He very obviously put in more of a shift in the first couple of games after his discipline issues. Thats now gone again. Guy just doesn't care when it comes down to it.
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With this latest 'effort' getting a decent amount of attention, I wouldn't be surprised if we see him working harder again for a few games.
I said the same after the drinking episode and was proven right, so let's see if it happens again.
No doubt he didnt try to defend his goal and prevent a dangerous player entering a dangerous area of the pitch.
There is no excuse for not trying.
Not been much if any better than Rashford this year and for over 100 million most likely too, he's only had one good season in a strong league, you're basing him being better than Rashford on one good season when Rashford was far ahead of him in G/A in that same season.
I'll be honest I've not watched him this season really, but it's the not G/A I'm bothered about it's play style. Kvara is an actual winger.
I think my answer on the Rashford issue falls in between these two posts. I'm somewhat concerned that if we let him go, the alternatives out there are far from a guaranteed hit, and could leave us in another problem in 12-18 months time where they are further pricey issues. Or, that we'll target the wrong profile of player -- though I'm slightly less concerned about this with the new persons in place at the club.
That being said... whoever we get simply has to be a stylistic improvement. Rashford - when in full flow - is a great G/A grabber, but his general play tends to lapse and underwhelm.
I'm all for letting him go if new winger is going to be one who is one with a far tidier all-round game to improve the team as a whole.
Watching Barkley walk round Rashford was very distressing, he never even tried to take the ball off him. Has he down tools for the club or just Ten Hag? What Rashford did was Undefensible and sad as it is looks like he has to move on not just for the club but for himself to have a new challenge.
Personally I don’t think he wants to play under our manager anymore. You just know if/when he leaves he’s going to smash it at his new club.
Oh I think his mind has been elsewhere for a while.. what an ego! What a way to respond to a new contract. Rashford should reflect on who has worn that shirt... but he will not. I'm not saying he's a bad lad, I don't think he is. But he is caught between being something and someone off the pitch, while he is still not doing the business on the pitch. His brand needs a big, big demanding club.. but his performances do not reflect that and he is not good enough to coast through a season. If CR7 has to work his socks off, why doesn't Marcus Rashford?
There are many, many attacking players across Europe who are as good if not arguably better than Rashford. I actually have a feeling he may end up at Barca'. They have no money at all, have no manager and need to refresh the side. Rashford has a bit of a name so he will fit. If he goes, he could do v well at La Liga.
Genuinely want him gone. I remember seeing that Barkley bit live and was utterly speechless. Is this the kind of effort you expect from one of the "local lads"?
If PSG can stump up anything north of £70m, we'll be making progress. You can not justify that sort of pressing away from the home when we're 2-1 up and under pressure.
If PSG can stump up anything north of £70m, we'll be making progress. You can not justify that sort of pressing away from the home when we're 2-1 up and under pressure.
I'm in agreement I'd let him go but the replacement has to be top class though, letting him go for someone who is just not named Rashford would be like punching yourself in the face
I’m sick of making excuses for him. Feels like I’ve been saying for years now ‘oh there must be stuff we aren’t seeing’, ‘maybe he’s still injured’ etc.
By all means help him with his mental health issues, drink problem, whatever it may be. But at the end of the day we’re paying someone 350k each week to put in minimum effort - we’re not a charity. That clip of him ‘pressing’ Barkley is fraudulent!
Kind of feel he is hiding behind the recent success of Garnacho and Hojlund, who have both been really good lately. I thought he was okay at Luton, some weird decisions like the dive and the lack of pressing on Barkley. I just don't think he is an intelligent footballer. I worry the club may regret not selling him, if PSG are interested.
Seems too good to be true considering PSG are likely to pursue Osimhen.
If PSG do come knocking for Rashford, we shouldn't be overvaluing him out of a move. He's £60-70m maximum.
Would love to see him gone.
If PSG do come knocking for Rashford, we shouldn't be overvaluing him out of a move. He's £60-70m maximum.
Would love to see him gone.
if you can get 70m for Rashford and ship him to France....you do so b/c he's a shell of the player he should be and used to be
Wouldn’t be sad to sell him to PSG. The FFP gains would be a big old boost too.
