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Amazingly the only player out of the ones mentioned that we don't have is Reus, which is amazing considering how muppetastic signings they all are and have broken through/have been brought in this year. It's amazing when you come to think of it, players like di Maria, Herrera, Mata and Falcao are all huge signings, and if we get Reus he'll be cheaper than all of them. Still can't believe we have them.

If they click :drool:

Really cant wait for our next game. If falcao and di maria brings their la liga form, we will demolish the league.

Two false 9 is the future. We could take 'the game is won in midfield' to the extreme with that formation.

Thats one way to tempt guardiola to manage us.
 
Yeah, I actually think it might be a recurrence of that same injury.



I didn't realize that, I thought when your ligaments went you couldn't put any weight on your leg at all.
A guy I worked with done his ACL playing 5 a side one night. Crumbled to the ground in agony and was fine 5 minutes later. He knew hed hurt his knee bad and decided to stay off it for a month football wise.

Came back six weeks later for a kick about. Someone passed him the ball and he took a touch and went to turn BOOm back down on the ground in agony. From the ones Ive seen with mate from footie they all struggled once turning etc came into the equation. Everything seemed fine until needing to twist the knee itself and it would just buckle.
 
It's actually possible to be a professional athlete without having an ACL anymore. DeJuan Blair (NBA player) doesn't have an ACL in either knee after a multitude of surgeries in his highschool days, but continues to play and is by now means a crock. As I understand it, the ACLs are mostly there to stabilize your knee and protect it from overextending and too severe rotations that might damage other parts of the knee, especially cartilage which is still much harder, pretty much impossible to repair when really done in than ligaments. So the risk of even more severe injuries is very high when doing sports without an ACL, which is why a lot of teams are reluctant to hire Blair. It is possible, but the risks are enormous.
 
It's actually possible to be a professional athlete without having an ACL anymore. DeJuan Blair (NBA player) doesn't have an ACL in either knee after a multitude of surgeries in his highschool days, but continues to play and is by now means a crock. As I understand it, the ACLs are mostly there to stabilize your knee and protect it from overextending and too severe rotations that might damage other parts of the knee, especially cartilage which is still much harder, pretty much impossible to repair when really done in than ligaments. So the risk of even more severe injuries is very high when doing sports without an ACL, which is why a lot of teams are reluctant to hire Blair. It is possible, but the risks are enormous.
Yeah but its also not fair to compare basketball and football. In basketball, players rarely play the full 12 minutes in a quarter and in Blair's case he plays even less than the average 6-8 minutes since he isn't a starter. I do understand the game takes a lot out of you and it could a miracle that he is actually playing but football in on another level. Players run an average of 8-10 kms a game. And everything is done using their legs. Also in basketball, a player gets constant breaks unlike with football.
 
It's actually possible to be a professional athlete without having an ACL anymore. DeJuan Blair (NBA player) doesn't have an ACL in either knee after a multitude of surgeries in his highschool days, but continues to play and is by now means a crock. As I understand it, the ACLs are mostly there to stabilize your knee and protect it from overextending and too severe rotations that might damage other parts of the knee, especially cartilage which is still much harder, pretty much impossible to repair when really done in than ligaments. So the risk of even more severe injuries is very high when doing sports without an ACL, which is why a lot of teams are reluctant to hire Blair. It is possible, but the risks are enormous.

My brother tore his ACL and plays semi-pro football. He was told he was young enough to get it done and rehab to the level he was before so he did. He's pretty much as he was before.

Had he been older they might have left it but it probably wouldn't finish him. They told him his knee would likely go again if he played football - specifically twisting and turning. If it went again it could dislocate, tear the other ligaments and do all kinds.

Know a few who've had the op and all seem to be ok. Think the problems come later though I.e arthritis due to the trauma.
 
So is damaging ligaments in your ankle as serious as in your knee? I know it won't keep you out for long but is there an increased danger, like the ACL, that it might happen again?
 
So is damaging ligaments in your ankle as serious as in your knee? I know it won't keep you out for long but is there an increased danger, like the ACL, that it might happen again?

Well alot of players come away from hit not the same i.e. Van Nistelrooy, Rooney can back slower and I could probably name a few more.
 
So is damaging ligaments in your ankle as serious as in your knee? I know it won't keep you out for long but is there an increased danger, like the ACL, that it might happen again?

Depends, a torn ankle ligament rarely requires surgery. How ever unless healed properly, you can suffer from inbalance, muscle and ligament weakness, than can cause further complications, prevent full healing or just susceptible to re-injury. I think a most people, when they sprain there ankles, they don't perform RICE properly, stay off it long enough and don't let it heal.... So a lot of people then suffer from chronic ankle problems.


My brother tore his ACL and plays semi-pro football. He was told he was young enough to get it done and rehab to the level he was before so he did. He's pretty much as he was before.

