[Amar__]

He made few good passes last night that Ronaldo made mess of. If he had partner striker capable of holding the ball longer than half a second with defender on his back he would be much better player. Ronaldo is one of worst forwards we've had when it comes to holding the ball, minimal contact with defender and he is down, it's ridiculous how weak he can look in that department, like a 17 year old academy player.

Rashford is in poor form for a good period now, but not everything is down to him either. Greenwood isn't working well with Ronaldo, and Sancho either. If we want to build the team around Ronaldo then we should probably buy another forward line to accomadate him, someone like Benzema or Lewandowski because neither of our forwards are of that mould.

 

[DWelbz19]

Rashford and Bruno make it tempting to keep Pogba and Martial an extra window. They have massive flaws and lack heart but they don't break every other possession with poor decisions.

I very much agree. Martial and Pogba have huge problems, as you state, but if the two of them go we must replace adequately. Fernandes and Rashford haven’t shown “must be undisputed starter” form in a long time.

 

[roonster09]

Thing is...

He is very experienced, he has played as an attacking player for 5 years. He has like a total of 60 premier league goals. Many of them penalties.

Thing is, maybe he just isnt that good to begin with? Maybe he never was either. There are tons of players having good months. (Like Rashford) We had attacking issues for years.

Just maybe Rashford and Martial never was good enugh? Id like to see more of Cavani with Ronaldo. Switching with Greenwood when needed.

To me, Rasford and Martial has never convinced me as an Elite (United level) attacker. That needs consistency.

Ofcourse he is good enough, 60 PL goals isn't small number. He scored 57 league goals and only 6 from penalties. Since his debut season, only 12 players have scored more PL goals than Rashford, everyone of them are much older than Rashford.

In Goals + assists, only 10 players have more goals and assists than Rashford since his debut season, none of them are younger than him. Closest is Sterling who is 3 years older than Rashford.

In top 25 goal scorers, Rashford is the youngest, only G.Jesus is of same age.

#	Name	Age	Appearances​	Mins​	Goals​	Penalty goals​	Assists​	Open play goals​	Mins per open play goals​	Non Penalty Goals + assists​	Mins per NPG+A​
1​	Harry Kane​	28	210	18190	143	22	32	121	150	153	119
2​	Mohamed Salah​	29	161	13591	109	15	45	94	145	139	98
3​	Sadio Mané​	29	215	17075	92	0	40	92	186	132	129
4​	Raheem Sterling​	27	209	15825	82	2	51	80	198	131	121
5​	Jamie Vardy​	34	226	19046	122	26	34	96	198	130	147
6​	Heung-min Son​	29	210	14281	76	1	45	75	190	120	119
7​	Roberto Firmino​	30	219	16674	70	2	48	68	245	116	144
8​	Sergio Agüero​	33	155	11242	106	17	24	89	126	113	99
9​	Riyad Mahrez​	30	208	14577	64	8	48	56	260	104	140
10​	Romelu Lukaku​	28	151	12133	74	2	21	72	169	93	130
11​	Marcus Rashford​	24	188	12784	57	6	38	51	251	89	144
12​	Anthony Martial​	26	174	11726	56	2	31	54	217	85	138
13​	Dele Alli​	25	179	13310	51	3	37	48	277	85	157
14​	Michail Antonio​	31	173	12967	52	1	29	51	254	80	162
15​	Gabriel Jesus​	24	145	8477	52	2	30	50	170	80	106
16​	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang​	32	128	10306	68	9	16	59	175	75	137
17​	Callum Wilson​	29	163	12595	59	10	21	49	257	70	180
18​	Alexandre Lacazette​	30	139	9048	52	5	23	47	193	70	129
19​	Alexis Sánchez​	32	119	9101	47	3	25	44	207	69	132
20​	Eden Hazard​	30	138	10554	48	8	28	40	264	68	155
21​	Olivier Giroud​	35	158	7180	49	1	15	48	150	63	114
22​	Joshua King​	29	186	13317	53	13	17	40	333	57	234
23​	Chris Wood​	30	141	10571	49	3	7	46	230	53	199
24​	Danny Ings​	29	116	8112	47	7	11	40	203	51	159
25​	Troy Deeney​	33	165	12876	47	18	21	29	444	50	258

Before someone jumps up with usual "Goals assists lolzy", first read the post quoted.

