Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”

I find it astonishing that he seems to be such a polarising player among fans.

He will go down in the history of the club as one of our top scorers and he has arguably been one of the few bright spots in the dark years post SAF - coming through the academy, bursting on to the scene, with his background and obvious love for the club. He even played through a broken back for us. I just can’t fathom how any United fan can hate him.

Having said that, it’s equally ridiculous to me that some fans seem reluctant to criticise him. He’s on obscene wages and therefore rightfully expected to give his all for the club. Unfortunately, it’s evident that he hasn’t done that for a couple of years. All of us have witnessed his poor attitude in matches and the Belfast episode was downright disrespectful to the club. Add to that an obvious physical decline.

The love for Rashford and an acknowledgment that his time here is up can and should coexist.
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
You cant teach kids to be good unless you have a good teacher.

We have had poor management for a long time now post saf that it effected the mentality of quite young players rather than them being purposely mentally weak.

Saw it called out with Rangnick & now under amorim but ultimately Its easier for him to now have a new challenge than challenging a way he has been bought up ever since his debut apparences in the same school.

Maybe this is why Maguire did well, he didnt always play at United & had highs and lows at different clubs.

Rashford however has only had one club & ultimately one type of lifestyle arguably since the day he was born at the club.

I hope he can get in to top 10's scorers for us because i did enjoy him play when he was at his best but i understand that many wont care.
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Ronaldo said none of the young players showed respect for the senior pros and the desire to learn.
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
You cant teach kids to be good unless you have a good teacher.

We have had poor management for a long time now post saf that it effected the mentality of quite young players rather than them being purposely mentally weak.

Saw it called out with Rangnick & now under amorim but ultimately Its easier for him to now have a new challenge than challenging a way he has been bought up ever since his debut apparences of his only school of poor teachers.

Maybe this is why Maguire did well, he didnt always play at United & had highs and lows at different clubs.

Rashford however has only had one club & ultimately one type of lifestyle arguably since the day he was born at the club.

I hope he can get in to top 10's scorers for us because i did enjoy him play when he was at his best but i understand that many wont care.
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Agree. We put it all on the players.
Just think about all the top tier players we have signed that also failed under the came to United.
 
Strachan8 said:
In America people who didn't agree with one political party were called ‘deplorables’ or ‘garbage’. In redcafe if you critique Rashford or Dwaine you are ‘gullible’.
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It's critique based on made-up arguments among United fans like analysing body language or Rashford "not tracking back" as if it's not a fecking tactical instruction to leave your most dangerous transition player to be the furthest player up the pitch when you don't have the ball. Especially when he can play as a runner for Bruno Fernandes, one of the most creative players on the planet. Stuff like this is what's considered fair criticism on here.

Fair criticism would be "Rashford is often bad at decision making" "Rashford cannot play well between the lines." "Rashford isn't well co-ordinated enough when he has to press high." etc., not making up imaginary things like "he's not arsed" etc..
 
Reckon it will be a loan in January with an obligation to buy in the summer. Similar to the Sancho situation, we're unlikely to get much more than 30m due to everyone knowing we want to sell (plus his high wages).

Sad to see it's come to this from a boyhood United fan who came through the academy and had such a high ceiling in his early 20s. However I'm glad both parties are making it happen before it turns too toxic like it did in Pogba's final season.
 
I wish him all the best whoever he joins but its been evident for sometime now that he's in desperate need for a career restart.
 
led_scholes said:
His level is Everton and Crystal Palace at best.

A player who scores on average less than 10 goals per season in the pl and doesn't press or create a lot, can't aim for better.
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I assume Foden is going to be Everton and Palace level after this season, too?
 
Shark said:
He's been guilt tripping the fan base for years via his PR team, and then proceeding to serve up absolute rubbish on the pitch after their statements, much like the ones in your post.
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Can you elaborate on this?
 
Rojofiam said:
I assume Foden is going to be Everton and Palace level after this season, too?
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He already is. At least Rashford used to have moments where he could drag us to a victory when his teammates were underperforming. 2019 Rashford would have been more productive in a Pep team than last season's Foden.
 
