i heard as much. Rumours about a signed pre-contract. Makes sense given that Ribery isn't getting younger.
Marco Reus
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I actually like Reus a lot, but I really can't see it working out. He'd basically replace Shaqiri, because none of the other attacking player will leave. It would be a shame if we had to bench so many great attackers all the time or more or less hope for injuries to keep everyone happy. I could see Draxler coming in and accepting a rotation role for a season until Ribery is phased out. Reus really doesn't make any sense at all.
Ribery isn't old enough to be fully replaced by a player who wants to be a regular starter yet and it isn't even clear if Ribery is a starter this season if none of our attacking options is injured.
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Sahin, kagawa?
Everyone who's suggesting Reus would fail because he just works in Dotmund's system doesn't know Reus. Reus - unlike Kagawa, Sahin, Götze, and Lewandowski - was already a star in his pre-Dortmund days when he was still playing for Gladbach. He was voted German player of the year back then and would've most likely been the offensive talisman for Germany at the World Cup had he not got injured right before the tournament. Reus is a world class player and if you watch him on the pitch you'll definitely realize his strengths don't just relate to Dortmund's system. I really like him as a player, it's hard not to! His individual class is incredible, great dribbler, great shot, incredible pace, and good 1 touch link up play as well.
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We don't need Reus unless at least one, preferably two strikers leave.
He's a fantastic player, but will not be as good if he joins a team and is told to just go out there and 'be good like you were at Dortmund'. We need some stability, a proper first XI which is balanced and set in a way of playing where Reus can be Reus and get the best out of him and others.
There are so many top players all over the world right now in various positions that I reckon wouldn't look anywhere near as good if they joined us. Build a frame first and then add the players we need. I think the chances are, if we take that route to recruitment, Reus will not be considered, as good as he is, because I doubt the frame we build will support two wide men.
He's a fantastic player, but will not be as good if he joins a team and is told to just go out there and 'be good like you were at Dortmund'. We need some stability, a proper first XI which is balanced and set in a way of playing where Reus can be Reus and get the best out of him and others.
There are so many top players all over the world right now in various positions that I reckon wouldn't look anywhere near as good if they joined us. Build a frame first and then add the players we need. I think the chances are, if we take that route to recruitment, Reus will not be considered, as good as he is, because I doubt the frame we build will support two wide men.
If he moved here he would play on the left arguably his best position, i want him just as much as any of you but i just dont know if it will happen. Squad rotation wise, we are adding a whole new block of cement on the left. We would go through a season where we would have possibly rooney or rvp not even on the subs. Even less time for januzaj. Never mind the likes of wilson and peireira that will need a call up soon. Anyway. Reus is quality and for 25 million its a no brainer. Just dont assume everything is bloody smooth sailing though.
Its almost like he wasn't already a very good player before he even went to Dotmund
Way to play into @do.ob's hand. He cited two recent successes, you gave him the two "failures" for his 50/50. Maybe if you could name 5 more players leaving Dortmund and turning to shit, your initial argument about Dortmund "ruining" players for other teams or making them seem more than they are would hold some merit.
Neither Sahin or Kagawa were given a fair crack of the whip either in my opinion, that's before you even consider that two players is the most ridiculously low sample size imaginable for making such a point. It's not much different to us not signing Bayern players because 'they all get injured' after Hargreaves, which is a sample size of just one less player, for those who struggle with statistics.
Thank you that was my point. Though even with a 'fair chance' I don't think Sahin would've made it at Madrid. He's a good and very reliable backup for Gündogan (and with the way he's developing we might see him in a more defensive role alongside him) but imo he's too easy to neutralize during build up to be a star DLP in a top club.
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I would love Reus here but he has probably already been promised to Bayern by their feeder club
If Ronaldo is a no go then we should be going all out here
20 scorer in 23 CL games.
He really is special. Shame that he has no WC title to show for it. But still so young. (25 whole season).
He is the better Bale.
Would like to see him pushing Dortmund the next years but should he leave my Bayern must be on him. 25 for him would be 40 million cheap in todays market.
He really is special. Shame that he has no WC title to show for it. But still so young. (25 whole season).
He is the better Bale.
Would like to see him pushing Dortmund the next years but should he leave my Bayern must be on him. 25 for him would be 40 million cheap in todays market.
Nah, don't agree with this statement.
He's no Depay though.
I agree with you on this one, I would take him over Bale too. Far cheaper as well.
I think he's better than Bale too, he has so much more to his game.
Who ever signs this guy for £19million or whatever his buyout clause is priced at, is going to be laughing
, hope its us!
Who ever signs this guy for £19million or whatever his buyout clause is priced at, is going to be laughing
, hope its us!Anything between 25m and 35m, depending on who you believe. Either way, brilliant price for a world class player. Agree with the statement that he's better then Bale as well, I said as much a year ago when Madrid signed Bale and maintained it all year. Bale is great no doubt, but Reus just has more talent.I think he's better than Bale too, he has so much more to his game.