 

[Bebestation]

Ofcourse he is good enough, 60 PL goals isn't small number. He scored 57 league goals and only 6 from penalties. Since his debut season, only 12 players have scored more PL goals than Rashford, everyone of them are much older than Rashford.

In Goals + assists, only 10 players have more goals and assists than Rashford since his debut season, none of them are younger than him. Closest is Sterling who is 3 years older than Rashford.

In top 25 goal scorers, Rashford is the youngest, only G.Jesus is of same age.

#	Name	Age	Appearances​	Mins​	Goals​	Penalty goals​	Assists​	Open play goals​	Mins per open play goals​	Non Penalty Goals + assists​	Mins per NPG+A​
1​	Harry Kane​	28	210	18190	143	22	32	121	150	153	119
2​	Mohamed Salah​	29	161	13591	109	15	45	94	145	139	98
3​	Sadio Mané​	29	215	17075	92	0	40	92	186	132	129
4​	Raheem Sterling​	27	209	15825	82	2	51	80	198	131	121
5​	Jamie Vardy​	34	226	19046	122	26	34	96	198	130	147
6​	Heung-min Son​	29	210	14281	76	1	45	75	190	120	119
7​	Roberto Firmino​	30	219	16674	70	2	48	68	245	116	144
8​	Sergio Agüero​	33	155	11242	106	17	24	89	126	113	99
9​	Riyad Mahrez​	30	208	14577	64	8	48	56	260	104	140
10​	Romelu Lukaku​	28	151	12133	74	2	21	72	169	93	130
11​	Marcus Rashford​	24	188	12784	57	6	38	51	251	89	144
12​	Anthony Martial​	26	174	11726	56	2	31	54	217	85	138
13​	Dele Alli​	25	179	13310	51	3	37	48	277	85	157
14​	Michail Antonio​	31	173	12967	52	1	29	51	254	80	162
15​	Gabriel Jesus​	24	145	8477	52	2	30	50	170	80	106
16​	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang​	32	128	10306	68	9	16	59	175	75	137
17​	Callum Wilson​	29	163	12595	59	10	21	49	257	70	180
18​	Alexandre Lacazette​	30	139	9048	52	5	23	47	193	70	129
19​	Alexis Sánchez​	32	119	9101	47	3	25	44	207	69	132
20​	Eden Hazard​	30	138	10554	48	8	28	40	264	68	155
21​	Olivier Giroud​	35	158	7180	49	1	15	48	150	63	114
22​	Joshua King​	29	186	13317	53	13	17	40	333	57	234
23​	Chris Wood​	30	141	10571	49	3	7	46	230	53	199
24​	Danny Ings​	29	116	8112	47	7	11	40	203	51	159
25​	Troy Deeney​	33	165	12876	47	18	21	29	444	50	258

Before someone jumps up with usual "Goals assists lolzy", first read the post quoted.

Damn. Great post.

Like an egg in their face.

 

[Lentwood]

I told you all four seasons ago, Rashford does not have the basic technical ability to play for Manchester United. It's a simple as that.

For me, he's not playing significantly worse than at any point in his Utd career, he's just ran out of excuses. In the past, whenever you bought up his terrible ball retention or shocking decision-making, people would respond with "playing out of position/stifled by the coach/playing with an injury" or whatever.

Rashford has now played under four full-time managers, has spent time on the left, on the right and through the centre, is now 100% fit and so people have to face the reality that Rashford is Sarr/Gray/Saint-Maxim level but just happened to have come through our Academy and played well in three or four games when it mattered, as an 18yo starting out his career.

Honestly, if we saw this player playing for Everton, Watford or Newcastle, would we be rushing to sign him? I'd say definitely not.

