Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

It'll be like us selling them welbeck. There's really nothing to be concerned about.
 
Stadjer said:
He would only be scary if you think of him at his very best. When at his best he is great but he has not been at his best this year. Some of that might have to do with tactics or not having a left back to overlap and help him. Not passing, taking bad shots, sometimes being a bit lazy on the pitch and just not being able to get past his man in a one on one are more Rashford issues than tactic issues.
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He's never had the chance to play in a team as good as Arsenal have been for the last two seasons. If they seriously wanted him as well, that would mean they believe they can get him back to his best. Playing in a good environment, with better players around you, your team dominating possession every game, creating more chances, etc. would inevitably lead to a lot of goals and assists from Rashford. In a better team, he can show a level that we haven't seen from him.
 
Selling to a rival is an absolute no no for me. Even if I do think it’s time for a change of scenery for him. I’d rather sell to a team abroad for half the price than sell to a rival and watch him potentially rediscover his best form. Would be sickening watching him bang them in for another prem club.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
As soon as "hater" appears in a post it's a signal to automatically ignore the entirity of what's been said
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Have to agree, 'haters', 'cute' etc, there's no point when people use these terms.

On Rashford, yes please. I've wanted us to sell him for the past 3 years, even when he was scoring last year.

Another player who I feel hasn't improved, but that's partly on the managers.
 
Selling Danny Welbeck to them is okay, selling Rashford to them is absolutely not

Anyway it’s a bullshit source. I don’t even think he’ll contemplate joining them
 
Pexbo said:
I’d sell him to Arsenal no problem whatsoever. His best days are behind him and the distractions of London would be too much for him anyway. Rinse them for £80m+ and invest elsewhere.
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Yea agree - I’d have no problem selling them Rashers, although I’d say they need to put up at least £90m.
 
Rojofiam said:
Would be scary on that left side for Arsenal.

Really hope he stays. Has never been a problem when the team was collectively doing well. One of the best left wingers in Europe based on ability. Not gonna judge him in dysfunctional shit teams like 21/22 and 23/24, as we've seen what he can do in a better tactical setup:19/20, 20/21, 22/23. And he's never had the chance to play for a genuine title challenger side. I imagine he would shut up a lot of haters if he went to Arsenal. Having Rashford and Saka on the two wings would be unfair to the rest of the league.
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Personally, ive never questioned his ability, although he has some big technical flaws, he’s still an amazingly talented player. My issue with him is his attitude/application out on the pitch at times. I wouldn’t mind selling him if we got a big enough offer - and i actually think it might benefit him as well.
 
The Corinthian said:
Yea agree - I’d have no problem selling them Rashers, although I’d say they need to put up at least £90m.
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This place would be absolutely insufferable if he went there. It was insufferable enough with Welbeck there. Thankfully, it ain't gonna happen.
 
Stadjer said:
He would only be scary if you think of him at his very best. When at his best he is great but he has not been at his best this year. Some of that might have to do with tactics or not having a left back to overlap and help him. Not passing, taking bad shots, sometimes being a bit lazy on the pitch and just not being able to get past his man in a one on one are more Rashford issues than tactic issues.
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AWB would absolutely pocket him if he played for Arsenal. He’d clean him once or twice and then Rashford would start walking around. One less thing to worry about.
 
Sell him anywhere if the price is right for me. He will never be consistently top level, and his bottom level is very poor when combined with his clear lack of effort.

Definitely the right time to sell if we can manage it.
 
Have a feeling that he may well of shed a tear Saturday as he knows his time is up - probably best for both parties.

Paris bound if they don’t get Oshimen from Napoli
 
Stadjer said:
He would only be scary if you think of him at his very best. When at his best he is great but he has not been at his best this year. Some of that might have to do with tactics or not having a left back to overlap and help him. Not passing, taking bad shots, sometimes being a bit lazy on the pitch and just not being able to get past his man in a one on one are more Rashford issues than tactic issues.
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Considering how Arteta was worked wonders with Havertz, you never know.
 
I think all 3 of Rashford, Sancho & Greenwood will be at United next season.

They are near almost impossible to move on due to wages and maybe even things like self mentality.

I also have a gut feeling that Sir Jim might be a bit lenient towards British players at United.

I can for example see him wanting the best British players at the club and may be already targeting players like Wharton, Gray, Guehi or Brantwaithe.
 
GoldanoGraham said:
Have a feeling that he may well of shed a tear Saturday as he knows his time is up - probably best for both parties.

Paris bound if they don’t get Oshimen from Napoli
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He did post on social media something about “this is what United means” or similar. Suggesting it was emotion to win with us rather than leaving, but who knows?

If we get £60m+ (AND INVEST IT WISELY), I’d sell. That is pure profit for FFP purposes and with amortisation rules, equates to quite a bit we can invest. Same as Greenwood and McTominay… sell all three and we’ll have a fortune available
 
The Boy said:
I always think he plays and looks a lot better when Shaw is behind him, they have a good understanding and your left side is suddenly far more dangerous.
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Yep for all Rashys own issues people seem to overlook the difference that having a quality left footed full back behind him makes.
 
