Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

Me neither. I actually seriously doubt PSG are as interested in him as is regularly made out. he badly needs to get his head down next season or his career goes into free fall. I think he has the talent but not the drive or the fitness.
Same. I don't see where he fits with Barcola coming through. Hopefully Rashford returns to form next season.
 
Out: Rashford to PSG £100m
In: Palmer to Utd £100m

I’d do this deal every day
 
Arent PSG trying to sign the Georgian from Napoli? So he isnt going there and where else does he go? Fairly big clubs seem unable to afford Sancho or Greenwood.

Think ourbest chance of selling is to E glish clubsbar Greenwood and cant see Rashford moving to one. Unless we accept under £50mfor him he is probably going nowehere.

Also all these"Id only let him go if we sign player x" and are naming elite exiting players....Rashford at his best is hard to replace....but thats about 1.5seasons from the last 5....Rashford as a whole is easily replacable, he was forus last season, hehas bee for his oountry, forgetthose 4months and theobvious ability he does have, he really hasnt been good at all bar thatright back to the early days under Ole
 
Arent PSG trying to sign the Georgian from Napoli? So he isnt going there and where else does he go? Fairly big clubs seem unable to afford Sancho or Greenwood.

Think ourbest chance of selling is to E glish clubsbar Greenwood and cant see Rashford moving to one. Unless we accept under £50mfor him he is probably going nowehere.

Also all these"Id only let him go if we sign player x" and are naming elite exiting players....Rashford at his best is hard to replace....but thats about 1.5seasons from the last 5....Rashford as a whole is easily replacable, he was forus last season, hehas bee for his oountry, forgetthose 4months and theobvious ability he does have, he really hasnt been good at all bar thatright back to the early days under Ole

He has us by the stones, I’m sure thats more than part of the reason he’s been acting like a spoiled child for the last few years. Too much pressure on him for his liking but happy to take the money of course. That’s fair enough from his standpoint but not good enough for us. PSG are the only show in town as far as Rashford (and his PR team) are concerned. Everyone knows no other big club with cash that he’ll want to go to are going to take him and PSG is probably a pipe dream for the player at this point if he’s unhappy here.
 
If we can somehow get him out, they'll be no doubt other players would see that and know bad performance isn't tolerated here.
 
I think it’s at the stage now where Rashford’s departure (for the right price of course) would probably be the best outcome for both himself and the club .
I genuinely don't think we'll get the 'right price' for him. Club's gotta make a decision
 

Honestly such a shit source.
This is nowhere on Jacobs twitter
Not a shit source but a truly shit channel/aggregator.

Ben Jacobs said United and PSG spoke about a range of players/matters (Ugarte being one). Rashford was mentioned. But nothing more - and PSG have a sense that he used them to get a better contract with United last time, so they don't want to speak to him unless he's serious. The feeling is Rashford wants to stay at United and prove himself.

Of course, the channel (or aggregator) didn't bother with full accuracy and cherry picked what looks most saucy. This is why youtube channel tweets are shit.
 
Paris should be a very attractive proposition for our homeboy. Fantastic wages and parties, with Manchester and London within reach. Also won't need to put in as much effort as he's expected to in the PL.

He's also at the age where his transfer fee won't go much higher. If PSG comes with a good offer we should sell.
 
I am no longer emotionally invested in Rashford staying to the extent I was. However, I don't like the briefing out today.

Even if the club wants to sell Rashford, what if you can't?

Something of the Matteo Darmian about this. Everyone reporting that the club is happy for the player to go. Making claims about how the club sees him.

How do you motivate that player if you can't shift them? With that player knowing he's not rated and, in Rashford's case, having had disciplinary claims put in the press.

I don't understand it. If you're open to letting him go then let his agent get offers and bring them to the club. Nobody needs to be preparing the fan base by poisoning the well against the player.
 
I am no longer emotionally invested in Rashford staying to the extent I was. However, I don't like the briefing out today.

Even if the club wants to sell Rashford, what if you can't?

Something of the Matteo Darmian about this. Everyone reporting that the club is happy for the player to go. Making claims about how the club sees him.

How do you motivate that player if you can't shift them? With that player knowing he's not rated and, in Rashford's case, having had disciplinary claims put in the press.

I don't understand it. If you're open to letting him go then let his agent get offers and bring them to the club. Nobody needs to be preparing the fan base by poisoning the well against the player.

Has Ornstein or anyone else corroborated this if not I don't believe it
 
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I am no longer emotionally invested in Rashford staying to the extent I was. However, I don't like the briefing out today.

Even if the club wants to sell Rashford, what if you can't?

Something of the Matteo Darmian about this. Everyone reporting that the club is happy for the player to go. Making claims about how the club sees him.

How do you motivate that player if you can't shift them? With that player knowing he's not rated and, in Rashford's case, having had disciplinary claims put in the press.

I don't understand it. If you're open to letting him go then let his agent get offers and bring them to the club. Nobody needs to be preparing the fan base by poisoning the well against the player.
If Rashford ends up staying, and isn't motivated by his childhood club having been happy to get rid of him, there is no hope for him anyway.

