in addition to the low effort, he’s also been dropped for training badly by Amorim and if I’m not mistaken, was dropped by ETH for being late / indiscipline.
Pro right
Don't like that "hate" and "anger" are terms associated with this saga. And it is a saga. In the end, we are talking about a player who has been well below the par for a while now. If we can replace him with an upgrade, it's a no-brainer. The fact that he is a local boy and bought food for kids should not even be in the conversation as we are talking about footballing ability here. He had his wonderful season, has not been nowhere near close that since. If there's a buyer - laters; and bring in a potential upgrade.
Probably up to Rashford to either get onboard or find a new club and when looking at the options and wages offered he might decide to stay. If a good offer comes up then I'm sure both the club and him are willing to make it happen and bring in a fresh start for both.
Spain looks to be difficult, maybe a London club can put a good proposal in
Spain looks to be difficult, maybe a London club can put a good proposal in
Against him is maybe one thing but calling him this or that or whatever is a bit much.
Swap deal with mbappe make it happen woody.
The point is that his wages are beyond what almost all clubs in those countries could afford, those that could won't be interested. So just saying there are plenty of clubs that would like him oversimplifies things