Who ever signs this guy for £19million or whatever his buyout clause is priced at, is going to be laughing
Will be my first signing on FM for sure, as always
Fantastic goal and a nice assist tonight, if Bayern have already tapped him up then that's that, but if not then we surely have to at least try.
I would happily pay Dortmund £5m more to secure Reus.
A front line of Reus Di Maria Falcao and Rooney/Januzaj would be lethal.
A front line of Reus Di Maria Falcao and Rooney/Januzaj would be lethal.
That's not exactly how a release clause works, is it?
Clearly, but if it helped them "persuade" Reus to join us, I think it would be worthwhile.
Better throw money at Reus then, to persuade him to join United. I'm pretty sure that Dortmund prefers for him to go abroad anyway, if he really doesn't want to stay (which seems to be more and more likely in my opinion).
We could perhaps make a slightly higher offer than the buyout-sum to avoid some of the competition who are waiting for the clause to go active. If he's determined to leave Dortmund they'd probably welcome the chance to at least get more money for him.
I was actually surprised that Bayern weren't in for Di Maria as Ribéry has been having injuries and is not getting any younger and when you look at the rest of their team, there isn't much pace in there but what do I know they don't seem to be doing too badly. Still, Reus looks like a perfect fit for them with Robben and Ribéry in their thirties.
-----------Falcao---------
-Reus/Janu-Rooney/Mata-Di Maria/Valencia
------Herrera(Andreas)-Blind/Carrick
Works for me.
And sell their best player in January, when they still fight in the league for a top 4 finish and are still in the CL ? Why would Reus even want to leave in January and join United instead of competing in the CL with Dortmund?
It's probably the same as it was with Götze's clause, same agent after all. It has to be triggered until the end of May and the player will move July 1st when the summer transfer window opens. Then Dortmund knows about him leaving early enough and can look for a replacement before they start their pre-season.
Dortmund won't sell in the winter transfer window and his clause becomes active as soon as the summer window opens.
So, that doesn't make any sense.
Because di Maria was crazy expensive and we kinda expected our midfielders to return after their injuries and not get injured again and again and again.
I don't think di Maria is as good out wide as he is in that hard working, attacking CM role and I'm not sure we really need that type of player, at least not for so much money.
You think it's that much of a forgone conclusion? Gotze is from Bavaria and his family all support Bayern. Reus is a local lad so surely he won't be as keen on joining Bayern. Lots of people seem to assume he will based on the fact that Lewandowski and Gotze did it but this is a different situation. I don't see any chance of him being at Dortmund next season but when he leaves I think it will be abroad (I hope we are at least in for him) and not to Bayern.
That's not what I meant
. I was talking about how the timeline will be, no matter what club buys him. I didn't say he'll definitely join Bayern just because Götze did. I actually believe that he won't go to Bayern and all the foreign clubs have a chance to sign him as long as they can offer him a good chance to win titles.That's not what I meant
My apologies. The way I interpreted what you said I thought you were suggesting he was Bayern bound.
I agree with you about his role. He's had his best season with Madrid as a CM but you could argue that was simply due to maturity than anything else. Anyway, I thought he'd fit at Bayern exactly because of that, he wouldn't have been a pure winger under Pep anyway that's why it seemed to me like a perfect fit. He'd add pace, presses well and versatile which is perfect for a team that suffered so many injuries to midfielders and wide players. But the point about the money certainly makes sense, it was too much money for just another "option" and not a mainstay in the team.
I know Balu believes that Reus has already turned Bayern München down, after Karl-Heinz Rummenigge openly talked about the player's release clause during our trip to the US, but I have the feeling our pursuit is still very much ongoing. There's Rummenigge who doesn't simply reply with a 'no comment' to questions regarding Reus, instead he's talking about 'exploring our options, but it's up to the player to decide'. At the 'Audi Star Talk' Mario Götze is openly flirting with the idea of playing alongside Marco Reus again, but he also emphasizes that the decision is up to Marco Reus. Last weekend Marco Reus seemed annoyed by questions regarding the rumours, but did nothing to shut them down. The day before yesterday, Beckenbauer explained that Bayern München is considering the signature of Marco Reus and that we usually mean business when that happens. Today, Munich based paper 'TZ' published an interview with Robert Lewandowski in which the Pole had this to say about the rumours: 'I better not say what I think, because that would only spark more speculations.'
I didn't really believe in a transfer of Marco Reus either, I'm still not convinced, but at the very least the current situation doesn't look like Reus has rejected us. Quite the opposite actually.
I didn't really believe in a transfer of Marco Reus either, I'm still not convinced, but at the very least the current situation doesn't look like Reus has rejected us. Quite the opposite actually.
They all should just shut up anyway. I hate how the club acts in that regard, it's so unnecessary and embarrassing. We signed Götze without all that drama before.
I don't mind the player's statements, Beckenbauer is and always will be Beckenbauer, but Rummenigge definitely should shut up. He's enjoying this way too much.
The thing for me with Reus is if not Bayern, then who? Madrid will dismantle their team if it meant signing the new shiny toy in the market but I never considered Reus that kind of player. The English teams don't look that attractive now especially compared to Bayern for a German guy. It just looks like the most reasonable outcome to this saga.
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