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We got Pogba and everyone was after him as well, I don't see why Woodie and Jose can't pull off a signing like this.
 
Verratti Fabinho and Pogba would win the EPL for us.
Nah, more players that score would do that. What have we learned this season? In the games we drew and should have won, we created a bucketful of chances, so there is nothing wrong with our creativity. With someone in our team to convert and turn a few of those draws into wins, we'd be up there.
 
I think we're seeing a more restrained RM with Zidane as manager. They're not outspending everyone any more, and they're playing players like Casemiro and Kovacic. It's working for them too.
Didn't they have a transfer ban though since Zidane has become their manager?

Actually they went after Pogba last summer, so it was over. But if we didn't offer stupid amounts, Pogba would more than likely have gone there, so what is this about more restraint?
 
Does he have a dodgy injury record? Unlikely to even go for him if he does, with Jose in charge.
 
Not for 100m+ though. Whoever signs Verratti won't be doing a lot of other business. So priorities have to be about positions which need reinforcing the most. Real have the best midfield in world football, so I can't see them wasting their entire transfer budget on one injury prone midfielder. They seem to be moving away from the Galáctico policy under Zidane anyway.

I think we're seeing a more restrained RM with Zidane as manager. They're not outspending everyone any more, and they're playing players like Casemiro and Kovacic (as well as Isco, who's started lots more than you'd expect). It's working for them too.
Wasn't being entirely serious bro. I agree he'd cost too much for real to buy him given the midfield they already have but they don't really play by the sensible rulebook when it comes to transfers. No guarantee Zidane is the manager next year anyways. Simply depends upon whether Perez fancies him.
 
Nah, more players that score would do that. What have we learned this season? In the games we drew and should have won, we created a bucketful of chances, so there is nothing wrong with our creativity. With someone in our team to convert and turn a few of those draws into wins, we'd be up there.

Add Griezmann to the equation and we are good to go :)
 
Didn't they have a transfer ban though since Zidane has become their manager?

Actually they went after Pogba last summer, so it was over. But if we didn't offer stupid amounts, Pogba would more than likely have gone there, so what is this about more restraint?
We'll have to wait and see what they do this summer, and they'll spend a lot when it's time to replace Ronaldo, but because of those upcoming expenditures, I think they're more likely to try and sign someone like Mbappe for a similar fee.
 
Bayern make the most sense, they are losing Alonso and Lahm and will want to make a statement in the summer. Not that I think it will happen but out of the potential candidates I think they're the most likely.
 
Not 100% sure about this one. Incredible player, no doubt, and one of my favorites in midfield with Thiago, but we could build a better structure with Weigl (who's realistically not going to cost more than him and is a better fit at the base with Herrera retaining his right midfield role). Verratti is quite small (not just in terms of height, but stoutness) by contemporary Premier League standards, and even though he's scrappy - that playing style could lead to injury issues in the Premier League over the medium to long term. More suited to La Liga or Serie A (Juventus would be perfect for him, actually).

He's missed quite a few games for Paris Saint-Germain over the last couple seasons, too:

16/17 Strain Jan 26, 2017 Feb 6, 2017 11 days 3
16/17 Minor wound Nov 28, 2016 Dec 5, 2016 7 days 2
16/17 Minor wound Sep 19, 2016 Sep 26, 2016 7 days 2
15/16 Groin operation May 9, 2016 Jul 28, 2016 80 days 3
15/16 Groin strain Feb 22, 2016 Apr 21, 2016 59 days 12
15/16 Minor wound Feb 1, 2016 Feb 11, 2016 10 days 3
15/16 Minor wound Jan 18, 2016 Jan 28, 2016 10 days 3
15/16 Wound Nov 5, 2015 Dec 10, 2015 35 days 7
15/16 Minor wound Oct 15, 2015 Oct 19, 2015 4 days 1
15/16 Minor wound Aug 20, 2015 Aug 24, 2015 4 days 1

http://www.transfermarkt.com/marco-verratti/verletzungen/spieler/102558
 
Nah, more players that score would do that. What have we learned this season? In the games we drew and should have won, we created a bucketful of chances, so there is nothing wrong with our creativity. With someone in our team to convert and turn a few of those draws into wins, we'd be up there.

