Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”

Chelsea will be all over him, I think Arsenal will inquire too. People are kidding themselves if they don't think PL sides will be interested. As awful as Rashford has been, plenty of clubs will be looking at us as the problem and thinking they can help him turn things around.
 
Chelsea will be all over him, I think Arsenal will inquire too. People are kidding themselves if they don't think PL sides will be interested. As awful as Rashford has been, plenty of clubs will be looking at us as the problem and thinking they can help him turn things around.

And a change of scenery might also invigorate Marcus. Its why I dont want to see him sold to another Premier League club. Sell him to Bayern.
 
And a change of scenery might also invigorate Marcus. Its why I dont want to see him sold to another Premier League club. Sell him to Bayern.
I think it very well might. Seeing as it doesn't seem to all be down to a loss of form and more a choice to not work hard. I'm not sure any club will get better than we did when he was at his best, purely due to the fact he's older and the injuries have taken their toll, but I'd expect wherever he goes he will make a big impact at least while he still fancies it.
 
Best for both sides and years overdue. That being said, I don't see where he goes? No other club will pay him even half of what he gets here and he still has a lot of contract to go. I will believe it when I see the Ornstein/Romano here-we-go posts. I don't really care where he goes, though.
 
Best for both sides and years overdue. That being said, I don't see where he goes? No other club will pay him even half of what he gets here and he still has a lot of contract to go. I will believe it when I see the Ornstein/Romano here-we-go posts. I don't really care where he goes, though.
Do you have to take Henry Winter as part of the deal?
 
In my view, Rashford future at OT is pretty close to zero. And so it is clearly best for both sides for him to move on.

But goodness me. He is only 27 and should be in his prime as a player.
Will he succeed at another club. That is very much down to him.
 
You think I'm not aware of the players who have gone onto to do well as well? And those players who you've mentioned have hardly set the world on the fire. The 4 players listed (and others) have been brilliant in patches but clearly have had a detrimental impact in the dressing room in the past decade. You can't underestimate how a strong bonded dressing room is important to success. These players have let the club down outside of the club and in the dressing room. They are a symptom of the falling standards and rotting culture that have enveloped the club since Ferguson.
You framed it as if the academy is producing bad humans. You now seem to be talking more about player quality which is a completely different thing.

The culture of the club/dressing room was always upheld by the older pros. We created a vacuum when Evra, Vidic etc left the club, and it seems whoever was left, Rooney, Carrick, Evans, couldn’t keep the standards. But that’s also a symptom of the overall quality dropping and poor management.

I’m not sure those players have done much different to previous players we’ve had from a behaviour point of view. The team just wasn’t good enough to win things.
 
Respectfully, Salah and De Bruyne were both 22 years old when Chelsea chose to move them on, it's not comparable in the slightest.

Rashford is 27 year old and barring a 3 month run after the world cup has been utter dross for the last 4 seasons. We should be looking to sell to the club which are willing to pay the highest amount, regardless of what league they play in.
I'm not saying Rashford is anything like them. I was simply responding to the Chelsea model sited. It's not been without it's clangers

Regarding Rashford, he should have been moved on a long time ago. When a player is not even trying, there's no excuse.
 
To paint himself as martyr and hero whilst subtly saying he wants to leave….but I’m a good guy. He set up whole scenario. Typical of his ego.
 
If Rashford got his game on, and got near his peak, he'd be a decent option for Barcelona. They don't have anyone natural on the left. Raphina is better on the right and Yamal is getting a few injuries. I'm not sure Marcus has the mentality to be successful wherever he goes, it'll be interesting to see.
You dont get binned by Man United and your reward is a move to Barcelona.

I think United fans are underestimating how hard Rashford will be to shift. Rashford and Rashfords camp no doubt think the clubs will be lining up and he has options. However I can see interest in him being passive and conditional - low fee, reduction in wages, or with Man United continuing to subsidize his wages post exit. However, the idea of a clean break and banking a 50m fee is nonsensical. This will need to be a creative exit as majority of the football community view him as a Dele Ali mark 2. A top footballer who nosedived in what should be his prime years because he has no interest in football or willingness to work hard.

