It's true - I think if they were foreign they would have been sold ages ago. But we need a certain amount of English players in the team.
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It's true - I think if they were foreign they would have been sold ages ago. But we need a certain amount of English players in the team.
Rojo 160k per week, all of those <£80k per week
He isn't.
Doubt he's on £160k a week. He was a Lisbon before so he would have been earning relative peanuts and he was desperate to join United.
I don't see how he would have negotiated that contract.
I'm not a fan of Jones (I think it's time for him to move on as well), but if I had to choose one of them to keep it'd be Jones. He was actually quite good for the majority of last season, better than any full season Rojo has had. Rojo did have that three month period in 16/17 where he was very good (and even then he should have had two definite red cards), but otherwise he's been quite poor for us. He's also been almost as injury-prone.
If we sold both Rojo and Jones and bought in a central defender who we can actually rely on, that'd be a great bit of business. Whether that is Maguire, Alderweireld or somebody else.
He was on 70k per week when he joined us.
£16 million for Blind, £25 million for Rojo, £7 million for Johnstone and £10-£12 million for Darmian pays for Maguire and if we were to move say Jones on too which would probably bring in £15 million we’d have around a net spend of £40-£45 million this window after Fred and Dalot.
Don't tell me you actually believe that
Jones for 15 million
I know we fans are desperate to get rid of Jones, but he's English, still young and when fit a very good defender. If VVD can go for 75 mill, I'll ask atleast 35-40 million for Jones.
We are not a charity to give away players
Rojo and Darmian out to fund Maguire deal.
Have always appreciated the "hard man" attitude of Rojo, but his constant injuries and potential for tackles like the one in the WC would lead me to let him go first.
Jones for 15 million
I know we fans are desperate to get rid of Jones, but he's English, still young and when fit a very good defender. If VVD can go for 75 mill, I'll ask atleast 35-40 million for Jones.
We are not a charity to give away players
35-40 million for a who hardly improved since siging for United, a player with his injury record and his brainfart moments? No way.
If a 25 million offer came in for Jones i would accept it the same second
Love it how one post or one unreliable source spouts a wage or transfer fee it becomes gospel on here
No chance in hell Rojo is on £160k a week
Definitely the right move to sell Rojo if we're bringing in a new CB. The question is the fee. If Maguire is £65 million or so I guess Rojo is £40 million? The only way that particular transfer and fee makes sense for Maguire.
Good stuff. He would be first on my list to go, followed by either Jones or Lindelof.
An experienced England international who won a starting spot in the team last season. He's come up short in some big games for us, but if players who might do slightly better are going for £65 million (no guarantees) then Jones has to be worth over half of that. Then theres the English tax on top
Which manager in his right mind would pay£35-£40 million for sick note? We would be hard pressed to give him awayJones for 15 million
I know we fans are desperate to get rid of Jones, but he's English, still young and when fit a very good defender. If VVD can go for 75 mill, I'll ask atleast 35-40 million for Jones.
We are not a charity to give away players
So bad that I'd even prefer Shaw there.
As for at CB, I'd much rather Jones was sold first. Or perhaps Rojo can be sold for cash and Jones part-exchanged with Leicester for Maguire? Maybe wishful thinking.
Barcelona bought Vermaelen, we bought Hargreaves, etc.
Jones played the 2nd largest amount of matches for us at CB last season. 23 starts compared to Smalling's 28. 13th most out of our entire squad
Always like him, clearly loved being here but like many of our CB's, just when you think they have turned a corner either they are injured again or they deliver a massive feck up that cost us. Rojo has had more than his fair share of both.
I have a terrible feeling that Maguire is one of those "had a decent WC but I'm shit in real life" players.
I find this laughable in a way, we do NOT need any funds !!! We are just offloading unnecessary players especially to offload wages.
I like him, to an extend. A good guy to have on your side but sometimes makes the most reckless thing out of the blue.
The way people under value our own players is ridiculous.
