Not ambitious enough? He's at the biggest club in the country earning 250-300k a week.
DO you think he should be pushing for a move to Man City or Barcelona on 400k a week?
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Not ambitious enough? He's at the biggest club in the country earning 250-300k a week.
DO you think he should be pushing for a move to Man City or Barcelona on 400k a week?
Some forwards are specifically told to save their energy for attacking and just hold positions when defending. Instead of busting a guy doing Rooney style closing down.
Everyone assumes Rashy just doesn't fancy doing it all game. As if Salah and the likes always do it too.
It's masked when your team are winning.
He's hardly been desperate to kick on and prove he's value for that contract though. Archetypal player who gets huge contract, huge reputation and all the trappings and celebrity then seems to...stop. Many prefer not to see that due to his background and upbringing within the club. So we invent injuries, relationship issues, even diagnosis mental health problems - because we find it so hard to accept 'big time Charlie can't be arsed after big contract ' conclusion.
I don't think he's a player who thinks he has much else to prove.
because those kinds of forwards produce going forward, so much that you don’t want them wasting energy tracking back. As it is, Rashford neither produces going forward nor tracks back. No wonder he gets criticism.
He plays with Holjund. Do we think the instruction to Rashford is to conserve energy, and to Holjund to waste as much as he likes?
Do you think that's more likely than him just being a bit half-arsed?
Shaw can't stop him running into 3 opposition players and losing the ball 90%of the time.
I don't think Arsenal can afford his salary.
But Shaw would at least be up there with him providing an option. Dalot and Wan Bissaka have their strengths but not high up on the left.
I love how people think the shaw magically improves Rashford.
I get the arguments for overlapping etc but shaw doesn’t improve Rashfords innate laziness
I get the arguments for overlapping etc but shaw doesn’t improve Rashfords innate laziness
No, I think he’s just half arsed.
How do you know he's lazy?
What would you call it? Watching everyone else run / jog / walk past him?
Conserving energy ready for the next time he has to jog back.
Is Shaw coming back the new unlocking Pogba?
There are rumours that with bonuses he could be on as much as £375k per week so financially he doesn’t need to go anywhere, what he needs to do is have the summer off get fit, realise he’s 27 soon and before he knows it his career will be over.
What he needs now is 4 consistent years where he scores 75-80 PL goals and becomes the starting inverted left winger for the next World Cup when he’s 28.
Not sure if it's considered the same thing, but I feel Rashford appears so lazy due to having a sense of entitlement where he doesn't need to do the hard graft because he's the face of the club and has had some past glories in a United shirt.
Only the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Zlatan could get away with that when they're so prolific and lethal up top.
It's there for everyone to see. There are multiple clips over the internet showing how casual and lethargic he is when opponent has the ball. The opponent literally dribbled past him without having to do anything (think it was Barkely?)
If you choose to ignore what you're seeing then thats a different case altogether.
Seems like it.
I’m asking you a genuine question, if it’s not laziness what is it? Arrogance? Tactical?
as the other poster says it’s not hard to see in every match.
It is alittle wierd that Rashford, Martial and other players play well and seems to work hard right before their contract runs out. Get new contract and their form falls off a cliff.
Now we stuck with Rashford with a bloated wage and he cries everytime supporters wants higher standards on his performances and he gets triggered cause supporters questions him about when he go out partying in Ireland.
The picture that comes to mind when he cries is this.
You choose to ignore several things.
No manager has ever called him out for laziness unless I forgot about something. No manager has benched him for similar reasons either. You really think Rashford has played under 5 different managers now and all of them subordinated themselves for him whilst he was ignoring their instructions? This idea gets even less realistic when you remember ETH has benched Rashford himself for being a few minutes late to a team meeting.
It's also very often a tactical instruction for your best and furthest upward player to conserve energy and don't drop deep, as funny as you might find this. When you win the ball back and can launch a quick transition or counter attack, do you want Rashford to be next his fullback, helping him near his own box, or do you want him near the halfway line to receive a ball from Bruno?
