To be fair to Beckenbauer, they played him half of Rummenigge's statement and made it sound totally different to what Rummenigge actually said, just to get another 'Bayern clearly work on signing Reus' statement out of him. Thought it was ridiculous from all involved, Rummenigge's questionable statement, shit journalism and Beckenbauer being his clueless, naive, won't stop talking self. Job well done and we're still 2 weeks away from the game. They should focus on Gladbach vs Bayern on Sunday, that's way more interesting and has so much history worth exploring, even though we don't want to sign anyone from that team at the moment.
Marco Reus
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Chelsea would be a pretty good fit imo. Fast, direct player, who is available for a bargain fee. I can see Mourinho signing him. But Bayern is also favorite for me, it really depends on what Reus wants. If he wants a new challenge in a new league he will go abroad, if he wants to stay in the Bundesliga he will go to Bayern. The "local lad" thing isn't really a big thing in this case imo. He joined Dortmund because of playtime and the chance to win titles, it's his third year there. If he don't see the chance to win things anymore, he won't have a problem to join them. Hummels looks like the one for me who will stay loyal. Reus and Gündogan before his injury (and when he gets back to his best) will leave.
Would love to see him here but I'm not sure where we could fit him in currently.
If he's watching the Champions League this season then it would be hard to see him choosing anyone other than Bayern or Real Madrid, they are really impressing.
If he's watching the Champions League this season then it would be hard to see him choosing anyone other than Bayern or Real Madrid, they are really impressing.
As good as he is, he could end up being a rotation player at Bayern and Real though. Same with Barca. All three teams already have an abundance of worldclass attackers. It's much easier to fit him in as a regular starter at Chelsea, City or United and I can see Reus prefering that.
On the left side of attack maybe.
That's the thing. You cannot really be sure that he'd be a better option out wide than Rodriguez and Bale, likewise he'd be very unlikely to win a place in Barcelona's first team ahead of Suarez, Neymar or Messi (it's absurd to even think they'd drop Messi) plus Barcelona cannot conduct any transfers until 2016 anyway. He'd have a good shot at playing for you though, I believe, since you're bound to miss a direct pacey player once Robben goes, and Robben will be 31 early next year (still cannot believe that, time flies), Ribery can't have that much left at this level either - then again both should still be around for the next two seasons and by the time they'll be likely to depart Reus will have turned 28.
I agree that England is his best shot, and he'd probably fit City the best.
I still think that role suits Di Maria best myself. He's flexible though and could prob do a better job than Rooney in a central role too.
I think some papers mentioned that Real called us and other clubs with a price tag of 50 million euros for di Maria. He is in his prime, would demand big playing time and we have Robben,Ribery,Götze and Müller for the wide areas.
Specially Götze is a project we have and will invest in. Draxler comes to mind as a new guy there. Really young, would take a place on the bench.
Much talk about a transfer to us since last year. Wouldnt be surprised if our board has him already wrapped up.
Reus for that price is too tempting not to try some moves.
End of all; I think our club was working on some projects when we got offered di Maria and said no because of that.
True.
I think he would be a great fit at chelsea
------Reuss-----Costa------Hazard-------
would be link when they had duff and robben - only better plus they would have fabregas in midfield
Bale for me too but for value purposes I'd go with Reus, plus he's not exactly way better than him.
Reus 35 million
Bale 85 million
Would be incredible to have him. There's absolutely a space for him. We're crying out for a left wide man in the game against Chelsea, and in general.
Would allow Di Maria to play centrally.
Would allow Di Maria to play centrally.
The only downside to this line-up is probably that both Reus and Hazard aren't at their best on the right wing.
4-3-3
--------- DDG ---------
Rafael - CB - CB - Shaw
--------- Blind --------
--- Herrera - Di Maria --
Januzaj - Rooney - Reus
Feck RVP, Falcao and Mata
4-3-3
--------- DDG ---------
Rafael - CB - CB - Shaw
--------- Blind --------
--- Herrera - Di Maria --
Januzaj - Rooney - Reus
Feck RVP, Falcao and Mata
You can feck the other two, though!
You can feck the other two, though!
Fair enough.. Falcao can come on as a sub! :P
All the top PL teams will be in for him as will Bayern.
No clue where he will go but I think Chelski, United or Bayern.