Had he been older they might have left it but it probably wouldn't finish him. They told him his knee would likely go again if he played football - specifically twisting and turning. If it went again it could dislocate, tear the other ligaments and do all kinds.

Know a few who've had the op and all seem to be ok. Think the problems come later though I.e arthritis due to the trauma.

it all depends on the rehab really. My brother played semi-pro, tore his ACL, grew impatient, didn't stick with strengthening the muscle around the knee, probably played again to early, no suffers from chronic knee issues. Another guy i know done his ACL, spent a year in the gym because he even started running, and he's fine now, and says his knee feels even stronger.
 
Well alot of players come away from hit not the same i.e. Van Nistelrooy, Rooney can back slower and I could probably name a few more.
Depends, a torn ankle ligament rarely requires surgery. How ever unless healed properly, you can suffer from inbalance, muscle and ligament weakness, than can cause further complications, prevent full healing or just susceptible to re-injury. I think a most people, when they sprain there ankles, they don't perform RICE properly, stay off it long enough and don't let it heal.... So a lot of people then suffer from chronic ankle problems.

That doesn't sound too promising. It's a bit worrying that he has had a recurrence of the injury again so soon. Hopefully it doesn't become a long term issue.
 
it all depends on the rehab really. My brother played semi-pro, tore his ACL, grew impatient, didn't stick with strengthening the muscle around the knee, probably played again to early, no suffers from chronic knee issues. Another guy i know done his ACL, spent a year in the gym because he even started running, and he's fine now, and says his knee feels even stronger.

That's right - you need to look after your rehab. I've had knee issues and now do a fair bit of crossfit - Olympic lifting and the like and I'm not having any issues.

Too many "ordinary people" - rather than pro-athletes don't look after themselves properly. They don't stretch or think about training properly, or worse, don't look after their diet. Being overweight is the worst cause of knee issues and can make simple things a lot worse.
 
The Express saying he is refusing to enter into contract negotiations.

That's basically been the status quo since at least May 2013. After the defeat to Bayern München in the Uefa Champions League final of Wembley, Dortmund's CEO called an extension of Marco Reus' contract 'our priority and first order of business'. Ever since that time, we've heard countless interviews regarding this matter and BVB's intentions to at least get the release clause out of his current contract are very clear. Yet Marco Reus decided to evade all those attempts and passed on the opportunity to cash in on a substantial raise, arguably to earn even more money once his release clause can be activated.

There are only two options in my mind, either Borussia Dortmund wins a meaningful title this season, makes a deep run into the Uefa Champions League and offers him that immense € 10M contract as SportBild reported or he's going to use that release clause. At least that's what it looks like to me.
 
Yeah but its also not fair to compare basketball and football. In basketball, players rarely play the full 12 minutes in a quarter and in Blair's case he plays even less than the average 6-8 minutes since he isn't a starter. I do understand the game takes a lot out of you and it could a miracle that he is actually playing but football in on another level. Players run an average of 8-10 kms a game. And everything is done using their legs. Also in basketball, a player gets constant breaks unlike with football.

Yeah but there is also an incredible amount of stress associated with the constant sprinting, stopping on a dime and jumping/landing. I played both sports for a number of years and almost all of my injuries (ankle related) came from basketball. I imagine it isn't much different for knee injuries.
 
There are only two options in my mind, either Borussia Dortmund wins a meaningful title this season, makes a deep run into the Uefa Champions League and offers him that immense € 10M contract as SportBild reported or he's going to use that release clause. At least that's what it looks like to me.
Puma needs to give him a better contract as well, a significantly better contract.
 
Reus, Strootman & a world class CB and we'll have a title challenge next season. Mind you we need to get lucky with injuries.
 
Plays in the same position as Ronaldo, Bale and James. If Real are interested it can only mean one thing. RonaldON
 
Plays in the same position as Ronaldo, Bale and James. If Real are interested it can only mean one thing. RonaldON

Or BaleON, he said that he wanted to raise his child in England.
 
Puma needs to give him a better contract as well, a significantly better contract.

Curious. Is there an exit clause on the deal ? Adidas would be all over him I'd imagine and nab one of their bitterest rivals' marquee players.
 
Reus, Strootman & a world class CB and we'll have a title challenge next season. Mind you we need to get lucky with injuries.
Wut lol?

You'd think a team with Strootman, Rues, Di Maria, Mata, Falcao, Rooney and Van Persie along with a world class centre back would win back to back champions league's......... Not "Challenge for the league"
 
He's Ronaldo replacement at Madrid. Ronaldo comes here, Reus to Madrid. Quite confident that'll be what happens. Well struggle again this season and bring in the biggest name possible to appease sponsors and fans.
 
Curious. Is there an exit clause on the deal ? Adidas would be all over him I'd imagine and nab one of their bitterest rivals' marquee players.

Not that I know of. What Balu might suggest here is that Puma should put a lot of afford into making him stay at Dortmund. Puma has tied itself rather heavily to the club with an investment by buying a lot of shares a couple of weeks ago. This was a move similar to what Adidas did with Bayern Munich. It only makes sense that they want to make him the face of their brand, because he is especially internationally the face of Borussia Dortmund (after Klopp of course).