And before you tell me Rashford isn't good enough to be a "luxury" player, as I've got that type of answer to this before: it's tied to tactics, not the player's level. Just because Rashford isn't Messi or even Mbappé, that doesn't mean he isn't allowed to do something the manager probably asks from him anyway. And he's still one of the best wingers in the Premier League purely because of his pace, power, ball-carrying and ball striking as well. What I just described can be applied to any level as well, from the Premier League all the way down to Sunday league football.
It's those tactics that tell him to look clueless every time he gets the ball at his feet that are killing him, poor love.
I don’t know, maybe, it’s by watching him stroll around the pitch half heartedly.
If he was told to conserve energy, would there not be dozens of examples of him going like balls in matches, applying all his conserved energy in matches to awesome affect?
Unless he's told to conserve energy but silly Billy Ten Hag forgets to tell him to take the reigns off so he conserves energy just to slowly walk off the pitch at the end of the game?
The conspiracy that exists around Rashford, and the excuses, are pitiful.
Unless he's told to conserve energy but silly Billy Ten Hag forgets to tell him to take the reigns off so he conserves energy just to slowly walk off the pitch at the end of the game?
The conspiracy that exists around Rashford, and the excuses, are pitiful.
Sorry I just don’t buy it. When he’s “on” like last season he wasn’t strolling around taking a nice Sunday walk, half as much as he’s been doing this season? When Ross Barkley walked past him with the ball, he barely made any effort to intercept. What’s he conserving his energy for? Pressing? He does less that everyone else.
Our team cannot afford to carry passengers and this season that’s exactly what he was
How do you explain this then? Newcastle, he's defending quite deep and just lets players waltz past him. This is just one example, I'm sure there's many more, but this game stuck out for me anyway. Luckily someone put a video together for it.
Further to your point, the replacement on the left (E.g. Garnacho) does track back which if it was tactical then he would be being asked not to, it's clearly a Rashford thing - The more concerning thing is why ETH was not dropping him and I worry about the extent of Rashfords power behind the scene.
If we don't get him out this summer then the club are clueless. Any way to remove him will do, loan, cheap sale, hell, I'd take a free transfer even to get good attitude out of the club. It's not like he cost us anything.
I don’t see how this is clueless when for example player will want to sit thru because previous management gave him big contract. It’s really not that easy to shift players (last summer should be good example of that)
Feels like wasted energy debating this one, I don't think he's going anywhere.
It would be tactical if he just stayed high.
He doesn't, he drops but 90% of the time he doesn't put in any effort to pressure the opposition. People have made the point of the Barkley clip, but that was just one of many examples. Most of the time he just gets brushed off and gives up, it's bizarre and infuriating and cannot be tactical.
I'm not so sure...I wouldn't 100% rule out a move to Arsenal, I just have that sneaky feeling about it.
Not in a million years would we sell him to Arsenal. It's just not something we'd ever do. Arsenal selling someone like Rashford to us? Yeah sure, never the other way around.
I doubt Arsenal comes for him, but if they do, we should sell.
It shouldn't even matter if he does well for them.
Rashford is one of our highest paid players and has been a discharge the last 3 years, with an exception of 6 good months.
It shouldn't even matter if he does well for them.
Rashford is one of our highest paid players and has been a discharge the last 3 years, with an exception of 6 good months.
That one's fine up until the 8 second mark where he admittedly could've done a bit more. Still, it's getting blown out of proportion.
What is there to explain? Yeah, there are some clips in there where he should've done more, but like I said, it's 99% likely that he's being told to conserve energy. And some of these clips are incredibly stupid anyways, especially the ones where he's left 1v1 against a Newcastle player on the wing and if he gets beaten after putting his leg in for a tackle, we get opened up. "Not defending close enough"
The person who put that video together has 0 clue about maintaining shape and what Rashford was supposed to do in most of those situations. Basically from 0:42 until like 1:15 it's complete bullshit and Rashford doesn't do anything wrong in those 30 seconds.