Shark said:
Were you living under a rock during his last PR stunt? When he stated that nobody should question his commitment to the club?
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So if he says anything in the media it's a "PR stunt"? You know he's been at United since he was 7, played through several injuries under Ole which probably permanently damaged his body, and he probably could've left several times to other clubs because he was one of the most promising talents in the world from around age 19 to age 22-23? And yet leaving was never ever a serious possibility for him up until now, despite United having not been anything else in his 8+ years here other than a team in and out of top 4 with a chance of winning a domestic cup here and there.

Staying at United out of loyalty isn't the same post-Ferguson as before. Before, you were guaranteed success eventually, even in some worse seasons. In the last 11 years, though, we've been an unserious footballing project with incompetent idiots at the helm.

Even Pogba is someone that I think sacrificed his prime years for United but he also gets way more hate than he deserves, and that was the case even when he was still here.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
He already is. At least Rashford used to have moments where he could drag us to a victory when his teammates were underperforming. 2019 Rashford would have been more productive in a Pep team than last season's Foden.
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2019 Rashford is better than any version of Foden, I agree.
 
Rojofiam said:
90% of football fans have fallen for the continuous character assassination against him that's been going on for years, initiated by self-serving non-United fan bums like Goldbridge and bottom of the barrel outlets like the Daily Mail and Express.

Why would he suddenly care about the timing of a random interview?

It's like 2 years ago when all the people continuously abusing Maguire thought how dare he not accept the West Ham offer just because the same stupid fans wanted him to, despite it being far from beneficial for the player himself both financially and sporting wise.

Abuse the player because the media and social media tells you to, and then act entitled when they might not care about your wishes.
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Goldbridge is on a victory parade tonight, his agenda has finally reached it's climax. He no longer has to be sly about it.
I'm sure he'll milk this now until Rashford is sold.
 
Sad to be parting ways with him as I do love Marcus. Definitely one of my favourite players in my years supporting the club. It's for the best though, I am pretty sure.
 
Halfquarter said:
Why does it ? Because training well for a week means nothing when you have been acting the maggot for years.
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Amorim hasn't been here for years. He said it himself, the next day begins with a clean slate.
 
Reddevildans said:
There's been a string of academy players that have shown terrible attitude and application at united recently.

Rashford
Lingard
Pogba
Greenwood
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A player who seems to have declined and isn’t performing to the standards expected, and somehow seems to get the blame for the club offering him large contract after an incredible season.

A player who was never really good enough for United but who actually had good work rate, strangely we’re told that all would be fine if Rashford just did that. Liked to dance on social media like a lot of the younger generation, maybe that constitutes a bad attitude?

Another who was a key figure in a World Cup win for France, played in a mess of a United team and by all accounts it’s really well liked and respected by people in football and is very well mannered.

Yeah let’s band them in with an accused rapist. That sounds fair.

How about you list every other player that’s come through the academy since Pogba and gone on to play football. Mainoo, Tuanzebe, Elanga, Shoretire, Garner, Gomes, McTominay, okay I’ll stop. I think you get the picture.
 
Reddevildans said:
There's been a string of academy players that have shown terrible attitude and application at united recently.

Rashford
Lingard
Pogba
Greenwood
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Yeah this shouldn’t be missed in all of this, our most highly rated, academy players have really let us down with their attitude at one time or another. INEOS need to get the environment right for them to hit the heights they are capable of consistently and to make sure that they don’t let other distractions detract from football which is their actual job.
 
Rojofiam said:
So if he says anything in the media it's a "PR stunt"? You know he's been at United since he was 7, played through several injuries under Ole which probably permanently damaged his body, and he probably could've left several times to other clubs because he was one of the most promising talents in the world from around age 19 to age 22-23? And yet leaving was never ever a serious possibility for him up until now, despite United having not been anything else in his 8+ years here other than a team in and out of top 4 with a chance of winning a domestic cup here and there.

Staying at United out of loyalty isn't the same post-Ferguson as before. Before, you were guaranteed success eventually, even in some worse seasons. In the last 11 years, though, we've been an unserious footballing project with incompetent idiots at the helm.