I actually think Rashfords ego will get bruised so badly when PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona arnt fighting over him, and his options are Newcastle or West Ham, that he will 'recommit' to Man United. For this reason, Amorim needs to follow though with this, and freeze him out, perhaps even ban him form training with the first team. Make it known to DaMarcus that there is no way back.
 
You can though. I'm not gonna be so cynical that you can't convince some people not to be arseholes. I just don't know where to start. With myself, I guess...
I think it's evident that you can't as I've been doing it for years and they mostly stay being arseholes....
 
Most of the people criticizing the fact that Rashford leaves are only drove by feelings.

Let's be clear, since April 2022 (after the League Cup win) he was horrible and was unhappy.

It's better for everyone that he finds a new club.

If he leaves this winter, I would rather see him abroad than at Arsenal or Chelsea.

PSG maybe looking for a new forward ==> They will loan Kolo Muani, and are still short of a forward. But Luis Enrique would not want a forward like him (low run rate, low pressure etc)
 
a) I don't have a platform full of gullible idiots where I pretend to be something I'm not
b) I don't make a living creating toxicity towards the club I actually do follow all over the world

You enjoy the show tonight though pal, just make sure you get your tongue back at the end of it.
How this gets a warning and toxicity gets a pass I do not fecking know...
 
Neither you or @Rojofiam evidently watch the United Stand. Goldbridge has been a massive fan of Rashford and regularly defended up. His position for a long time was always that he wanted Rashford to rediscover his form.

@FrankWhite even your assessment of Goldbridge's video today is bizarre. He specifically stated several times that he does not see any problem with Rashford's comments and basically said something along the lines that it is fair game and probably works out best for both parties.

You're right, I don't watch it. I've seen enough to know that these content creators running their fan channels aren't real supporters. They care way more about their own interests, and that's fine...but Goldbridge has clearly spread misinformation and done hate campaigns as a result of this.

Don't you remember him saying he's heard from good sources that we will appoint Southgate if ETH isn't going to be kept for this season? It was utter tripe, so why did he do that? Maybe because SEG were giving them interviews and exclusive information that fan channels should never be privy to. That's why he was backing ETH until the very end. He also knew that scaring the fanbase by saying he's sure we'll replace him with Southgate will mean more resistance to the prospect of dismissing ETH. Not that it should be a deciding factor for Ineos, but Goldbridge obviously didn't know that for certain and he has nothing to lose by trying at least.

If you're just giving shout outs to people that are too intelligent to be taken in by a dickhead who makes his living conning idiots into thinking he's a Manchester United supporter with an inside track while spouting constant toxicity because it gets the most clicks then let me join you; well done @Rojofiam and @FrankWhite, top lads both of you.
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You dont get binned by Man United and your reward is a move to Barcelona.

I think United fans are underestimating how hard Rashford will be to shift. Rashford and Rashfords camp no doubt think the clubs will be lining up and he has options. However I can see interest in him being passive and conditional - low fee, reduction in wages, or with Man United continuing to subsidize his wages post exit. However, the idea of a clean break and banking a 50m fee is nonsensical. This will need to be a creative exit as majority of the football community view him as a Dele Ali mark 2. A top footballer who nosedived in what should be his prime years because he has no interest in football or willingness to work hard.

I actually think Rashfords ego will get bruised so badly when PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona arnt fighting over him, and his options are Newcastle or West Ham, that he will 'recommit' to Man United. For this reason, Amorim needs to follow though with this, and freeze him out, perhaps even ban him form training with the first team. Make it known to DaMarcus that there is no way back.
DaMarcus...?
 
So just to be clear here.

We have a player on silly money that has decided he wants to leave because the new manager wont tolerate anything less than 100% effort ?

