Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

I posted a very similar video to this v Luton when he let Ross Barkley amble around him.

Ive seen other examples too, it’s an attitude. He can’t even say Kate and tired, he was a sub… his job was to score if possible yes, but AT LEAST, sprint around and help the team.

His PR crap “give everything for United” is exactly that… PR.

Has to be sold.


Surely someone at the club should have shown him the Luton example, so to then just carry on with shit like this, embarrassing. Really hope PSG can take him off our hands, I really wouldn't be fussed at this point if he had run down his contract and was leaving on a free, at least then we would definitely be rid of him.
 


This circus can’t continue at the club. All this attitude off the field from this family with zero effort on the field to show for it. Get rid.


Has there been a player in recent memory that comes out on the defensive when criticised on a major platform as much as Rashford has?

Shearer broadcasts that he‘s not trying hard enough, let’s do a big interview!
Neville and Rio discuss concerns over his commitment, let’s do make snide digs at those two!

How have they (i.e the whole Rashford entourage including himself) made it this far in football being so thin skinned?

I can see the theory that his entourage mollycoddle him. It feels like ever since the free meals for children thing, they think he should be treated like Mother Teresa or Gandhi.
 
Salary maybe but realistically who on earth would pay a fee worth of 2-3 players for this uniterested bum? Not good enough for Real. Barca don’t have the money. Not a Bayern signing. Italian clubs would want a loan where they cover 0 % of the salary.

Leaves us with PSG? Atletico? There aren’t really many options unless he’s so fed up that he entertains Saudi.

Might be worth bringing Jose back for the rest of the season just to achieve this.
 
Has there been a player in recent memory that comes out on the defensive when criticised on a major platform as much as Rashford has?

Shearer broadcasts that he‘s not trying hard enough, let’s do a big interview!
Neville and Rio discuss concerns over his commitment, let’s do make snide digs at those two!

How have they (i.e the whole Rashford entourage including himself) made it this far in football being so thin skinned?

I can see the theory that his entourage mollycoddle him. It feels like ever since the free meals for children thing, they think he should be treated like Mother Teresa or Gandhi.

This is just one of the many things I hate about Rashford these days. He's all PR. I'm not even sure we'll sell him. I think the club values his marketability. He'll get a clean slate once ETH is fired.
 
Has there been a player in recent memory that comes out on the defensive when criticised on a major platform as much as Rashford has?

Shearer broadcasts that he‘s not trying hard enough, let’s do a big interview!
Neville and Rio discuss concerns over his commitment, let’s do make snide digs at those two!

How have they (i.e the whole Rashford entourage including himself) made it this far in football being so thin skinned?

I can see the theory that his entourage mollycoddle him. It feels like ever since the free meals for children thing, they think he should be treated like Mother Teresa or Gandhi.
That's pretty much true with most superstars. You don't stay in the entourage long if you're negative or too honest. That's why it usually falls on the family to be the guiding influence as more difficult to get rid.
 
I have been a backer of him but last night was pathetic. He wasn't even interested in making runs as a CF to get in position. Was just ambling around. So annoying to watch, especially an academy lad who you have put so much of your faith in.

Also begs the question, why would the manager not bring in Amad, a young player who has the enthusiasm and saved his bacon a couple a game back, instead of subbing in Rashford who is going to come in and sulk.
 
I’ve been one of his biggest supporters/ defenders and think in a good setup with a good team he’s thrive. Last night was a hard watch when he came on though. I was happy seeing him ready to come on, thought we could hit Chelsea on the break and get a fourth, but he did nothing. Absolutely nothing
 
This is just one of the many things I hate about Rashford these days. He's all PR. I'm not even sure we'll sell him. I think the club values his marketability. He'll get a clean slate once ETH is fired.
I think this is made bigger issue than it actually is United can easily make Someone else it's face without losing a beat once they do decide to move him on .
 
Last night during the time he was on the field he was disinterested in what was going on.

Another Pogba - sell him.
 
He should bring his nephew/niece to more games (like Liverpool in the FA Cup). At least he will be inspired to put in the effort to stop embarrassing them.
 
The lack of effort he is showing is really damning. He's out on the big stage every week, getting criticized for it. Yet nothing changes.
He must be showing something else in training, or perhaps the coaches are just fond of him (or afraid of his influence on the rest of the squad).

I guess there really aren't many options in the squad at the moment, but EtH can't he happy with what he is seeing and hearing.
As for getting rid, this might not be something EtH gets to decide. Whether or not he is the manager come summer transfers.
 
Has there been a player in recent memory that comes out on the defensive when criticised on a major platform as much as Rashford has?

Shearer broadcasts that he‘s not trying hard enough, let’s do a big interview!
Neville and Rio discuss concerns over his commitment, let’s do make snide digs at those two!

How have they (i.e the whole Rashford entourage including himself) made it this far in football being so thin skinned?