 

[Idxomer]

He isn't good enough as a guaranteed starter for a top club.

A good impact sub against tired legs but that's it.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Will remain one the first names on the teamsheet because absolutely no-one else is offering anything against and behind the opposition backline. It was exactly the same again today. Rashford was objectively poor with the ball, but nobody else even attempted what he at least did. He should have been put through one-on-one first half, but Sancho and then Ronaldo fluffed simply through balls with a wide margin for error. Second half, Ronaldo should have converted his shot in the six-yard box after a great run wide.

You can get frustrated with his decision making and quality of passing right now, but you’re blind if you cannot see that Ronaldo, Bruno, Sancho and even Greenwood do nothing to stretch the game. Without him everything is fairly narrow and in front of their defence.

Who cares if he’s breaking down 10 attacks very game. He’s a liability and it’s hurting us so much. We won’t go on a run of games with him in the side. Greenwood is twice the player and deserves the opportunity to start ahead of him.

 

[kouroux]

Even before all the charity work, he wasn't that different of a player so I don't get how people are linking the 2 things. He may simply not be that good. It can happen without blaming him for something else

 

[Bebestation]

I told you all four seasons ago, Rashford does not have the basic technical ability to play for Manchester United. It's a simple as that.

For me, he's not playing significantly worse than at any point in his Utd career, he's just ran out of excuses. In the past, whenever you bought up his terrible ball retention or shocking decision-making, people would respond with "playing out of position/stifled by the coach/playing with an injury" or whatever.

Rashford has now played under four full-time managers, has spent time on the left, on the right and through the centre, is now 100% fit and so people have to face the reality that Rashford is Sarr/Gray/Saint-Maxim level but just happened to have come through our Academy and played well in three or four games when it mattered, as an 18yo starting out his career.

Honestly, if we saw this player playing for Everton, Watford or Newcastle, would we be rushing to sign him? I'd say definitely not.

Phew.

I'm not saying that I can judge a player, but it seems like you think you can and so then I looked at your previous posts.

I might be kidding myself but I believe that the Athletico side could be on the verge of breaking up after what happened yesterday. I think Niguez, Koke and Greizmann would all be fantastic but we would need to throw the chequebook at them. I would be happy enough with Stones but I still think we need a reliable, experienced CB to help when we inevitably have 18 injuries by the end of October. If it were me though, I would be going to Spurs with a blank cheque for Alli and Kane.

 

[FattyFooty]

Ofcourse he is good enough, 60 PL goals isn't small number. He scored 57 league goals and only 6 from penalties. Since his debut season, only 12 players have scored more PL goals than Rashford, everyone of them are much older than Rashford.

In Goals + assists, only 10 players have more goals and assists than Rashford since his debut season, none of them are younger than him. Closest is Sterling who is 3 years older than Rashford.

In top 25 goal scorers, Rashford is the youngest, only G.Jesus is of same age.

#	Name	Age	Appearances​	Mins​	Goals​	Penalty goals​	Assists​	Open play goals​	Mins per open play goals​	Non Penalty Goals + assists​	Mins per NPG+A​
1​	Harry Kane​	28	210	18190	143	22	32	121	150	153	119
2​	Mohamed Salah​	29	161	13591	109	15	45	94	145	139	98
3​	Sadio Mané​	29	215	17075	92	0	40	92	186	132	129
4​	Raheem Sterling​	27	209	15825	82	2	51	80	198	131	121
5​	Jamie Vardy​	34	226	19046	122	26	34	96	198	130	147
6​	Heung-min Son​	29	210	14281	76	1	45	75	190	120	119
7​	Roberto Firmino​	30	219	16674	70	2	48	68	245	116	144
8​	Sergio Agüero​	33	155	11242	106	17	24	89	126	113	99
9​	Riyad Mahrez​	30	208	14577	64	8	48	56	260	104	140
10​	Romelu Lukaku​	28	151	12133	74	2	21	72	169	93	130
11​	Marcus Rashford​	24	188	12784	57	6	38	51	251	89	144
12​	Anthony Martial​	26	174	11726	56	2	31	54	217	85	138
13​	Dele Alli​	25	179	13310	51	3	37	48	277	85	157
14​	Michail Antonio​	31	173	12967	52	1	29	51	254	80	162
15​	Gabriel Jesus​	24	145	8477	52	2	30	50	170	80	106
16​	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang​	32	128	10306	68	9	16	59	175	75	137
17​	Callum Wilson​	29	163	12595	59	10	21	49	257	70	180
18​	Alexandre Lacazette​	30	139	9048	52	5	23	47	193	70	129
19​	Alexis Sánchez​	32	119	9101	47	3	25	44	207	69	132
20​	Eden Hazard​	30	138	10554	48	8	28	40	264	68	155
21​	Olivier Giroud​	35	158	7180	49	1	15	48	150	63	114
22​	Joshua King​	29	186	13317	53	13	17	40	333	57	234
23​	Chris Wood​	30	141	10571	49	3	7	46	230	53	199
24​	Danny Ings​	29	116	8112	47	7	11	40	203	51	159
25​	Troy Deeney​	33	165	12876	47	18	21	29	444	50	258

