Because he earns a massive salary and produced an abysmal level of effort and performance for the entirety of the most recent football season. Few clubs would be interested right now if he was available for 25M and would only want a wage of 100k, the fact that you would need to triple those numbers just to get a chance to talk to his agent is why the market for him is freezing cold. With the number of years left on his deal we have no choice other than to try and get him happy and firing again.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids
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Because he earns a massive salary and produced an abysmal level of effort and performance for the entirety of the most recent football season. Few clubs would be interested right now if he was available for 25M and would only want a wage of 100k, the fact that you would need to triple those numbers just to get a chance to talk to his agent is why the market for him is freezing cold. With the number of years left on his deal we have no choice other than to try and get him happy and firing again.
Him not getting into the England squad and there being a large indifference from everyone as a result (because everyone thought he didn’t deserve to get in anyway due to his club form) should be more than enough motivation for him, and if that doesn't do it then nothing will.
I believe he is a talented player but it’s a narrow and specific talent he has, where he has to be accommodated into the side and players around him have to pick up some of the work and we have to play a specific way (namely being a counterattacking team). I don’t see him reinventing himself like some of our other academy guys did in their careers like Giggs, Scholes and Beckham. His style of play is reliant on his pace. I honestly see him retired from football by the time he’s 33. My theory is that’s a result of having too much too soon, sapping his desire to get better (may be something in that considering he looks roughly the same player he did when he was 22) which we can potentially blame the Glazers and Woodward for, as they were threw money around like confetti, especially when Brandon Williams had been on £65k a week for us.
How do you motivate someone you’ve already given the world too? It’s like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
I believe he is a talented player but it’s a narrow and specific talent he has, where he has to be accommodated into the side and players around him have to pick up some of the work and we have to play a specific way (namely being a counterattacking team). I don’t see him reinventing himself like some of our other academy guys did in their careers like Giggs, Scholes and Beckham. His style of play is reliant on his pace. I honestly see him retired from football by the time he’s 33. My theory is that’s a result of having too much too soon, sapping his desire to get better (may be something in that considering he looks roughly the same player he did when he was 22) which we can potentially blame the Glazers and Woodward for, as they were threw money around like confetti, especially when Brandon Williams had been on £65k a week for us.
How do you motivate someone you’ve already given the world too? It’s like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
If the rumour of the Al Nasir offer is true wonder if he would consider it. It’s 600k a week but if he did then he has given up on being a serious footballer.
Well his wages are one problem but would you really want Rashford in United if he played for Crystal Palace or Fulham? You wouldn’t notice him at all
Because he's not worth a high fee ahead of way, Olise or Williams. He's 26 and alternates between a good season and bad season.
I don’t think Rashford is about money. Brand Rashford is what he wants to develop. He won’t leave United until his forced to
I think you’re missing the point. If we get rid of one high wage earner we will 100% replace him with another high wage earner.
We are no longer going past 250k a week or something like that as the maximum wage anymore. Days of paying players 300k plus are over apart from those on those contracts already.
There is an abundance of left sided forwards to choose from who could replace him.
To be fair to him and all footballers out there, only a few players ever get to win things consistently, the rest just watch on and maybe pick up a single trophy or two in a 15 year career. You can’t really blame any of them for taking the money and doing half the work with way less scrutiny.
I always thought that only teenagers who are new into football would come up with arguments like "he scored 30 goals in one season of his career so he must be world class", it is quite tiring to see such kind of arguments over and over again on a supposedly better football-educated forum.
Its just the romanticism associated with him. Local lad and product of the academy. They wouldn’t make such arguments for a player brought in via the transfer window.
Probably, I guess if we ask them do they think if Kevin Philips or Mario Gomez were world class they would probably say no.
Certainly any bid over 60m should be considered, not sure he wants to leave personally.
You think very highly of the cafe.
If you want to shit on the forum and its posters why even post on here ...
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Nothing wrong with a reality check. There is some very knowledgable people on here but there is also a lot of posters that come out with dumb takes and clearly don't watch more than highlights.
He was world class the season before last, no question
That was because of Luke Shaw though
Sorry he wasn’t. He scored plenty of goals, he wasn’t world class.
World class, the useless term and people argue so much about the pointless word that doesn't even have proper definition 
As long as we get Williams, I dont care if he leaves at this point
I love this forum. Its a great place to be in. However it does has a knack of being polarized. If you criticize someone then its evident that he's shit etc.
Rashford had been outstanding during the season before the last one pulling WC performances on a regular basis. That wasn't the first year he did so either. He had some great seasons in the past for us as well. To attribute that to Luke Shaw is also unfair. Every winger deserves a decent LB at his back something every left winger at an EPL club level deserves.
Is Rashford WC though? Well I believe that one can be called WC if he can do that across multiple years, something Rashford had always struggled with. Last year we've seen traits of him that were extremely undesirable from skipping training to not working hard for the team on the pitch right to challenging youtube channels that should have been ignored. Those are the reasons why I believe that if we get a good offer and Rashford wants to leave then we should sell him. The latter might irk some people but let us be honest. If Rashford doesn't want to leave then he won't leave. That contract is indeed iron clad.