No clue where he will go but I think Chelski, United or Bayern.
City obviously, they are the only one who like really need him, they need a proper winger.
City may need him the most, but I doubt that's his #1 destination. Real Madrid, Chelsea and Bayern should be among his favourites.
Dont think Real Madrid are even interested, but yeah you never know with Real, Chelsea is a fair shout but cant see him going to Bayern, especially because what he has said in the past and him rejecting them earlier in his career.
If you hint towards the 'Reus quote' that he will never join Bayern and doesn't care about money, that one was invented by a twitter account and then picked up by parts of the British media. His initial rejection of Bayern in 2011, with Ribéry and Robben at their prime on his position, was imo also not mainly a decision against Bayern München, but for his best possible next carreer step at Borussia Dortmund.
If Real Madrid shows interest, you never know with their Galactico policy, then they are the absolute favourites, but Bayern and Chelsea are imo the next best alternatives. Afterwards Manchester City, United and PSG on pretty much one level.
Didnt Reus play as a 10 at that moment (Borussia Monchengladbach), he could become their next no 10. , but wasnt he disappointed in Mario for leaving to Bayern Munich?
I think that you're confusing him with Hummels.
Reus indeed played as a #10 / SS hybrid for Borussia Mönchengladbach, but he was always regarded as a very versatile offensive player who can play on all three positions in attacking midfield. The decision to turn Bayern München down was first and foremost a carreer-choice, which can be seen by the mere existence of his € 25M exit-clause in 2015.
I don't see how any of this would stand in the way of a possible Marco Reus transfer, of course he was disappointed about Götze's departure. Götze is his friend, a major reason why he joined BVB in the first place and a world-class player who would have guaranteed a successful future.
There's obviously a very real possibility that Marco Reus will join the likes of Real Madrid, Chelsea FC or even a club from Manchester, but I don't see anything substantial in his behaviour or statements that would generally rule out a transfer to Bayern München.
I think Real will go in for him simply cuz he will be a steal with that clause.
Real won't bother, the price is too low.
4-3-3
--------- DDG ---------
Rafael - CB - CB - Shaw
--------- Blind --------
--- Herrera - Di Maria --
Januzaj - Rooney - Reus
Feck RVP, Falcao and Mata
This is the basis of most of this forum. The fact the new toys have come and the old ones are thrown.
Tomorrow's SportBild is headlining with a story about Marco Reus. According to them everything hints towards a transfer to Bayern München.
I just have a feeling that if reuss and gundogan go this summer (which seems likely) and after loosing Gotze and Lewendowski he might consider his options.
Dortmund have not started the bl great and if two of their best players go he might decide spending his best years as part of a rebuilding project on relatively low wages compared to what the top clubs would offer might not be the ideal situation.
Not to say he will go but perhaps there is more possibility this summer than last
If Dortmund miss out on the CL then they will have an exodus IMO.
I just think their team has been slightly demotivated by the constant loss of great players.
I just think their team has been slightly demotivated by the constant loss of great players.
Tomorrow's SportBild is headlining with a story about Marco Reus. According to them everything hints towards a transfer to Bayern München.
For the sake of the BL I hope not - the league had a real sense of excitement a couple of years ago but now it seems Bayern are keen to mop up any top talent from rivals - Draxler and Mayer also heavily linked with them as well
I'd love to see Reus in the Pl as I think he would thrive - Im not sure he would even get in the Bayern team with Muller, Robben and Ribery there
Even if they don't I expect Reus and Gundogan to leave - which as one has a buy out clause much less than his true market value and one will only have a year left on his contract means they wont get that much money for them and certainly not enough to replace them with players of equal quality
I kinda agree, it would really suck for the league if Reus went to Bayern and I don't want it to happen. But it wouldn't really help the league either if the clubs behind Bayern don't make the step towards keeping their best players soon. The league is developing rapidly, the overall revenue exploded in the past years, the tv deals are getting better and better. We're already the 2nd richest league in the world, ahead of Spain, and we need a 2nd team to establish themselves in the top 10 in Europe soon. In the end, if Dortmund continues to lose their players, it hurts the league. A bit less, if they move abroad than to Bayern, but if Lewandowski went to Real, Dortmund's team would still look exactly as it does now and Bayern would have bought someone else. We constantly bring quality into the team from abroad. We couldn't get Lars Bender, so we went for Martinez. We brought in Benatia, Alonso, Bernat this summer, Thiago last summer.