Before someone jumps up with usual "Goals assists lolzy", first read the post quoted.

Exactly. If you look at the players behind him you have players like Lacazette, Wilson, Giroud, King, Aubameyang. United should really aim higher. If you want to be the best, you need the very best. Not just good.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

It’s odd. Whilst he had a bad game, he was still easily our most dangerous attacker. Both Sancho and Greenwood were essentially non-existent. Hope he can find his old form again as he’s the potential x-factor in this team.

Most dangerous player for breaking down our own attacks. Are people being dense? Of course Sancho and greenwood didn’t get into the game because Rashford couldn’t fecking find a pass to them. He was only involved because Sancho can actually control a football. Shocking player!

 

[Bebestation]

Exactly. If you look at the players behind him you have players like Lacazette, Wilson, Giroud, King, Aubameyang. United should really aim higher. If you want to be the best, you need the very best. Not just good.

Absolutely insane, the guy is pretty much a LW and is outdoing central strikers at the lowest age of all of them except Gabriel jesus.

 

[roonster09]

Exactly. If you look at the players behind him you have players like Lacazette, Wilson, Giroud, King, Aubameyang. United should really aim higher. If you want to be the best, you need the very best. Not just good.

They are behind, how is it relevant?

Since 2019-20 season only 7 players are ahead of them, with barely anything between Rashford and 3rd placed Kane.

His overall play has been disappointing for a year now but his goals record is very good.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I told you all four seasons ago, Rashford does not have the basic technical ability to play for Manchester United. It's a simple as that.

For me, he's not playing significantly worse than at any point in his Utd career, he's just ran out of excuses. In the past, whenever you bought up his terrible ball retention or shocking decision-making, people would respond with "playing out of position/stifled by the coach/playing with an injury" or whatever.

Rashford has now played under four full-time managers, has spent time on the left, on the right and through the centre, is now 100% fit and so people have to face the reality that Rashford is Sarr/Gray/Saint-Maxim level but just happened to have come through our Academy and played well in three or four games when it mattered, as an 18yo starting out his career.

Honestly, if we saw this player playing for Everton, Watford or Newcastle, would we be rushing to sign him? I'd say definitely not.

Good post and very much agreed.

 

[Idxomer]

Absolutely insane, the guy is pretty much a LW and is outdoing central strikers at the lowest age of all of them except Gabriel jesus.

In that list, he isn't even outdoing Martial in goals or assists per minute who has been off form for 16 months.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

In that list, he isn't even outdoing Martial in goals or assists per minute who has been off form for 16 months.

Let’s be honest at their absolute bests, Martial is the better player.

 

[roonster09]

In that list, he isn't even outdoing Martial in goals or assists per minute who has been off form for 16 months.

Yeah but table is not for 16 months, Martial is also couple of years older too.

In the last 2 seasons, his numbers are among the best in the league with Salah as the clear winner and then bunch of players close.