DontBeMeanToBeRuud said:
I think all 3 of Rashford, Sancho & Greenwood will be at United next season.

They are near almost impossible to move on due to wages and maybe even things like self mentality.

I also have a gut feeling that Sir Jim might be a bit lenient towards British players at United.

I can for example see him wanting the best British players at the club and may be already targeting players like Wharton, Gray, Guehi or Brantwaithe.
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0% that Greenwood stays for a list of reasons

The others might be hard to find buyers who can make it financially viable while paying their wages
 
I would be disappointed if he were to join a rival but I do think he may need to revive his career outside of Manchester.

Fans have mentioned that we've moved on equally or better players than Rashford In the past and, though that may be true, we also need to take into account that we had 1. A excellent team/squad 2. A more competent transfer team and, fundamentally, 3. We had one of the greatest managers of all time.
 
Ted Lasso said:
Haven't seen anything credible about it. I'll believe it if Arteta or Marcus speak openly about it, not tweets from click bait vultures.
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For PL suitors, special offer of £120m. For everybody else, £80m will do.
 
He won't leave. Simply because he's not ambitious enough.

But the fact is he didn't score 30 goals last year for nothing. Get Shaw back at LB and a decent consistent line up and he'll get 20+ next year.
 
United aren't selling to Arsenal. That would be a huge sign of weakness.
 
Special offer: Antony + Rashford. £100m for the pair. Grab it while you can.
 
Nori- said:
Special offer: Antony + Rashford. £100m for the pair. Grab it while you can.
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I'd take £50m easily.

Both had dreadful seasons. Both had two dreadful seasons out of the last 3!

Any money would go a long way for players who have been so bad, they're not getting minutes on the pitch or they're contributing nothing when they do play.

Get them both out!
 
With Havertz he was in a bad place at Chelsea. So Havertz came to Arsenal humbled ready to fall into line and do what the manager says. If Rashford were to come to Arsenal, he would come assuming he would be an automatic starter despite Trossard & Martinelli being options on the left. The bare minimum would be for Rashford to track ball all the time and help out his left back. To press from the front all the time. Simply put, maximum effort on and OFF the ball all the time.

For that reason, I dont think we are in for him. Rashford seems like the type of guy who thinks he is doing you a favour by playing for your club, and that working hard is beneath him. Plus there are his technical limitations in tight pockets, he only comes alive when he has space to run into. Other than that, he doesn't want to get involved. There is a good reason he was left out of the Euro's and Antony Gordon is on the plane.
 
ArtetaInInIn said:
With Havertz he was in a bad place at Chelsea. So Havertz came to Arsenal humbled ready to fall into line and do what the manager says. If Rashford were to come to Arsenal, he would come assuming he would be an automatic starter despite Trossard & Martinelli being options on the left. The bare minimum would be for Rashford to track ball all the time and help out his left back. To press from the front all the time. Simply put, maximum effort on and OFF the ball all the time.

For that reason, I dont think we are in for him. Rashford seems like the type of guy who thinks he is doing you a favour by playing for your club, and that working hard is beneath him. Plus there are his technical limitations in tight pockets, he only comes alive when he has space to run into. Other than that, he doesn't want to get involved. There is a good reason he was left out of the Euro's and Antony Gordon is on the plane.
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Pretty much my view too. Some of the clips of this guy this season have been shocking. Ie jogging around while the opponents WALK past him unchallenged, making zero efforts off the ball which is what Arteta hates. You can even see Odegaard our most creative player is the one who's running around the most. Martinelli eg even if he's been absent all game attacking wise you'll still see him tracking back to our box to win the ball. Rashford would never do this and never has shown he can. Once he got his bumper contract signed he's not cared. At all. For me not interested personally.
 
I don't think the Arsenal rumours make a lot of sense. All of Rashford's best attributes wouldn't be utilised enough in the way we play, while as others have said his weaker aspects (lack of tracking back, workrate) would be highlighted. I guess if Arteta saw him primarily as a number nine? But that's simply not his best position. He'll probably stay at United if nothing else because of the lack of serious potential destinations this summer.
 
It's interesting seeing the oppo/Arsenal view on him. Not many cared about how well he was tracking back (and he was) while he was banging goals in.....
 
afrocentricity said:
It's interesting seeing the oppo/Arsenal view on him. Not many cared about how well he was tracking back (and he was) while he was banging goals in.....
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That's the issue though. If you're not doing your primary purpose, people will look at your overall contribution. Defenders seem to want to turn people's attention away from his lack of productivity and also chastise people from looking at other areas of his game.

To the point where - if it's an apparent witch-hunt to look at things such has his productivity or overall contribution - he's paid £350k a week and has held down a place in the first team for much of the season for having lovely eyes and nice legs.
 
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