Marco Reus

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Nope. People say this about every intelligent winger these days but you'd be wasting one of his biggest assets, his pace. He's already playing his perfect position, for me.

Nope, Reus played as a 10 for Mönchengladbach and was voted Bundesliga player of the year that season. Reus biggest asset is his vision, not his pace. The reason he played on the wings is that it's so hard to find decent wingers these days and that Dortmund had great 10s in the last few years with Kagawa and Götze. If you look at Reus best games, he doesn't really play like a winger either. He roams around alot and tries more to be creative, rather than beating his man and trying to have a good cross. For the last month he played more centrally and he was outstanding. Reus can be a great winger, but as a 10 he can be even better.
 
Nope, Reus played as a 10 for Mönchengladbach and was voted Bundesliga player of the year that season. Reus biggest asset is his vision, not his pace. The reason he played on the wings is that it's so hard to find decent wingers these days and that Dortmund had great 10s in the last few years with Kagawa and Götze. If you look at Reus best games, he doesn't really play like a winger either. He roams around alot and tries more to be creative, rather than beating his man and trying to have a good cross. For the last month he played more centrally and he was outstanding. Reus can be a great winger, but as a 10 he can be even better.

True, he was an excellent #10 at Mönchengladbach, but was he more highly regarded as a player then than now? No, of course not - his move to a wider position has coincided with his development into one of the most dangerous attacking players in the world.

Currently he plays from a wide starting position and is able to use both his creative vision and his pace. It means he receives the ball with a bit more space to work with, and that he rarely has to have his back to goal. This desire to see every creative player move to #10 comes from a misconception that anyone who roams around the pitch or plays creatively isn't a 'real winger'. Bit the only definitional quality of a winger is that their starting position is to one side or the other. Just because he's not Kuba doesn't mean he's not a winger. He's already doing all the things you'd expect of him at #10, but he's also able to really use his pace and his ability to exploit space in a way that he wouldn't in the tighter central area.
 
True, he was an excellent #10 at Mönchengladbach, but was he more highly regarded as a player then than now? No, of course not - his move to a wider position has coincided with his development into one of the most dangerous attacking players in the world.
I agree with you in general and also believe that for most teams, Reus is better used as an inverted winger than as a #10, however I don't think his development as a player has anything to do with him playing out wide now. He was always going to improve individually after his move to Dortmund, didn't matter in what position he was used. Also, despite believing that he's a better player now with more in his locker, I'm not sure if his performances in the league this season were any better than in his last season at Gladbach. He didn't get the recognition outside of Germany back then, but he was the focal point in attack for a team that finished 4th (after finishing 16th the year before) and his productivity (18 goals and 12 assists - he was directly involved in 30 of Gladbach's 49 goals that year) wasn't any different than the 16 goals and 14 assists this season. Of course, the lack of CL/EL games and Löw's stupidity, who started Podolski :( instead of him in most games at the Euro, didn't help to raise his profile, but I said it several times, his last season at Gladbach was every bit as impressive as Bale's last season at Tottenham. He already was one of the most dangerous attacking players in the world, he just didn't get the chance to show it outside of the league.
 
Germany have confirmed that he is out for SIX weeks and will miss the World Cup. Huge blow and terrible news ahead of the take-off to Brazil tonight.

Löw could nominate another player even 24 hours before we play Portugal.
 
Freak accident, damn shame. Hope he recovers well

Shitty list of injuries just ahead of the WC:

Ribery, Suarez, Falcao, Reus, Ox, Thiago, Strootman, Badstuber, Oviedo, Montolivo, Van der Vaart etc.
 
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He obviously doesn't want the piddling World Cup interfering with his preparation of becoming a United player.
 
Real shame, he's one of my favourite non United players.
 
Sucha a shame that he's out, was one of the players I really was looking forward to see.
 
Freak accident, damn shame. Hope he recovers well

Shitty list of injuries just ahead of the WC:

Ribery, Suarez, Falcao, Reus, Ox, Thiago, Strootman, Badstuber, Oviedo, Montolivo, Van der Vaart etc.

That list is laughable when you see Ox among those names. Of course he isn't good enough to lace their boots he also isn't as important to his country as they are.
 
Oxlade is out of the WC?

Huge shame for Reus, you could tell right away it was a bad one. Was looking forward to watching him too.
 