You just need to look at the Bremen side that played the UEFA Cup final a few years back and had countless brilliant performances in the CL, fought for the league title a few times and won the German cup. They lost Diego to Juventus, Özil to Real, Mertesacker to Arsenal, then Naldo to Wolfsburg. Pizarro was the last one to leave, when he joined Bayern, but he was past his peak and constantly injured. Bremen turned to shit, when they couldn't keep the team together because of a lack of money and the Bundesliga clearly misses an exciting Bremen side. The clubs need to up their game, make more money, do a better job with sponsoring deals. For example, while most top clubs played pre-season friendlies somewhere in the US or in Asia, Dortmund stayed at home. That's just not good enough anymore. They created a brilliant foundation to grow further, they are in a league that despite them losing players to a rival gives them a better chance to grow than any other league in Europe (fair distribution of tv money and no real sugardaddy clubs in the way). They need to take that chance, they can't hope for Bayern collapsing and not fullfiling their potential just so that the league overall is on a lower level again, but looks more exciting on paper. I still believe that they'll do that, but their league form so far this season really is a problem and if they fail to finish top 4 this season, it's a huge huge problem for their further growth. A lack of CL football would hurt them a lot, but they can't blame anyone but themselves if that happens. Gladbach lost their complete core 2 years ago (Reus to Dortmund, Neustädter to Schalke and Dante to Bayern), but look stronger than ever now. Dortmund finishing below them looked as likely two years ago as Bayern finishing below Dortmund does now.
By the way, just because we're rumoured to buy every single German talent in the league, we don't do that, not more than Dortmund does. After all, they managed to get German talents like Reus, Ginter, Gündogan in recent years and clearly still are an incredible attractive club to all the upcoming German talents (and there are more than enough available within the league). Neuer, Götze and Rode (and Starke if you want to count buying Hoffenheim's backup goalkeeper) are the only 3 (4) German players in our first team we bought within the Bundesliga. Yet people constantly claim, we ruin the league by assembling all the German talents.
Yes I imagine if an agent wants a payrise etc they leek a story linking the player to Bayern - it happens with us to an extent in England plus with Real . Barca in Spain so it is probably best to take some of the rumours with a pinch of salt.
Also with all the top germant talent around at the moment plus the ones coming through not at Bayern such as - Leno, Rudiger, Ginther, Mustafi, Durm, Goretzka, Bittencourt, Meyer, Arnold, Volland, Draxler its going to be impossible for Bayern to buy them all even if they wanted to!
I do think any league suffers though when one team is dominant so as you say the league would become a lot stronger with one (or more) genuine challengers
But with the team you have at the moment I believe you would be favourites if you competed in any league - looking forward (from the perspective of a fan of a non competing team
) to see how you go on in the CL this season - especially when your injuries stop and you can start playing properly.No doubt about that. If the gap between us and the rest stays that big for a few more years, the league will suffer. But somehow I doubt that'll happen. Remember when Barca were called the best team ever in 2011 and everyone said they'll be unstoppable for years with their brilliant youth academy and after signing Fabregas and Sanchez? It doesn't always work like that and like Ferguson said, it all works in cycles. Great teams peak for a few years, but at one point, you need to rebuild, so I enjoy the ride at the moment and hope we can keep it up for a few more years, but the past showed that most likely it won't last too long.
By the way, according to German newspaper 'Focus', Hoeneß met with Rummenigge and Beckenbauer during one of his short term releases from jail and asked them if they want to win the title before christmas next season
. Seems like the one who started the 'let's buy from our title rivals' thing when he bought Del'Haye from Gladbach in 1980 is the one who understands when it goes too far and is actually against the Reus - transfer.
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Do they even need him, seriously. Already have a ridiculous amount of talent in that squad. Give him to us.
Reus - RvP/Falcao/Rooney - Januzaj
Di Maria - Blind - Herrera
Di Maria - Blind - Herrera
I guess you could say we don't need him with the forwards we have - but at the price his buy out clause is alleged to be pretty much every club will be interested I think - even if he goes to say Madrid and does not settle or play that many games they would still probably be able to sell him on the next summer at a big proffit
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