 

[FattyFooty]

Absolutely insane, the guy is pretty much a LW and is outdoing central strikers at the lowest age of all of them except Gabriel jesus.

In football today you have plenty of players coming from the left or right.

Im not saying he is bad. And if you think putting a: ? To Rashfords contribution is insane. You cant really have seen much insane things.

Point is if you look at the other top clubs, if that is what we are trying to become then you have players like: Salah, Mane, Neymar, Son, Sterling, Coman, Son, Vinicious, Sane they all look way more dangerus when the are on the ball. And all of them are attackers that can come of the sides.

And yes Rashford is only 24. Still he have tons of experience. Even if you think Rashfords 51 open play goals is alot. You cant say hes performences have been good all over.

 

[FattyFooty]

They are behind, how is it relevant?

Since 2019-20 season only 7 players are ahead of them, with barely anything between Rashford and 3rd placed Kane.

His overall play has been disappointing for a year now but his goals record is very good.

Im not really sure about your list. It kinda not helping.

Yeah he is one of the youngest, but that list also shows he is one of those with the most games. Which makes him one of the most experienced players. On top of that the list shows he has like 245 min per open play goal.

Then you have a pretty comon good premier league player. If you look at Salahs, Manes, Agueros, Kanes then you have Elite premier league players. Some coming of the sides, some central.

 

[Amar__]

Ofcourse he is good enough, 60 PL goals isn't small number. He scored 57 league goals and only 6 from penalties. Since his debut season, only 12 players have scored more PL goals than Rashford, everyone of them are much older than Rashford.

In Goals + assists, only 10 players have more goals and assists than Rashford since his debut season, none of them are younger than him. Closest is Sterling who is 3 years older than Rashford.

In top 25 goal scorers, Rashford is the youngest, only G.Jesus is of same age.

#	Name	Age	Appearances​	Mins​	Goals​	Penalty goals​	Assists​	Open play goals​	Mins per open play goals​	Non Penalty Goals + assists​	Mins per NPG+A​
1​	Harry Kane​	28	210	18190	143	22	32	121	150	153	119
2​	Mohamed Salah​	29	161	13591	109	15	45	94	145	139	98
3​	Sadio Mané​	29	215	17075	92	0	40	92	186	132	129
4​	Raheem Sterling​	27	209	15825	82	2	51	80	198	131	121
5​	Jamie Vardy​	34	226	19046	122	26	34	96	198	130	147
6​	Heung-min Son​	29	210	14281	76	1	45	75	190	120	119
7​	Roberto Firmino​	30	219	16674	70	2	48	68	245	116	144
8​	Sergio Agüero​	33	155	11242	106	17	24	89	126	113	99
9​	Riyad Mahrez​	30	208	14577	64	8	48	56	260	104	140
10​	Romelu Lukaku​	28	151	12133	74	2	21	72	169	93	130
11​	Marcus Rashford​	24	188	12784	57	6	38	51	251	89	144
12​	Anthony Martial​	26	174	11726	56	2	31	54	217	85	138
13​	Dele Alli​	25	179	13310	51	3	37	48	277	85	157
14​	Michail Antonio​	31	173	12967	52	1	29	51	254	80	162
15​	Gabriel Jesus​	24	145	8477	52	2	30	50	170	80	106
16​	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang​	32	128	10306	68	9	16	59	175	75	137
17​	Callum Wilson​	29	163	12595	59	10	21	49	257	70	180
18​	Alexandre Lacazette​	30	139	9048	52	5	23	47	193	70	129
19​	Alexis Sánchez​	32	119	9101	47	3	25	44	207	69	132
20​	Eden Hazard​	30	138	10554	48	8	28	40	264	68	155
21​	Olivier Giroud​	35	158	7180	49	1	15	48	150	63	114
22​	Joshua King​	29	186	13317	53	13	17	40	333	57	234
23​	Chris Wood​	30	141	10571	49	3	7	46	230	53	199
24​	Danny Ings​	29	116	8112	47	7	11	40	203	51	159
25​	Troy Deeney​	33	165	12876	47	18	21	29	444	50	258

Before someone jumps up with usual "Goals assists lolzy", first read the post quoted.