When have United ever been able to go toe to toe with another big side and dominate possession properly, like boss the game.

Verratti is the type of player who bosses midfield games. He's the heir to Xavi.

He's my modern day midfield obssession so I am probably abit biased when it comes to him, but I'd move heaven and earth to sign him. I also think he's the perfect partner to Pogba.. the guy who would cover Paul's flaws and let him do what he is best at.
 
Bayern make the most sense, they are losing Alonso and Lahm and will want to make a statement in the summer. Not that I think it will happen but out of the potential candidates I think they're the most likely.

Especially since Ancelotti seems a big fan of his. He also tried to sign him during his tenure at Madrid.
 
When have United ever been able to go toe to toe with another big side and dominate possession properly, like boss the game.
Shame he couldn't put his foot on the ball and dictate the game in barca then. That isn't a dig on him btw, cause I actually think he's a wonderful player as my previous posts over the years on him have shown. My point was that he failed to do what you said he can do in a big game against a big team.
 
Bayern make the most sense, they are losing Alonso and Lahm and will want to make a statement in the summer. Not that I think it will happen but out of the potential candidates I think they're the most likely.
Bayern simply do not spend money to that level that's needed. . I keep seeing Bayern being linked with Sanchez etc. It makes no sense because they don't have to spend big.
 
Shame he couldn't put his foot on the ball and dictate the game in barca then. That isn't a dig on him btw, cause I actually think he's a wonderful player as my previous posts over the years on him have shown. My point was that he failed to do what you said he can do in a big game against a big team.

He did it in the first leg did he not? one bad game doesn't negate the fact in most big games he has been very impressive. It also doesn't take into account the fact that experience will hopefully make him even hungrier and determined to ensure he plays for a side which isn't as weak mentally.. he's young and there is alot of growth in him still.
 
I can see him staying where he is. To be honest, for what he'd cost, and how often he'd be fit, I think we'd be better looking elsewhere. Herrera's had a great year, evolving his game, and Pogba has all the attributes to be the best midfielder in the league next season. We need someone who can dictate the tempo, and he can do that better than most, but he's not the only one.

Slightly different player, but if we are going to spend big money on a midfielder again, I'd honestly rather we went in big for Thiago.
 
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I thought they were skint?

They are, with wages and whatnot, and probably won't be able to make this happen unless PSG is accommodating. I meant in football terms though. I think he's perfectly suited to their midfield, whereas Real don't need him.
I am tired of everyone saying Barcelona are skint and all that Jazz. I am not a finance buff and I don't know all their expenditure, but this looks promising.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...s-record-revenue-of-750-million/#3002a6a5b1e6

Spanish soccer giant FC Barcelona reported record revenue for the 2015-16 season of €679 million or $750 million. It is the highest annual total in the history of sports and up 12% over the previous year. The club projected revenue before the season of €633 million, but blew past the forecast as the team won the La Liga title and Copa del Ray. The tally puts the world’s third most valuable sports franchise at $3.55 billion on pace to meet its target revenue of €1 billion by 2021

It is about to soar thanks to a new kit deal with Nike NKE -6.10% inked this year. The new deal is expected to bring in as much as $170 million a year

Sponsors love Barcelona in part because of its role as the top sports team on social media. The club had 148 million followers across Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as of last month thanks to the star power of players like Lionel Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez. Messi and Neymar rank as the most popular athletes in the world on social media behind only Cristiano Ronaldo


But indeed, they are probably skint and won't be able to sign another player for 2.5 seasons, or something.........
 
Bayern simply do not spend money to that level that's needed. . I keep seeing Bayern being linked with Sanchez etc. It makes no sense because they don't have to spend big.

They do, Renato Sanches for example
 
Shame he couldn't put his foot on the ball and dictate the game in barca then. That isn't a dig on him btw, cause I actually think he's a wonderful player as my previous posts over the years on him have shown. My point was that he failed to do what you said he can do in a big game against a big team.