I can see the theory that his entourage mollycoddle him. It feels like ever since the free meals for children thing, they think he should be treated like Mother Teresa or Gandhi.
The irony that during that same podcast they talked of how they too came under fire at times but just rolled their sleeves up, sorted the basics out and put some effort in to return to form…and not have part of an entourage reach out to ask for mercy
 
I think this is made bigger issue than it actually is United can easily make Someone else it's face without losing a beat once they do decide to move him on .
Nobody has the PR pull of Rashford for the club. We offered Pogba 300k a week to stay when he was finished, he is our new Pogba. The last of the commerical contracts

i dont think the club will sell him and i dont think he would leave the spotlight of Manchester United, as he clearly likes fame
 
The lack of effort he is showing is really damning. He's out on the big stage every week, getting criticized for it. Yet nothing changes.
He must be showing something else in training, or perhaps the coaches are just fond of him (or afraid of his influence on the rest of the squad).

I guess there really aren't many options in the squad at the moment, but EtH can't he happy with what he is seeing and hearing.
As for getting rid, this might not be something EtH gets to decide. Whether or not he is the manager come summer transfers.

Even with a new coach or manager it will be the same, he'll give it a bit of effort for a while, the PR mill will be in overdrive, he'll score a few goals point to his head and eventually return to strolling around the place.

The lack of intensity in his performances is quite clear, trotting around like a show pony and only making a token run towards a player on the ball. In between you get the occasional burst, like last night when he ran back to clear a ball up the line. But 90% of the time he just looks like he's playing half arsed and totally disinterested.

You can forgive a lack of goals if there's a clear effort being made to work for the team, but he doesn't, he's not a team player on the ball or off it. Best thing is to just show him the door, it'll show the rest and any new players that the standard expected from a Utd player is higher than what he's being showing. And if you don't live up to it, you're gone.
 


You can't tell me this man cares :mad:

"Don't question my commitment to Manchester United"!?
 
I posted a very similar video to this v Luton when he let Ross Barkley amble around him.

Ive seen other examples too, it’s an attitude. He can’t even say Kate and tired, he was a sub… his job was to score if possible yes, but AT LEAST, sprint around and help the team.

His PR crap “give everything for United” is exactly that… PR.

Has to be sold.


Why are the other players tolerating this? Keane would have torn him a new one. Rooney as well.
 
Why are the other players tolerating this? Keane would have torn him a new one. Rooney as well.
No idea. I think we’ve got too many like this and the balance isn’t sufficient to force players to change. Too lackadaisical an environment. Average breeds average.

Sell him, Sancho, let Martials contract run down and send a message that attitude is vital to play for us. Replace with more hungry players and start changing the dressing room ethos

Odd that there was so much uproar about Ronaldo’s apparent lack of effort (but more goals) and Martials.

Wonder what the difference is with Rashford…. ……
 
I often have issues with Rashford's performancs, but there's nothing wrong with this specific clip. He's not going to press on his own when the rest of the team is in a low block. Even in the end he closes down once he realizes the ball handler isn't going to release it as quick as he thought.
 
G. Nevile saying he is worried about him on the Overlap. Was he insinuating Rashford could be suffering from some form of mental illness?
 
Will be a real test of this INEOS with how they handle him. I hope they are looking at ways to get him out of the club in the next window or two. Will probably be for his own good too.
 
I swear every person who runs these accounts has never actually played football before.
There is no way Rashford could do any meaningful pressing under that circumstances. Himself alone vs like 4 defenders + goalie. I believe even Odegaard, Rice, and Saka will struggle like the current United players if they play for ETH.
 
G. Nevile saying he is worried about him on the Overlap. Was he insinuating Rashford could be suffering from some form of mental illness?

I'd be shocked if that's what he meant. I think it was more like he was worried that Marcus has lost his motivation and simply stopped caring about football/the club and maybe that there are things outside the pitch that stops him from climbing out of the hole. Rio added on to it that maybe Marcus needs to get rid of the people around him just like he did when he moved to Leeds.
 
I'd be shocked if that's what he meant. I think it was more like he was worried that Marcus has lost his motivation and simply stopped caring about football/the club and maybe that there are things outside the pitch that stops him from climbing out of the hole. Rio added on to it that maybe Marcus needs to get rid of the people around him just like he did when he moved to Leeds.
Okay yeah that makes sense I guess but I just remember Gary repeatedly saying how worried he is about him. We don't know what people/players go through behind closed doors. Always remember what happened to Gary Speed & think moments like that are avoidable. I'm not saying Rashford is heading that way but just rather you don't know how lads are feeling & although we criticise performances there could be more to it.
 
Genuine question - was last season just a complete fluke for him?
As a neutral I don't think so. He is quality in the right system. His body language suggested his lost confidence in the head coach and he gave up already. I can understand fans are mad at him because he can't give up and collect his big pay cheque every week.

My guess is ETH will probably leave the club before Rashford, and Rashford will get another chance to prove himself under a new coach.