Even Pogba is someone that I think sacrificed his prime years for United but he also gets way more hate than he deserves, and that was the case even when he was still here.
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Ah look, we're never going to agree on anything if you believe that. In my honest opinion, giving players like Rashford and Pogba the gigantic platform, and keys to the club like worshipping vs what they've actually served up on the pitch is why the club has been a collosal failure for over a decade. Players with severe victim mentality to boot.
 
ErikElevenHag said:
You trust the people we have looking at Rashford and their judgement that he isn't good enough to operate at the level we require sell him to arsenal (or the highest bidder, regardless if they are rivals) if they were interested. If it doesn't work out and he comes good, so be it.

Chelsea have made a fortune over the years from recognising when they've got the best years out of a player and knowing when to move them in confidence that they've had their best years out of them. Cech, David luiz, Mata, matic, mount all spring to mind, where any of them a real success at the clubs they ended up?

If any of our rivals were willing to pay good money and we deem Rashford untenable at the club we should be snapping the hands off the club willing to pay the most, direct rival or not.
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Salah, KDB ...

Just saying
 
Shark said:
Ah look, we're never going to agree on anything if you believe that. In my honest opinion, giving players like Rashford and Pogba the gigantic platform, and keys to the club like worshipping vs what they've actually served up on the pitch is why the club has been a collosal failure for over a decade. Players with victim mentalitys to boot.
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You think Pogba and Rashford have been worshipped?? By who exactly?
 
He wants to be somewhere where he's worshipped. That is the antithesis of what Amorim is trying to build.
 
It’s funny how many people bought into his post of the tv after the city victory then bashed Garnacho for not posting anything. Then this comes out. Yikes.
 
Kag said:
Stories about clubs looking to shift players are in the news all the time. That’s part of the game and clubs, agents and players all engage in that.

Rashford doing this interview with Winter is an active decision to tell the world he’s looking to leave. That isn’t the norm and doesn’t help anyone.

By all means leave. By all means want to leave. Just keep your head down and wait it out. I have no personal issue with Rashford, but this is a seriously daft thing to do.
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Hear Hear, I could not agree more.

To all those posters who think we owe something extra to Marcus because he is a local lad and performed well in the past I say he was worshipped, and has been excellently rewarded financially.

To all those posters who feel that his charitable works somehow absolves him from criticism I say he was again rewarded with public salutation and an MBE.

He was only left out of the match on Sunday, approximately 48 hours ago, and somewhere in between managed to find time to have an interview with Henry Winter. I wonder whether he managed to find the time to have a discussion on his future with his manger as well ?
 
Will he be eligible for champions league if he goes in January? Different European competition not sure. Buy some struggling champions league team might take him
 
sizzling sausages said:
You think Pogba and Rashford have been worshipped?? By who exactly?
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They were both rated far beyond their actual abilities on a football pitch is what I'm getting at. Both were given substantial opportunities to succeed at the club, Pogba even brought back for a record fee, and neither repayed the clubs faith because neither could actually play for the team and didn't have the ability to back it up.
 
No need to make this bigger than it is. Player wants new challenge. Ok lad good luck. Sell and get on with it.
Way too happy about our new manager to worry about some interviews from a squad player. We finally got some momentum it seems and a feel of real positivity is back at the club. Not going to get derailed by this nonsense
 
Godfather said:
No need to make this bigger than it is. Player wants new challenge. Ok lad good luck. Sell and get on with it.
Way too happy about our new manager to worry about some interviews from a squad player. We finally got some momentum it seems and a feel of real positivity is back at the club. Not going to get derailed by this nonsense
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Except it's not January yet, and we don't even know if he informed the club of this, yet. If this runs on until the end of May it'll definitely be a huge distraction for the manager.
 
It’s a shame it’s come to this, he’s never been the ‘best’ player in the squad but he has been very effective in the past and I’m sure we were all hoping for him to become a consistent 25-30 goal a season player for us.

Whether is it’s his back injury or he’s mentally a low confidence person that doesn’t excuse a total lack of effort we generally seen in the last 18mths. He just isn’t happy so good luck to him in the future, it’s the right time for him to leave.
 
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