And there are people out there defending him ?
 
Misogyny or bigotry (including racism)
DaMarcus...?
yeah.

Jesse Lingard used to be a decent footballer before he turned into Jlingzy. Same goes for Marcus Rashford, its now DaMarcus Da Rashy
 
Amorim must be thinking 'these fans are loons I better watch what I say from now on!' - handled it as well as you could hope for but it still sent the fanbase into a frenzy! :lol:

Welcome to Manchester United 2024 Ruben...
 
Difference is you mentioned "this season" for Foden

As if Rashford hasn't had at least 3 very good seasons at United in the last 5-6 years? He also didn't have the advantage that Foden has (up until now, funnily enough, just when coincidentally his performances turned bad?), a great team, GOAT level manager, and being part of a football club that knows what they're doing and have competent people leading it, where winning on the pitch is the most important objective.
 
The lad can't win that way. If he does nothing they will moan, when he does something it is just PR. Maybe, just maybe he is actually a nice lad. Think the main thing for Marcus is make sure you have good people round you and ditch any who are a bad influence.
And bin off social media...
 
Because posts like that are what drives toxicity on the forum
They aren't mate and I'm surprised you've framed it that way. They more often than not, are a response to rampant negativity or goading.... But listen I'm going to leave it at that it's not my site
 
apparently he would like to play in Spain.. unless Atletico or Barcelona go crazy for him, he might very well play for another club in England, Chelsea comes to mind.

Atletico should go for him if they can find an agreement regarding his wages. He would be their second best player, and arguably best player if he finds form in a good role, and their current best player in Griezmann is turning 34 soon.
 
You dont get binned by Man United and your reward is a move to Barcelona.

I think United fans are underestimating how hard Rashford will be to shift. Rashford and Rashfords camp no doubt think the clubs will be lining up and he has options. However I can see interest in him being passive and conditional - low fee, reduction in wages, or with Man United continuing to subsidize his wages post exit. However, the idea of a clean break and banking a 50m fee is nonsensical. This will need to be a creative exit as majority of the football community view him as a Dele Ali mark 2. A top footballer who nosedived in what should be his prime years because he has no interest in football or willingness to work hard.

I actually think Rashfords ego will get bruised so badly when PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona arnt fighting over him, and his options are Newcastle or West Ham, that he will 'recommit' to Man United. For this reason, Amorim needs to follow though with this, and freeze him out, perhaps even ban him form training with the first team. Make it known to DaMarcus that there is no way back.

Car crash of a post

Probably a little racist too with the "DaMarcus" bullshit to be fair

And Rashford's not done or said anything in public, or on social media, that implies he doesn't care about football anymore.
 
Not really a fan of how some academy grads are leaving on bad terms/sour note recently. Yes, players should be moved on, but I don't think it needs to bet getting to this - so hopefully we start doing better in this regard.

These acrimonious divorces also makes it harder to move them on, but alas
 
Not really a fan of how some academy grads are leaving on bad terms/sour note recently. Yes, players should be moved on, but I don't think it needs to bet getting to this - so hopefully we start doing better in this regard.

These acrimonious divorces also makes it harder to move them on, but alas

What makes this case bad terms?
 
Car crash of a post

Probably a little racist too with the "DaMarcus" bullshit to be fair

And Rashford's not done or said anything in public, or on social media, that implies he doesn't care about football anymore.

It's kinda weird how stuff like that is becoming more prevalent here - or maybe it's confirmation bias, but in the other thread about Rashford - when he went to a basketball game in his free time - I saw posters referring to him as "gangsta". Disappointing stuff
 
Not really a fan of how some academy grads are leaving on bad terms/sour note recently. Yes, players should be moved on, but I don't think it needs to bet getting to this - so hopefully we start doing better in this regard.

These acrimonious divorces also makes it harder to move them on, but alas
I think it’s easy for fans to be classy about players who aren’t good enough when you’re winning league titles every year. If Darron Gibson was here in the post Fergie wilderness years he’d have been playing every week. And when there’s nobody else to take the spot of a player who clearly isn’t good enough, the fans will unfortunately get on their backs.

