I doubt Sir Jim will want to sell our best players.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids
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He is within his rights to see out his contract of course.
He may have to spend quite a lot of that time in the Dame Judy though.
Carrying the club 
Has to be a pisstake
Has to be a pisstakeMore or less constantly since his debut (with the exception of 21/22)
My god.
He’s not that good, apparently.
Every player has their price. Rashford isn't irreplaceable.
Only if Sir Jimmy has 60-65M of the pending salary lying in his pocket.
You should stick to hero worshipping billionaires.
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Carry us where? You mean carrying himself to a bumper contract after bumper contract way beyond than his talent and application deserves on the pitch? Jesus, what happened to the standards at this club? A player is taking the piss and has been for quite a while and people are still defending him.
I see this thread at the top and assume there’s something happening…..
https://onefootball.com/en/news/pep...-is-good-enough-to-play-for-man-city-39084435
Despite his inconsistencies, I believe he's one of the very few players we have that scares teams to death, and I believe, managers tactically plan to try and stop him like teams would do with Haaland, Mbappe, Salah, Son, etc.
Despite his inconsistencies, I believe he's one of the very few players we have that scares teams to death, and I believe, managers tactically plan to try and stop him like teams would do with Haaland, Mbappe, Salah, Son, etc.
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His being treated like a slave is disgusting. Reminds me of Ronaldo all those years ago
Exactly right. Abhorrent
Especially one that walks around the pitch and backs out of 50/50s
So we should sell him to Madrid for a world record fee? If you insist.
Or with new investors and with a proper structure in place the board make a decision to cash in on this overrated overpaid player who couldn’t give a toss about the badge .
I should have known you’d be along!
He was decent whilst carrying his injuries. He was shite the season after, when he put off surgery to play with England. He was then out til Octoberish and was rubbish for the rest of that season, as were the rest of the team to be fair.
Remember when Fergie decided guys like Keane, Stam and Beckham weren’t bigger than the club?
Nowadays you have clowns acting as though spoofers like Rashford are. If that doesn’t sum up the standards of the past decade I don’t know what could.
Nowadays you have clowns acting as though spoofers like Rashford are. If that doesn’t sum up the standards of the past decade I don’t know what could.
Aye, I meant he shouldn’t be forced out by the ‘fans’. He’s been one of our most productive players in G&A along with Bruno for the last few seasons and yet some would sell both and have us scrapping in mid table with Chelsea.
I should have known you’d be along!
He was decent whilst carrying his injuries. He was shite the season after, when he put off surgery to play with England. He was then out til Octoberish and was rubbish for the rest of that season, as were the rest of the team to be fair.
he played how he should play for his position and wages. He didn’t do us a favour, he just did what is expected of him.
He has been bang average way more than he has brilliant.
Those for getting rid...must also want a new face coming in.
I'd suggest getting rid of Martial, Sancho and Antony and bringing in a new face would be the better option.
There is a limit on how many fires Sir Jim can put out in the summer. Rashford genuinely is not that big of an issue, he's had a poor season (like everyone else) but he has shown signs of combining with Hojlund and in the last 2 months the forwards have been alright if not pretty decent.
I'd suggest getting rid of Martial, Sancho and Antony and bringing in a new face would be the better option.
There is a limit on how many fires Sir Jim can put out in the summer. Rashford genuinely is not that big of an issue, he's had a poor season (like everyone else) but he has shown signs of combining with Hojlund and in the last 2 months the forwards have been alright if not pretty decent.
James Beattie, Craig Bellamy, Kevin Campbell, Callum Wilson, Christian Benteke, Kevin Davies, Darren Bent, Kevin Phillips.
Just a selection of players who have scored more Premier League goals than Rashford. Yet we’re supposed to act like he’s an icon for a club of United stature, to the extent that we should ignore him walking around the pitch, disgracing the shirt?
United stopped owing him a thing the day he decided he didn’t have to work for it anymore.
There have been far bigger and far better players than he, moved on for far less in our past.
Just a selection of players who have scored more Premier League goals than Rashford. Yet we’re supposed to act like he’s an icon for a club of United stature, to the extent that we should ignore him walking around the pitch, disgracing the shirt?
United stopped owing him a thing the day he decided he didn’t have to work for it anymore.
There have been far bigger and far better players than he, moved on for far less in our past.