Oops.

Good post!

 

[Bebestation]

In that list, he isn't even outdoing Martial in goals or assists per minute who has been off form for 16 months.

And what about Rashford? What has he done in the last 16 months?

Rashford was in immense form for Ole and consistency was shown against teams like City before his injury. It literally made him look like a different level player before and after his injury.

I studied medicine so I know how serious his damage can be, but even fecking that excuse - he has only restarted after that for 2 months, in and out with players like Sancho, Greenwood, Martial - and yet has only played 9 games (and games as a striker in partnership with Ronaldo which is so far away from both players benefit) and then people are linking it to the way he ended up playing with a back and shoulder Injury last season and saying he was always shit

That's a next level of bullshit.

Rashford is not doing great now but its 9 games, 9 games with some coming on as subs, some not even playing in his best positions, 9 games where the whole team is shit except arguably Ronaldo, 9 gamss where we were so shit that a manager got sacked; and he still has been involved 3 times in a goal - could have had more to be involved 4 times in 9 games just if Ronaldo didn't trip over the ball yesterday.

Sancho has had 13 games in the PL and has only been involved in 1 bloody goal and people are loving this 70+ million pound player for his ability to do nothing else but keep the ball at his feet.

The excuses are coming for Sancho already whilst people are questioning if RashFord is even good enough for United or Uniteds first team anymore.

Crazy stuff.

 

[G-MUFC]

Wasn't even the workrate yesterday. It was the constant back pasing in the first half . It was like five in a row at one point I think.

This! Rashford loves a pass backwards. The opposition must love seeing such a talented player constantly passing it sideways and backwards.

Ralf has said that he hates sidewards and backwards passing. Man Utd are the undisputed kings of this lazy style of football. He's got a job on his hands in changing these lazy habits.

 

[roonster09]

Im not really sure about your list. It kinda not helping.

Yeah he is one of the youngest, but that list also shows he is one of those with the most games. Which makes him one of the most experienced players. On top of that the list shows he has like 245 min per open play goal.

Then you have a pretty comon good premier league player. If you look at Salahs, Manes, Agueros, Kanes then you have Elite premier league players. Some coming of the sides, some central.

How is it not helping? Yeah he played many games as sub, that's why mins should be checked.

If the level for good enough is elite players like Salah, Aguero, Kane then he isn't as good as them. Doubt anyone would argue otherwise .

In the last 2 seasons his record is as good as Mane, Kane and any PL player except Salah.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

And what about Rashford? What has he done in the last 16 months?

Rashford was in immense form for Ole and consistency was shown against teams like City before his injury. It literally made him look like a different level player before and after his injury.

I studied medicine so I know how serious his damage can be, but even fecking that excuse - he has only restarted after that for 2 months, in and out with players like Sancho, Greenwood, Martial - and yet has only played 9 games (and games as a striker in partnership with Ronaldo which is so far away from both players benefit) and then people are linking it to the way he ended up playing with a back and shoulder Injury last season and saying he was always shit

That's a next level of bullshit.

Rashford is not doing great now but its 9 games, 9 games with some coming on as subs, some not even playing in his best positions, 9 games where the whole team is shit except arguably Ronaldo, 9 gamss where we were so shit that a manager got sacked; and he still has been involved 3 times in a goal - could have had more to be involved 4 times in 9 games just if Ronaldo didn't trip over the ball yesterday.

Sancho has had 13 games in the PL and has only been involved in 1 bloody goal and people are loving this 70+ million pound player for his ability to do nothing else but keep the ball at his feet.

The excuses are coming for Sancho already whilst people are questioning if RashFord is even good enough for United or Uniteds first team anymore.

Crazy stuff.

But with my eyes Sancho has been miles better than Rashford recently. Goal contributions aren’t the only thing that matter, particularly when attack after attack is breaking down at Rashfords feet.

 

[roonster09]

But with my eyes

Wow that's surprising.