It isn’t their fault, but we’ve seen it time and time again - most recently with Lingard or McTominay. If those players left under Fergie it would’ve been at age 23 with a handshake and a ‘best of luck son’.
 
So just to be clear here.

We have a player on silly money that has decided he wants to leave because the new manager wont tolerate anything less than 100% effort ?

And there are people out there defending him ?
Welcome to the odd world of "Top Red Fans" mate.

They think they are trying to speak up for the club's best interest, while actually doing the opposite.
 
So just to be clear here.

We have a player on silly money that has decided he wants to leave because the new manager wont tolerate anything less than 100% effort ?

And there are people out there defending him ?

The day after getting dropped from the squad, there were reports about United not just wanting to sell, but that he's viewed as the symbol of everything that has gone wrong at the club.

That might be the reason for wanting to leave, rather than running being required, don't you think? Just to be clear, I mean.
 
You dont get binned by Man United and your reward is a move to Barcelona.

I think United fans are underestimating how hard Rashford will be to shift. Rashford and Rashfords camp no doubt think the clubs will be lining up and he has options. However I can see interest in him being passive and conditional - low fee, reduction in wages, or with Man United continuing to subsidize his wages post exit. However, the idea of a clean break and banking a 50m fee is nonsensical. This will need to be a creative exit as majority of the football community view him as a Dele Ali mark 2. A top footballer who nosedived in what should be his prime years because he has no interest in football or willingness to work hard.

I actually think Rashfords ego will get bruised so badly when PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona arnt fighting over him, and his options are Newcastle or West Ham, that he will 'recommit' to Man United. For this reason, Amorim needs to follow though with this, and freeze him out, perhaps even ban him form training with the first team. Make it known to DaMarcus that there is no way back.
Yeah something like the sancho deal seems the best we could do, loan worh covering some wages then a obligation to buy or just a loan in the short term
 
The manager said it wasn't disciplinary reasons, so is Amorin a liar.
He said they ( Garnacho and Rashford) didnt train and acted the way they should and were left out. What else do you think it was for?

Responding to that call by manager with a big interview where he is stating he wants new challenge is unprofessional.
 
It's kinda weird how stuff like that is becoming more prevalent here - or maybe it's confirmation bias, but in the other thread about Rashford - when he went to a basketball game in his free time - I saw posters referring to him as "gangsta". Disappointing stuff

I think he looked fecking ridiculous in that hoodie, but how can your first thought be that he's trying to look like a "gangsta" or whatever.

And sadly some fans don't really look at the subject of the private lives of footballers realistically. A footballer takes a day off in his free time to enjoy his life, probably not even a whole day with a private jet and the most convenient accommodation and transportation money can buy...and it leads people to think he doesn't care about football anymore.

If I was being paid millions to be a footballer, the minute I finally got some free time, I'd definitely try to enjoy my life and relax a bit. Why do people expect footballers to be robots...can't even go and eat out on a random afternoon without people questioning your professionalism :lol:
 
Purely from a football point of view here

His whole demeanour is awful
His application is awful
His attitude is awful
His opinion of himself as a player appears to be of the charts
His Lifestyle cant but distract him as a player
He looks like he hates football at times
His negative energy is toxic

He isn't world class, he has been breaking down United attacks for years, he does fugg all out of possession and is a general weight the team has to carry for the vast majority of time on the field.

Amorim has called him out and he goes straight to Twitter and Journalists. Again with the PR.

He and the circus he causes is a massive distraction. This forum is saturated with too many threads saying the same thing.

Its time to go - maybe he will reenergise somewhere else and I hope he does- but for this team and this club his time is up. United need to have players that are mentally checked in and engaged in what it takes to be a Man United player.

Rashford thanks for the memories - but off you go and point at your head somewhere else.