Jones is just 26,yes he has injury problems but no big injuries like ACL Tear which could be career ending. As I said in my previous post, if Miceal Keane can be sold for 30 million pounds and if Yerry Mina after one good to OK WC is worth 30 million pounds, why shouldn't Jones be valued at 35-40 million.
Him being youngish, homegrown and english alone must add 5-10 million to his value. And when fit, he's probably our second or third best defender.
If he was fit and injury fee, he would cost probably 50 million
Here's how much I value our CBs -
Rojo : 25-30 mill
Jones : 35-40 mill
Smalling : 40-50 mill
Lindelof : 40 million
Jones is just 26,yes he has injury problems but no big injuries like ACL Tear which could be career ending. As I said in my previous post, if Miceal Keane can be sold for 30 million pounds and if Yerry Mina after one good to OK WC is worth 30 million pounds, why shouldn't Jones be valued at 35-40 million.
Him being youngish, homegrown and english alone must add 5-10 million to his value. And when fit, he's probably our second or third best defender.
If he was fit and injury fee, he would cost probably 50 million
Here's how much I value our CBs -
Rojo : 25-30 mill
Jones : 35-40 mill
Smalling : 40-50 mill
Lindelof : 40 million
Absolutely no club on this planet will pay £35-40m for Phil Jones. If your prices were at all realistic we'd have flogged Rojo and Jones and bought another CB by now and have change left over.
Your feeling is wrong.
Thought he's had a very good season for Leicester tbh.
The trouble is that you never see that hardwork and experience on the pitch. He is not very good in defending
Do you think Jones i worse than Micheal Keane? Or is he worse than Mina?
Also if Van Djik is worth 75 million, why shouldn't Smalling be valued at 50 million or 2/3 of the price?
Van Djik had zero experience at the top most level when he was bought, he's clearly not WC and while better than Smalling in a few aspects, the difference is not huge or big enough to be valued 25 million above Smalling's valuation
good luck trying to sell a player who is on premium wages and other clubs would have break their pay structure to accomodate Jones, all this while demanding 40m. The other clubs would wait it out and get Jones on a free.Jones for 15 million
I know we fans are desperate to get rid of Jones, but he's English, still young and when fit a very good defender. If VVD can go for 75 mill, I'll ask atleast 35-40 million for Jones.
We are not a charity to give away players
Oh yeah, we are total mugs to just wait it out and let that happen. How many players have left us after running their contact out?
Also, how much do you value Jones at if 35 million is too much?
I am not a big fan of both. I mean, I was the brains behind calling then Hodor (big guy but dumb) and Bran (injury prone). Yet even I can say that they are better then this accident waiting to happen
I absolutely love the nutter, but he is a liability and we have too many CB-s, so yes to this.
While you at the table, talk a bit about Neves, please. Another season with Wolves and in the top flight is best for him, but he could be ready for the move next season.
While you at the table, talk a bit about Neves, please. Another season with Wolves and in the top flight is best for him, but he could be ready for the move next season.
Selling Jones for £40m would be the greatest bit of transfer business in United's history.
Why do you think we are, after years of letting players go for very little, finally digging in our heels and demanding good fees?
We aren't bankrolled by billionaires. We only have a certain amount of money put aside for transfers, and whatever funds we get from selling players will get added to that budget. Yes obviously that budget is very high, but in a time where every decent player requires a huge transfer fee it can only go so far. Getting an extra 30-40m from sales like that can be the difference between getting an extra player in, or perhaps the difference between getting our first choice in a position instead of a second or third choice.
Did you watch him in full matches as much as you saw Jones play? He made a bunch of defensive mistakes.
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Why would be sell ourselves short and rob ourselves by selling Jones for anything likes than 50m?? He's basically just a mature John Stones when you really think about it!
I'm pretty sure Leicester fans would be saying the same about selling Maguire who they bought for 12 million a year ago for 65 million
Times have changed, with the amount of money the PL clubs have, the cost of an English, home grown player has increased many fold.
The period prior to his injury he was very good at centre back. So there was definitely a sign of settling. But it could have been bit like Smalling. With the right protection around Smalling he looks much better than he is.
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