 

[Bebestation]

In football today you have plenty of players coming from the left or right.

Im not saying he is bad. And if you think putting a: ? To Rashfords contribution is insane. You cant really have seen much insane things.

Point is if you look at the other top clubs, if that is what we are trying to become then you have players like: Salah, Mane, Neymar, Son, Sterling, Coman, Son, Vinicious, Sane they all look way more dangerus when the are on the ball. And all of them are attackers that can come of the sides.

And yes Rashford is only 24. Still he have tons of experience. Even if you think Rashfords 51 open play goals is alot. You cant say hes performences have been good all over.

But how can you possibly look down just about 9 matches of Rashford post injury and then think he was always shit just because of how he was playing through non stop with an injury of 3/4 of last season?

It's like people are saying "we told you he was always shit and it had nothing to do with injuries" -

Yet he was literally injured for such a long time and then people start moaning how he has played in just 9 games this season.

These 9 games - he has come on as a sub, has played as a striker instead of a LW in partnership with Ronaldo - both players who cant hold the ball up, playing in a team that has not had a single man in form except Ronaldo because we have started to play towards getting the best out of him - and we also sack one of our managers ---

Yet people are coming here complaining about Rashford and saying he was never good enough.

Insane.

Tell me why he has better stats than sancho anyway? A player who has played 4 more games and cost 70 mil pounds?

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Wow that's surprising.

I mean the amount you defend Rashford on here you probably don’t have time to actually watch the games. I’m not even sure what you are trying to defend? Did he play well for you yesterday?

 

[Bebestation]

But with my eyes Sancho has been miles better than Rashford recently. Goal contributions aren’t the only thing that matter, particularly when attack after attack is breaking down at Rashfords feet.

And that's your eyes, the same can be said about Ronaldo.

The way we play towards getting the best out of him isn't the best we can play - but why do we do it?

Because of Ronaldo's goal contribution.

No hold up play, no passing, the whole team turns to a cross field to Ronaldo, minimal pressing until we got Rangnick etc - does it matter? Not really because of his goal contribution.

Rashford made the best chance of the game yesterday, yet Sancho is getting the hugs and kisses for keeping it simple, not losing the ball and that's it.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

And that's your eyes, the same can be said about Ronaldo.

The way we play towards getting the best out of him isn't the best we can play - but why do we do it?

Because of Ronaldo's goal contribution.

No hold up play, no passing, the whole team turns to a cross field to Ronaldo, minimal pressing until Rangnick etc - does it matter? Not really because of his goal contribution.


Rashford made the best chance of the game yesterday, yet Sancho is getting the hugs and kisses for keeping it simple, not losing the ball and that's it.

If every player kept it simple and could keep the ball we would be a miles better football team. I don’t think Rashford is capable of playing that kind of football he’s just too technically deficient. He will still have his uses and games but for a top team he should be a squad player especially on this form.

 

[FattyFooty]

How is it not helping? Yeah he played many games as sub, that's why mins should be checked.

If the level for good enough is elite players like Salah, Aguero, Kane then he isn't as good as them. Doubt anyone would argue otherwise .

In the last 2 seasons his record is as good as Mane, Kane and any PL player except Salah.

So....

If we want to become Liverpool good then, we need to have players that can perform consistent and at a very high level like Liverpool has. And your list shows Liverpool has 3 attackers better stat wise.

So i say again, if we want to become on their level. Rashford is not good enugh. If we want to be in the 4-8 range of the league. He is good enugh. I want us to be in the title race, thats where united should be.

 

[yamo123x]

I dont understand why our fans are bashing Rashford so much?

He is an MBE, he is a modern day role model,has his own brand, and he occasionally plays a decent game of football !!

 

[Lentwood]

Phew.

I'm not saying that I can judge a player, but it seems like you think you can and so then I looked at your previous posts.

How far back have you had to trawl to find that? Must be 5 years old that post! And what point are you even trying to make with it...there's only really Dele Alli on that list who hasn't made a top player, and SAF called him "his biggest disappointment" recently. I don't think you can doubt his ability, just seems more interested in being a model/celebrity.