That's definitely a dig on him because basically what you were saying is that he couldn't control the game against Barca in camp nou means he's not that top player who can control the game in a big game.

People always said Carrick couldn't control a game against big team because he failed to do it against Busquest, Xavi Iniesta all together by himself. But he played with poor players around him against them. If Veratti had Pogba and Herrera, it might be a different story. Even Alonso couldn't handle Barcelona's midfield and lost 5-0.

I think we need equally both "more players that can score goals" and "midfield who can control the game". And also a top class centre back.
 
That's definitely a dig on him because basically what you were saying is that he couldn't control the game against Barca in camp nou means he's not that top player who can control the game in a big game.

People always said Carrick couldn't control a game against big team because he failed to do it against Busquest, Xavi Iniesta all together by himself. But he played with poor players around him against them. If Veratti had Pogba and Herrera, it might be a different story. Even Alonso couldn't handle Barcelona's midfield and lost 5-0.

I think we need equally both "more players that can score goals" and "midfield who can control the game". And also a top class centre back.
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Veratti could cost a lot of money and I can't see us break the bank twice in one summer transfer if we want to spend a lot of money on Griezmann this summer.
 
Add ons to 60m isnt really cheap. But he'd be worth it then though.
If I remember correctly media reported something about 35m plus another 25m (5m per 25 matches played) plus potentially additional 20m in case he makes it into FIFA world eleven or the top 3 of ballon d'or.
 
I'd say 60 million max then, cant see him becoming such a good player.
Won't disagree on that one. But returning to the topic, today I read that Bayern Munich's willingness to push their "record transfer sum" has been around 11-12% of their yearly revenue.
* Roy Makaay (2003) 19.75m / revenue 2002/2003 163m ~ 12%
* Mario Gomez (2009) 30m / revenue 2008/2009 268.7m ~ 11%
* Javi Martinez (2012) 40m / revenue 2011/2012 332.2m ~ 12%
* Renato Sanches (2016) 60m / revenue 2015/2016 587.7m ~10%

So if we assume that the revenue for 2016/2017 will be around 600m again, a transfer sum of 70m would still be 12% of the revenue. I still don't think it's very likely that Munich would go All-In for Verratti, but I wouldn't rule it out completely either.
 
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I am tired of everyone saying Barcelona are skint and all that Jazz. I am not a finance buff and I don't know all their expenditure, but this looks promising.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...s-record-revenue-of-750-million/#3002a6a5b1e6

Spanish soccer giant FC Barcelona reported record revenue for the 2015-16 season of €679 million or $750 million. It is the highest annual total in the history of sports and up 12% over the previous year. The club projected revenue before the season of €633 million, but blew past the forecast as the team won the La Liga title and Copa del Ray. The tally puts the world’s third most valuable sports franchise at $3.55 billion on pace to meet its target revenue of €1 billion by 2021

It is about to soar thanks to a new kit deal with Nike NKE -6.10% inked this year. The new deal is expected to bring in as much as $170 million a year

Sponsors love Barcelona in part because of its role as the top sports team on social media. The club had 148 million followers across Facebook, Instagram and Twitter as of last month thanks to the star power of players like Lionel Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez. Messi and Neymar rank as the most popular athletes in the world on social media behind only Cristiano Ronaldo


But indeed, they are probably skint and won't be able to sign another player for 2.5 seasons, or something.........
That is not correct though (or I am missing something there). From Deloitte Money league, we are the richest club in football with revenues (for the previous season) of 689m euros, Barca being second having 'only' 620.2m euros, and Madrid being third with 620.1m euros. Madrid lead the table for 11 years but this time went to third place.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pag.../articles/deloitte-football-money-league.html

Obviously they are not skint, but we are in a better financial position because we have a higher revenue (the difference will be lower this year because of lack of UCL), and more importantly our wage is quite lower than theirs.
 