Still don't see us selling him unless he wanted to go. I'm also not quite sure the upside in selling him is worth it but I'm willing to be enlightened.
It could be the case, however, there was multiple occasions where he backed out of challenges and Ariel challenges. It wasn’t an isolated incident.
This is a sensible take.
Doracle gives a fuller accounting above.
Seems like he doesnt want to be part of the rebuild.
Best for both parties if he's moved on.
Best for both parties if he's moved on.
He isn’t intelligent enough to keep shape or see that Garnacho was covering. And if he has seen Garnacho, he should be able to also see that he wasn’t close enough.
Doracle puts a good defence case for this action, but the eye test for most watching can see it wasn’t good enough
Just to be clear, I don’t think it was how he should have dealt with it. I just don’t think it was because he’s lazy/doesn’t want to play for the club etc.
The upside is you get to sell a player who will never be better than he is right now, for a premium fee (because of huge name value) to then reinvest into someone that's far more well rounded (assuming the new footballing dept can do their job).
For all of Rashford's history with us, his output is wildly inconsistent year to year attacking wise and throughout that you also have someone that refuses to work much off of the ball and shrinks from challenges. That's a difficult player to rely on as a "star" of the team when the other option is being able to sell him for close to 70m and cash in.
I can't see him wanting to go. He's in his comfort zone at a club that will protect him at all costs.
Considering the team has lost Cavani, Ronaldo, Greenwood in the last few seasons plus the inevitable departure of Sancho and Martial this season, getting rid of Rashford should be at the bottom of the list of priorities this summer.
The team lacks goals so lets try to keep a few players than can score.
The team lacks goals so lets try to keep a few players than can score.
He's scored 5 goals this year in almost 30 appearances. We aren't talking about shipping out RVN here, the production isn't too difficult to replace especially if the team as a whole can function better with a replacement in his stead.
Who's going to buy him? over 300k a week and a fat fee for a player who hasn't really done much for a few season (aside down tools and sulk) and has a poor reputation. He's not really doing much back at his 'home' club and they don't seem very arsed about signing him permanently.
Do you have a replacement in mind? I can just see the headache of trying to replace him. These wide forwards are so hit and miss.
He body language seems subdued though, I swear you can see doubt on his face. I wouldn't be surprised if he took the offer from PSG ostensibly.
Can't argue with that...so lets put that higher on the priority list than binning off Rashford. (But that wasn't exactly the main jist of my original post)
So you are worried about swapping out a player who is hit and miss for a load of money and a different player who might be hit and miss?
Come on PSG, sign him.
I vaguely remember that and the crowd went ballistic at him for not jumping for a header. In fairness he might have been injured but we do say that a lot about him over the years.
its hardly a one off, its why fans have been on his back for a while now. (who he then tells to shut up)
FTFY.
Just look at the difference in work ethics between him and Hojlund or Garnacho. He cannot be allowed to think that’s ok because that spreads to other team members. I think Brailsford will be all over this kinda thing
Pretty much. It's kind of like the devil you know idiom. It's a bit irrational, I understand.
Rashford hasn’t won a header in about 3 years.
Think he’s 6ft as well, clearly just doesn’t fancy it.
I'd be very happy if these rumours were true.
I'm sick of his lack of effort in matches its not good enough.
I'm sick of his lack of effort in matches its not good enough.
He didn't score 15 league goals at 23 and at 24. Rashford hasn't prove enough to be considered as a player who can guarantee 15 league goals.
We are not competing with City, Arsenal and Liverpool right now with Rashford in the team, so what makes you think we have the squad to compete or win to force this idea that Rashford cannot be replaced by prospect player?
And that bold part is the reason why signing a prospect player who is in the future can score 15+ league goals but ready to start like Hojlund not like Amad because it is sensible move for our current rebuilding stage to build alongside Hojlund, Garnacho, and Mainoo.
All players have a dip in form or a poor game, but there is never any excuse for not giving 100% effort for your team, even when your having an off day yourself.
I'd repeat that to any player at any level, it's the most basic requirement, but when you are on £300 grand a week, and still can't be arsed, then that is absolutely unforgivable.
It's such a slap in the face to your Manager and team mates, and an absolute insult to the supporters.
It's so frustrating, because Rashford does have the ability to be fantastic, but his attitude stinks.