The problem with that is, you're lucky to get half of Rashford's fee from those players combined and nothing from Martial as he's leaving on a free anyway. Aside from the posters who go over the top and say he's awful, he doesn't care etc. there are some that believe that the club have to be a bit more savvy about letting players go when they still have value and when there is a calculated gamble in letting them go. Look at the players in recent years that left for free or very little when they could have been sold and who then proceeded to do feck all with their careers here (Pogba, Lingard etc) .This club actually used to be very good at making those calls with the likes of Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis, Sharpe, and even the likes of Becks and Ruud.
We often like to think "what would Sir Alex do" but i doubt he'd put up with two poor seasons in three years from his most senior forward, especially having youngsters like Hojlund and Garnacho getting better all the time.
Reasonable and correct.
Are the players you mention all 26? Nope didn’t think so. Let’s compare when Marcus retires shall we. What a silly post.
No but many of them spent multiple seasons of their careers in lower divisions.
None of them were earning 300k a week either.
give him a payrise too
To be fair, I remember Berbatov used to always do that in the pre match warm up. All of our forwards and midfielders would do shooting practice, whilst Berbatov stood around doing kick ups by himself. I wouldn't read too much into it personally in terms of friendships with his peers. Although I do agree that his overall body language isn't what it used to be - perhaps he may have fallen out of love with football.
Pretty sure he played with a broken back in 2020-21 and in that period he had two 20+ goal seasons which got us back to back top 4 finishes.
Always really liked Rashford as a player, even during his poor runs of form I defended him. For the first time, I'm getting fatigued waiting for him to become a consistent player.
It would be a very brave move to sell though, as it's not the right time in my opinion. Him and Bruno are basically the faces of United. If he leaves and starts smashing it at PSG whilst we are still struggling in the league next season - it would be awful PR for Ratcliffe and co. A lot to lose and not an awful lot to gain by selling, especially when there's easier assets to move on this summer (Greenwood, Sancho, Maguire, AWB) and he has so long left on his contract. Selling in summer 2025 would make more sense, if we decide he's no longer needed.
It would be a very brave move to sell though, as it's not the right time in my opinion. Him and Bruno are basically the faces of United. If he leaves and starts smashing it at PSG whilst we are still struggling in the league next season - it would be awful PR for Ratcliffe and co. A lot to lose and not an awful lot to gain by selling, especially when there's easier assets to move on this summer (Greenwood, Sancho, Maguire, AWB) and he has so long left on his contract. Selling in summer 2025 would make more sense, if we decide he's no longer needed.
Martial, is away on a Free come the summer. Sancho likely Sold too. If the Right offer comes in for Rashford I would sell too no problem. He is absolutely not irreplaceable Some top winding up on here. Rashford would prob benefit from a move anyway. We need a team that all play for each other and put a shift in. He a very unlikeable player now if he was ever otherwise i cannot remember it. As for bad PR for selling and then doing elsewhere thats right out of the Woodward book of contract extension giving. It will actually help the club in the longer term for selling players if when we sell that players provide value for money to the buying club. If every player a bust who would buy from us. Not that we have been any good at selling players since Sir Alex left anyway.
Realistically, I think there is a only a small chance of Rashford being sold this summer and that's mainly due to PSG having an opening with Mbappe's departure. I can't see any other teams interested who could afford him and I suspect his value will start to plummet over the next few seasons. If PSG come with a decent offer, then we should use the funds to bring in 2-3 lesser-known players (Brighton-style). I'd be willing to take the risk based on Rashford's output.
Martial should be released on a free, but he's been missing most of the season, so we've managed without him for this long already. Sancho should be gone, probably on loan, unless EtH is sacked. Antony I can't see going anywhere.
But there's a very likely scenario where Rashford is having a great season next year at another club and we are struggling to score goals with a new front line that needs bedding in. Suddenly, Rashford becomes a stick to beat the club with (the media doesn't need much excuse) casting doubts over the whole management structure during their first year.
He's contracted to 2028. The value we lose in selling him this summer to next summer is largely irrelevant.
Factor in we already need at least on forward, we sell Rashford and we need to bed in two regular starting forwards next year.
I'm all for selling, I just think it needs to be timed right. Of course, if PSG come in with a silly offer in the region of £100m, I'd snap their hands off. But I can't see that happening.
yes it was Ole kept playing him with a back fracture. By the time the fallout came with Rangnick, he did say at that point there are no injury issues with him
People aren’t getting it. It’s not the poor form that’s an issue. It’s not even the fact that he’s inconsistent. It’s the fact that he’s a lazy, sulky git.
I reckon he approached the season a little too big for his boots on the back of last.
I think his weak mentality and his inconsistency are very tightly connected. But I agree, he hasn't got the mindset I want to see from our players, neither did Jadon Sancho. We need to stay clear of these players from now on.