 

[talking robot]

I think there is a decent player in there somewhere. He’s just not showing it right now and therefore needs to be benched.

 

[roonster09]

I mean the amount you defend Rashford on here you probably don’t have time to actually watch the games. I’m not even sure what you are trying to defend? Did he play well for you yesterday?

Well that's rich coming from you, did you wipe your tears after all the crying about the "hate" Greenwood gets?

Well no, he didn't play well yesterday and I'm sure I said it in multiple threads that he was poor vs Norwich and had poor season. Maybe if you are expecting blind defense like you do in Greenwood thread then you will be disappointed.

Even last season I said he had average season as his performance wasn't good, I defended his goal contributions as someone said his goal contribution wasn't good enough (as usual there are few dumb guys who can't understand that, not about you btw, there are others). I have said many times that he should be benched and Greenwood deserves to start along with Sancho.

Ofcourse if someone says his goal contribution isn't good enough, I call that as nonsense. If someone says his performance isn't good enough and Greenwood, Sancho deserves chance, then I agree with that.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

Well that's rich coming from you, did you wipe your tears after all the crying about the "hate" Greenwood gets?

Well no, he didn't play well yesterday and I'm sure I said it in multiple threads that he was poor vs Norwich and had poor season. Maybe if you are expecting blind defense like you do in Greenwood thread then you will be disappointed.

Even last season I said he had average season as his performance wasn't good, I defended his goal contributions as someone said his goal contribution wasn't good enough (as usual there are few dumb guys who can't understand that, not about you btw, there are others). I have said many times that he should be benched and Greenwood deserves to start along with Sancho.

Ofcourse if someone says his goal contribution isn't good enough, I call that as nonsense. If someone says his performance isn't good enough and Greenwood, Sancho deserves chance, then I agree with that.

Well I think Greenwood has faced a lot of undue criticism this season after being largely our best attacker. He’s clearly better than Rashford right now which means he should be starting. That’s going to frustrate people rightly!

 

[roonster09]

So....

If we want to become Liverpool good then, we need to have players that can perform consistent and at a very high level like Liverpool has. And your list shows Liverpool has 3 attackers better stat wise.

So i say again, if we want to become on their level. Rashford is not good enugh. If we want to be in the 4-8 range of the league. He is good enugh. I want us to be in the title race, thats where united should be.

"Last 2 seasons his record is as good as Mane" did you miss this point?

Yes, we need elite attackers, if Rashford is not good enough then none of the ManUtd attackers are good enough as they contributed less than him in last 2 years.

Also I said this many times "Player x is not good enough if we want to win the league" is nonsense, no offense btw. How many said Henderson was league and CL winning midfielder before Klopp took over? How many said that about Salah, Mane when they were just signed for Liverpool? If only manager and team winning trophies had some correlation.

 

[roonster09]

Well I think Greenwood has faced a lot of undue criticism this season after being largely our best attacker. He’s clearly better than Rashford right now which means he should be starting. That’s going to frustrate people rightly!

Ofcourse you think Greenwood gets undue criticism while stinking up Rashford thread (every season)

Yes, he is in better form than Rashford this season and should be starting, not sure if anyone would argue otherwise.

 

[Idxomer]

There was an interesting bit of play around the 25th minute where he gets pulled from his shirt. It was nowhere near enough to go down but he completely stopped and started complaining to the ref and left the Norwich defender and Krul under no pressure at all.

@GifLord

 

[Vidyoyo]

There was an interesting bit of play around the 25th minute where he gets pulled from his shirt. It was nowhere near enough to go down but he completely stopped and started complaining to the ref and left the Norwich defender and Krul under no pressure at all.

@GifLord

That was pretty poor, the ball wasn't too far in front and a quick burst of pace would have meant he was through on goal.

 

[Jackal981]

Maybe he did anal with you, no wonder you are so butthurt

Can you point me where am I butthurt ? Stop it man you are just humiliating yourself.