That is not correct though (or I am missing something there). From Deloitte Money league, we are the richest club in football with revenues (for the previous season) of 689m euros, Barca being second having 'only' 620.2m euros, and Madrid being third with 620.1m euros. Madrid lead the table for 11 years but this time went to third place.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pag.../articles/deloitte-football-money-league.html

Obviously they are not skint, but we are in a better financial position because we have a higher revenue (the difference will be lower this year because of lack of UCL), and more importantly our wage is quite lower than theirs.
I believe you. it is just people keep saying they are brassic, like they won't be in the running for signing players as they can't afford to dip into the market because of their wage bill or some shit.
 
We got Pogba and everyone was after him as well, I don't see why Woodie and Jose can't pull off a signing like this.

They weren't, only team properly interested was Madrid and they didn't want to pay the cash Juve wanted. Completely different as clubs would be willing to match our offers for Veratti. Secondly, he wants to leave PSG as he wants a shot at winning the CL, it's looking likely we may not even play in the Champions League again.
 
They weren't, only team properly interested was Madrid

How are you so sure?

It was well documented that Barca, Madrid, Chelsea and Man City were all very interested in Pogba. Pogba has since made it clear he wanted to come 'home' to United, so I'm sure any interested parties got the message.
 
How are you so sure?

It was well documented that Barca, Madrid, Chelsea and Man City were all very interested in Pogba. Pogba has since made it clear he wanted to come 'home' to United, so I'm sure any interested parties got the message.

Because all of those teams distanced themselves? No bid was documented by any proper sources for any of them. I believe Madrid were genuinely interested as it was documented, but it was also suggested they didn't want to pay the cash, so eh. Barca and Citeh were interested really early on but turned away due to the prices being touted iirc. Besides, even if other teams were competing for Pogba, it's still different to Veratti as Veratti doesn't give a shit about us, has no emotional attachment.
 
Because all of those teams distanced themselves? No bid was documented by any proper sources for any of them. Barca and Citeh were interested really early on but turned away due to the prices being touted iirc. Besides, even if other teams were competing for Pogba, it's still different to Veratti as Veratti doesn't give a shit about us, has no emotional attachment.

All them teams were interested, but they couldn't afford him/couldn't compete with United. It's that simple really. Being uninterested and not being able to compete is two very different things.
 
All them teams were interested, but they couldn't afford him/couldn't compete with United. It's that simple really. Being uninterested and not being able to compete is two very different things.

Do you have any proof of that? It's all speculation and apart from us, Madrid seemed to be the only club making noise.
 
The reason we get him is because he thinks Ibra is his daddy. Also lure of playing with Pogba under jose mourinho, i'd say we and chelsea would have a chance in getting him if he wanted to move to the PL. I would put us ahead of them, in world football spanish clubs would come in but i think we would easily out muscle everyone of them if it came down to money and bidding for him.l
 
I remember in some presentation Pogba thanked the 'other clubs' for showing interest in him, so that indicates there was more than just Madrid.

Is possible but I barely heard any murmurs about any clubs apart from us and Madrid.
 
30 odd million?
  1. An initial transfer fee of €35M as well as €45M in performance-based incentives over the next five years
  2. €5M per season should Sanches accrue 25 appearances
  3. €20M in incentives for FIFA Ballon d'Or nominations (the final three and not the shortlist) and FIFA World Best 11 nominations
http://www.bavarianfootballworks.co...ancial-impact-renato-sanches-signing-is-small

So he's not flop & a bit above average to rake up 25 apprearances per season & cost Bayern 60 mil. Already on 21 appearance this season & not very impressive as far as I know. So this is 40 mil player in the first season. That's already expensive. Making FIFA World Best 11 nominations, then Bayern got their money back. Only in caseit's Ballon d'Or final three & it's a bargain.

Back to Veratti. Unless there is a clause in Veratti contract that let him force a move, it's hard to persuade PSG. They don't really need to sell, and they appreciate his talent more than any fee this day since the fee is getting too crazy that selling your player without proper replacement would mean you lose out more in long term.
 
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