That list is laughable when you see Ox among those names. Of course he isn't good enough to lace their boots he also isn't as important to his country as they are.
Ox is definitely out? And ofc he is important to England. You always need to state the importance of a player in relation to the importance/quality of his teammates. Ox for example wouldn't be missed by Germany as they already have similar and quality players, but England with their average players will miss such a player.

Real shame for Reus, one of the few German players I actually like!
 
I'm gutted. I've been a firm German football follower since about 2008 , have many German friends and was desperate for them to finally go one better under Löw. Real shame this, the lad must be devastated.
 
At least he is young and there will be more world cups for him. I feel bad for Ribery as it might be his last WC, or at least his last where he would be a definite starter.

That list has got a lot of world class players and, potentially, add Ronaldo that and we could be looking at a world cup without a lot of the biggest players.
 
Spanish media must be really bored that they continue cooking the story of a Reus move this summer to Barcelona. :lol:
 
Zorc has ruled out Reus leaving Dortmund this summer.
I know: Watzke, too, and even Marco himself. That's why I find it remarkable that the Spanish media continues inventing these stories though its's crystally clear that it's pure fiction.
 
Barcelona will be banned from transfers next season. They will make a huge push for Reus this summer for sure.
Not likely. They got the ban suspended for this summer due to more information necessary. When the next window comes or next summer, they'll just go to CAS and get it overturned, just like ALL other FIFA verdicts. FIFA cannot uphold the ban - they dont have the integrity nor power.
 
Barcelona will be banned from transfers next season. They will make a huge push for Reus this summer for sure.
Too bad for Barcelona as it doesn't matter at all. This summer, the club is in the driver seat and have already said no. Next summer, Reus is in the driver seat and can chose the club with the best prospects for titles, guaranteed field time - and the highest salary and signing fee. :angel:
 
Recent reports say Barcelona have already agreed personal terms with Reus, they just need to find a price with Dortmund.

Correct me if im wrong, but, isnt it considered breaking contract law talking to players without the clubs permit? We see it so often that clubs announce personal terms with a player before even speaking with the club. I'm pretty sure its through an agent, but that's still kinda the same as talking directly with the player.

On another note, I rly hope he doesnt move to Barcelona. But if they're shipping out Pedro, whose been a wonderful servant and never said anything about being a squadplayer, along with Sanchez, I guess they need replacement. However, I dont see it happening though.
 
one of the 3 would do for me.

Agreed, although I'd take Cesc over the other two if I had to pick one.

Recent reports say Barcelona have already agreed personal terms with Reus, they just need to find a price with Dortmund.

Correct me if im wrong, but, isnt it considered breaking contract law talking to players without the clubs permit? We see it so often that clubs announce personal terms with a player before even speaking with the club. I'm pretty sure its through an agent, but that's still kinda the same as talking directly with the player

I always thought this was tapping up? I thought you had to get permission from the club before being able to speak to the player about a proposed transfer.
 
Recent reports say Barcelona have already agreed personal terms with Reus, they just need to find a price with Dortmund.

Correct me if im wrong, but, isnt it considered breaking contract law talking to players without the clubs permit? We see it so often that clubs announce personal terms with a player before even speaking with the club. I'm pretty sure its through an agent, but that's still kinda the same as talking directly with the player.

On another note, I rly hope he doesnt move to Barcelona. But if they're shipping out Pedro, whose been a wonderful servant and never said anything about being a squadplayer, along with Sanchez, I guess they need replacement. However, I dont see it happening though.

Agreed, although I'd take Cesc over the other two if I had to pick one.



I always thought this was tapping up? I thought you had to get permission from the club before being able to speak to the player about a proposed transfer.

It is tapping up which is why you will rarely see the club confirm it publicly. Agreeing a fee can open the door to gaining permission to talk to a player. The selling club can give the buying club permission to speak with player before a fee is agreed. Agents have changed the game now where it's easier to circumvent this process.
 
Plus in the modern game this is what happens within transfers. At least 90% of the time personal details have been worked out in advance. All you gotta do then is get down to the nitty gritty of agreeing a fee with the club a pushing through a medical.
 
Plus in the modern game this is what happens within transfers. At least 90% of the time personal details have been worked out in advance. All you gotta do then is get down to the nitty gritty of agreeing a fee with the club a pushing through a medical.
indeed. that final 10% can take a long time though
 
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