Whether he stays or he goes then we need to phase Shaw out. He's too injury prone and we can't keep playing without a LB.
Rashford had been outstanding during the season before the last one pulling WC performances on a regular basis. That wasn't the first year he did so either. He had some great seasons in the past for us as well. To attribute that to Luke Shaw is also unfair. Every winger deserves a decent LB at his back something every left winger at an EPL club level deserves.
Is Rashford WC though? Well I believe that one can be called WC if he can do that across multiple years, something Rashford had always struggled with. Last year we've seen traits of him that were extremely undesirable from skipping training to not working hard for the team on the pitch right to challenging youtube channels that should have been ignored. Those are the reasons why I believe that if we get a good offer and Rashford wants to leave then we should sell him. The latter might irk some people but let us be honest. If Rashford doesn't want to leave then he won't leave. That contract is indeed iron clad.
Whether he stays or he goes then we need to phase Shaw out. He's too injury prone and we can't keep playing without a LB.
I would worry about the message it sends out letting him stay after that season. Anyone can have a poor season, but the consistent lack of effort was of someone who couldn’t care less about his profile and example to the younger members of the squad. It was of someone wanting the manager sacked, a manager that is now staying and signing a new deal.
It’s time to go and it’s time to set new standards and a message to the younger players. If you want a career here, you have to work for it. For Marcus, needing to prove himself in a new environment could be exactly what he needs
It’s time to go and it’s time to set new standards and a message to the younger players. If you want a career here, you have to work for it. For Marcus, needing to prove himself in a new environment could be exactly what he needs
He wasn't. "World class" is of course subjective, but there are too many comparatively average players who would be taken in by a definition of 'season or two with unbelievable stats'.
Kevin Philips wasn't "World Class". Defoe wasn't. Even Andy Cole wasn't and he's a much better player than Rashford all round. The list goes on and on. Stickinh just with the English lads, Shearer was a great goal scorer, never a World class player and that opinion was never controversial at the time because "World class" meant something and was understood that as good as Shearer was, he wasn't World class good.
The watering down of the term world class to now essentially mean 'very good for a bit' is one of the most frustrating things about football debate. Soon we'll be at the stage where someone is "world clas" for a decent last 25 minutes.
There's an argument to be made that a supporter base and media so comfortable in self-evident hyperbole and anointing players world class by a very low threshold, probably didn't Rashford's performances and on pitch application and effort.
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I'd definitely say that Shearer was a World Class player.
Great goal scorer but overall not for me. Good, very good or exceptional at one thing makes a great player not a world class one. It's all our own individual definitions. There's probably a very small handful of world class players to have ever played in the league in my memory/lifetime. Henry, I think, was world class even though his individual season stats never reached the pique of a Cole, Phillips, RvN or Shearer or even over the long term with someone like Shearer - all great players but I don't see them as world class.
Scholes was world class, Gerrard and Lampard never were. There's something intangible that defines a world class player. It can't just be 'being brilliant at something'. In any event, Rashford has never been in the same postcode of the conversation.
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Shearer was absolutely a world class player.
Shearer wasn't just a great goalscorer. He wasn't Haaland. He was a much better all round footballer. Certainly in his younger years. Henry was undoubtedly a World Class player. Also, his individual season stats are up there with and even surpasses all the names you mention. Agreed on Rashford not being World Class. His body of work contains multiple very good seasons, but not at a consistent year on year level.
World class, the useless term and people argue so much about the pointless word that doesn't even have proper definition
You posted this and they've immediately gone on to do exactly that for the next seven or eight posts
Even that season, he was just ok for half of it. 4 league goals or something before the break for the world cup.
Such nonsense.
World class means one of the best in the world in their position.
So, basically would that player get into a squad for best in the world.
When on form, i.e. in the season before last, Rashford would absolutely have made that squad, moreso given he was on fire playing both the inside left and inside right forward positions.
With these new reports of a breakdown in relationship with Ten Hag, its obvious this isnt really breaking news at this stage... Its pretty clear Marcus is one of these reported players that was sitting around all summer waiting to see if EtH got the sack so they could decide to start playing again.. (him and his d*ckhead mate Jadon)
Ill stick with what i said a long time ago, that any player willing to sit about waiting to see if another manager gets the boot , should be shown the door asap. Exactly the type of player we need shot of. Dont care who you are or what your name is. Absolute awful attitude to have
Ill stick with what i said a long time ago, that any player willing to sit about waiting to see if another manager gets the boot , should be shown the door asap. Exactly the type of player we need shot of. Dont care who you are or what your name is. Absolute awful attitude to have
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If he would go it would do wonders with PSR and the new transfer budget so hope it happens.
My one wish for the summer is that PSG are stupid enough to spunk upwards of £80m on him.