Motivation comes from the inside, first and foremost.
 
Not a shit source but a truly shit channel/aggregator.

Ben Jacobs said United and PSG spoke about a range of players/matters (Ugarte being one). Rashford was mentioned. But nothing more - and PSG have a sense that he used them to get a better contract with United last time, so they don't want to speak to him unless he's serious. The feeling is Rashford wants to stay at United and prove himself.

Of course, the channel (or aggregator) didn't bother with full accuracy and cherry picked what looks most saucy. This is why youtube channel tweets are shit.
He posts made-up nonsense.
 
I am no longer emotionally invested in Rashford staying to the extent I was. However, I don't like the briefing out today.

Even if the club wants to sell Rashford, what if you can't?

Something of the Matteo Darmian about this. Everyone reporting that the club is happy for the player to go. Making claims about how the club sees him.

How do you motivate that player if you can't shift them? With that player knowing he's not rated and, in Rashford's case, having had disciplinary claims put in the press.

I don't understand it. If you're open to letting him go then let his agent get offers and bring them to the club. Nobody needs to be preparing the fan base by poisoning the well against the player.

maybe he's already gone
 
If we're being honest to be successful next season we need an in form Rashford or someone that can give us what an in form Rashford does. The number of players that we can get that can do that is about 0, so that leaves us in a bit of a pickle in navigating a potential sale of him.
 
If we're being honest to be successful next season we need an in form Rashford or someone that can give us what an in form Rashford does. The number of players that we can get that can do that is about 0, so that leaves us in a bit of a pickle in navigating a potential sale of him.
We can't rely on Rashford either, so that leaves us in an even bigger pickle.
 
A cardboard cut out will be an adequate replacement based on last season.

If you check the stats you can almost deduce that whenever Rashford did well, Manchester United did well. The correlation might work the opposite way ie when Manchester United does well then Rashford does well as well. However there's no denying that prime United allow Rashford to shine and it relies on its goals and assists as well. Last season for example he made 10 assists, he scored 30 goals in 56 matches. That's remarkable.

That's not all. Rashford's contribution are often minimized as well. Even in his worse seasons like the previous one he did manage to score 8 goals and create 5 assists. That's just 2 goals less then Garnacho (same amount of assists) and in terms of goals as much as Eriksen, Antony, Amad and Martial combined.

Now let's make it clear I want Rashford gone. That's down to four things

a- He's not worth 350k a week. A player like that needs to be consistent on a week in week out basis. Sure dips in form will occur but it can't last months and it doesn't excuse him from turning up on the pitch/training and actually work hard
b- He's a thin skinned player. whose affected by everything around him. That's lethal at a top club where the scrutiny is constant and criticism is unavoidable
c- Rashford seem only able to operate as a focal player (ie team built around him) but he can't be a focal player because of B. Focal player need to carry the squad including any criticism thrown at it. Think of Eric, Ibra, Messi, Ronaldo or Baggio. They are the team. Rashford can't do that.
b- I am not a big fan of the focal player in the first place. It makes the team predictable as everything will need to pass through him

Yet there's no denying that if Rashford leaves then he needs to be replaced. That doesn't necessarily mean like with like. The squad can be adapted with a better striker coming in, more solidity in midfield and defence, better wing backs and a lesser but still effective winger. However we can't allow Rashford to leave and not reinvest that money. This is not Manchester United 2010-2011 squad let alone the 1997-98 one
 
Taking 350k a week off our books and a £60-£80mil transfer fee. Would take that all day long. Do love home grown players, but for his own career development I think he needs to move on to new surroundings.
 
Taking 350k a week off our books and a £60-£80mil transfer fee. Would take that all day long. Do love home grown players, but for his own career development I think he needs to move on to new surroundings.
Yeah cause if he leaves then we are replacing him with someone who earns £10k a week and costs £10m?
 
Yeah cause if he leaves then we are replacing him with someone who earns £10k a week and costs £10m?
We could replace him with a cardboard cutout of Britney spears and that would still be more effective.
 
We got to get him right in the head and fit. He scored 30 goals a year ago. This is a world class player at his best. Southgate dropping him from the Euro squad has to be a wake up call. He'll be 27 in October. This is his prime now. If he lets it slip away, he's a idiot. You dont get a second chance to be young and talented.
 
We got to get him right in the head and fit. He scored 30 goals a year ago. This is a world class player at his best. Southgate dropping him from the Euro squad has to be a wake up call. He'll be 27 in October. This is his prime now. If he lets it slip away, he's a idiot. You dont get a second chance to be young and talented.
Rashford has never been world class and likely never will be.
 
We got to get him right in the head and fit. He scored 30 goals a year ago. This is a world class player at his best. Southgate dropping him from the Euro squad has to be a wake up call. He'll be 27 in October. This is his prime now. If he lets it slip away, he's a idiot. You dont get a second chance to be young and talented.
Well if you remove all context and look purely at goal total maybe.
 
Why are no clubs trying to get him off us?