Puma could potentially help with his salary, which would lessen the difference to what he could get at International elite clubs. It would not balance it, though.

If the hard factors (money, prestige of the club and pure chances for titles) will decide Reus´ future, he will leave next summer, most likely to go abroad.

It was clear from the start that the only chance of keeping him for Dortmund would be banking on softer factors. His special status in the team (vice captain, lead player, undisputed set piece taker etc.) and amongst the supporters (local lad, star player), a system he thrives in and a coach who has helped him on his last step towards world class. He could potentially become more than just a top player for us, but rather someone who shaped the era Klopp significantly and be seen as a club legend.

Dortmund has also shown ambitions to grow further by investing on the transfer market and having clear plans to significantly increase the wage bill in the next years. This is of course a clear signal to the star players aswell that the end of the road is supposed to not being reached yet.

If that is not enough, then thats fair aswell. They are bigger clubs where he could play after all. Let´s say he is suppossed to become Ronaldo´s successor, who in turn could return to Manchester. This would be of course an immense opportunity for him, but also some enourmous shoes to fill. To survive in the circus and arena that is Real Madrid he would have to deliver constantly on the highest level. He would not be the home grown player anymore, who turned down financially better offers to return to his home club. This special standing and bonus would be gone. No excuses for struggles with injuries or form. No Klopp anymore to draw the medial fire away from him, which would probably not even be possible given how lunatic the Spanish Press can be. Completely different enviroments. On one side the calm atmosphere and unit focused on the collective, on the other the star ensemble, where one toy can be tossed aside very easily for the next.

I believe that Reus could do it, but he would need to play at his personal top form for that and it has yet to be proven if former Klopp players can do that on club level outside of Dortmund.
 
So it's between us and Real? :(

Liverpool and Arsenal cannot afford it.

Where would Real play him? Unless Ronaldo leaves I don't see him fitting in to their side.

Bale, Isco, Ronaldo, Modric and Rodriguez are more than enough options.
 
Not that I know of. What Balu might suggest here is that Puma should put a lot of afford into making him stay at Dortmund. Puma has tied itself rather heavily to the club with an investment by buying a lot of shares a couple of weeks ago. This was a move similar to what Adidas did with Bayern Munich. It only makes sense that they want to make him the face of their brand, because he is especially internationally the face of Borussia Dortmund (after Klopp of course).

Puma could potentially help with his salary, which would lessen the difference to what he could get at International elite clubs. It would not balance it, though.

If the hard factors (money, prestige of the club and pure chances for titles) will decide Reus´ future, he will leave next summer, most likely to go abroad.

It was clear from the start that the only chance of keeping him for Dortmund would be banking on softer factors. His special status in the team (vice captain, lead player, undisputed set piece taker etc.) and amongst the supporters (local lad, star player), a system he thrives in and a coach who has helped him on his last step towards world class. He could potentially become more than just a top player for us, but rather someone who shaped the era Klopp significantly and be seen as a club legend.

Dortmund has also shown ambitions to grow further by investing on the transfer market and having clear plans to significantly increase the wage bill in the next years. This is of course a clear signal to the star players aswell that the end of the road is supposed to not being reached yet.

If that is not enough, then thats fair aswell. They are bigger clubs where he could play after all. Let´s say he is suppossed to become Ronaldo´s successor, who in turn could return to Manchester. This would be of course an immense opportunity for him, but also some enourmous shoes to fill. To survive in the circus and arena that is Real Madrid he would have to deliver constantly on the highest level. He would not be the home grown player anymore, who turned down financially better offers to return to his home club. This special standing and bonus would be gone. No excuses for struggles with injuries or form. No Klopp anymore to draw the medial fire away from him, which would probably not even be possible given how lunatic the Spanish Press can be. Completely different enviroments. On one side the calm atmosphere and unit focused on the collective, on the other the star ensemble, where one toy can be tossed aside very easily for the next.

I believe that Reus could do it, but he would need to play at his personal top form for that and it has yet to be proven if former Klopp players can do that on club level outside of Dortmund.

Nice post, do you think he can become a goal machine like Ronaldo bagging 50/60 goals a season, or do you think he will become a different type of player?
 
From an age point of view, that may make sense but Ronaldo is one of the greatest players of all time and with him we can win it all again .

That's why I would rather Reus. Ronaldo is an incredible player but Reus, while not at his level, is world class too. I'm not sure how long years Ronaldo has at the top left in him whereas Reus is just coming into his prime so we will be getting longer out of him.
 
Wut lol?

You'd think a team with Strootman, Rues, Di Maria, Mata, Falcao, Rooney and Van Persie along with a world class centre back would win back to back champions league's......... Not "Challenge for the league"

Better teams have failed to win back to back champions leagues.
 
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