Marco Reus

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SolidState said:
This is a nothing statement. It's two points and typical to a translated dialect.

1. I am happy at Dortmund
2. I am contracted until 2017

Neither of those suggest it won't happen.
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I suggest for you to give up on this one for this summer at the very least :p

He's up there with my favourite players currently but he's just not leaving this summer, no reason to. First, Dortmund have no reason to accept anything less then a ridiculous bid, like 60-70m, as they have no problems financially. They're a top club, brilliant stadium, great fans, a brilliant manager, and importantly, reus' hometown club.

Also, it's not like he's been there for a long time and needs a change of scenery. He's been there for just 2 seasons and has only gotten better and now has the team built around him pretty much. Them also being in the champions league and challenging for everything next season given that they'll continue to strengthen and no way will have the same injury problems as this year, there's just no reason for him to leave, especially to team in transition. He knows that everyone would be in for him next summer, or he can get a new contract there and leave for more money the next season if he wants to.
 
bosnian_red said:
Different players, reus is probably the player most suited in any style for them. He's just an excellent winger or wide forward, very similar to robben really. He's a very creative player, an excellent goalscorer, very good dribbler, and he's very fast. Every player in the world would struggle playing in the current united team with our style, because of how static it is, but whether it be a counter attacking system or a possession based system I'm confident that reus would be brilliant throughout. He's done it at Dortmund and for the national team, who play completely different styles.
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No doubt that Reus is a great player but the Robben comparison is not fitting at all. Robben is a true winger/wide forward. Great pace, can beat a man, good crossing and his trademark shot of course. Reus is much more of a wide play maker, who is very creative but can struggle against good full backs in a one on one.

I just think that we'd for the Van Gaal system a guy like Sanchez, although inferior in overall ability, could be as valuable as a Reus in Van Gaals system.
 
Reus is a potential match winner. Can you imagine him running onto Matas through balls.
 
Anderson18 said:
No doubt that Reus is a great player but the Robben comparison is not fitting at all. Robben is a true winger/wide forward. Great pace, can beat a man, good crossing and his trademark shot of course. Reus is much more of a wide play maker, who is very creative but can struggle against good full backs in a one on one.

I just think that we'd for the Van Gaal system a guy like Sanchez, although inferior in overall ability, could be as valuable as a Reus in Van Gaals system.
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Obviously here completely different players but reus isn't quite a play maker, he's definitely capable of it but he's a pretty direct player and always looks to go forward. I think he'd be brilliant in a wide forward type role like robben is used, just he'd be different in it, using his excellent movement and pace to get in positions rather then dribbling past loads of players like robben.
 
Hmm yeah if you put it that way...

Next year Reus will be free to leave Dortmund for 35mil and there isn't anything they can do about it.
If a club (please god us) offered them lets say 45/50mil (which for a player like Reus would be great value for money) then would Dortmund really risk losing 10/15mil for one years service? I doubt it. Thats like 200-300k per week salary. Dortmund ain't got that kinda money to spunk away if an offer was on the table. I think the only reason why we wouldn't be able to sign him this summer is if Reus hints he wants to extend with Dortmund.
 
MkPaul said:
Hmm yeah if you put it that way...

Next year Reus will be free to leave Dortmund for 35mil and there isn't anything they can do about it.
If a club (please god us) offered them lets say 45/50mil (which for a player like Reus would be great value for money) then would Dortmund really risk losing 10/15mil for one years service? I doubt it. Thats like 200-300k per week salary. Dortmund ain't got that kinda money to spunk away if an offer was on the table. I think the only reason why we wouldn't be able to sign him this summer is if Reus hints he wants to extend with Dortmund.
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They rejected a 25m bid for lewandowski for a years service so I don't see why not.
 
SolidState said:
This is a nothing statement. It's two points and typical to a translated dialect.

1. I am happy at Dortmund
2. I am contracted until 2017

Neither of those suggest it won't happen.
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All you look like is a person who thinks that, no matter how many times he gets told no by a girl to sleep with him, that he still has a chance. Just give this one up ok? You think it's a done deal but he says he's happy at the club he's been at for a decade
 
Twigg said:
They rejected a 25m bid for lewandowski for a years service so I don't see why not.
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... and Dortmund rejected a €50m bid from Real Madrid for Reus last summer. Reus muppets will have a very disappointing September when they realize he will stay at Dortmund. :angel:
 
The only reason that Dortmund will sell this summer, and I am reaching here, is to prevent him from being able to join Bayern next summer. I'm sure the Bayern hierarchy would already be working to ensure that they tie him up already like they did with Lewandowski and left Dortmund powerless to do anything about it. That's why there's a slight chance that Dortmund might be convinced to sell. I however don't believe that Reus would be willing to join us as there are far too many question marks around us at moment.
 
ManniKaltz said:
... and Dortmund rejected a €50m bid from Real Madrid for Reus last summer. Reus muppets will have a very disappointing September when they realize he will stay at Dortmund. :angel:
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Bollocks.

Why would Madrid make a bid for him, when they wanted Bale all summer.
 
Bestie07 said:
The only reason that Dortmund will sell this summer, and I am reaching here, is to prevent him from being able to join Bayern next summer. I'm sure the Bayern hierarchy would already be working to ensure that they tie him up already like they did with Lewandowski and left Dortmund powerless to do anything about it. That's why there's a slight chance that Dortmund might be convinced to sell. I however don't believe that Reus would be willing to join us as there are far too many question marks around us at moment.
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I like this theory!
 
Bojan11 said:
Bollocks.

Why would Madrid make a bid for him, when they wanted Bale all summer.
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Reus is a better player, but that's besides the point. I also remember reading reports that they tried to go for him but Dortmund basically told them to do one. Not sure if they were true mind you but it wouldn't surprise me.
Dortmund would reject anything less then £60m for him easily. Over that and I think they'd consider it, but in doubt reus would want to leave regardless so he'd just say no.
 
Real tried to sign Neymar as well. It was never 'Bale or no one'. They tried to sign a great attacking player and made offers for a few different players.
 
If Madrid get Reus AND Suarez next summer, might as well hand them every trophy that they're interested in. It will save everyone's time.
 
Suarez
Bale - Reus - Ronaldo

With Di Maria, Isco and Benzema.... That's cheating.
 
bosnian_red said:
Reus is a better player, but that's besides the point. I also remember reading reports that they tried to go for him but Dortmund basically told them to do one. Not sure if they were true mind you but it wouldn't surprise me.
Dortmund would reject anything less then £60m for him easily. Over that and I think they'd consider it, but in doubt reus would want to leave regardless so he'd just say no.
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Like Spurs told them to do one? Basically it probably came down to who do you want to persue and Bale rightfully one p.s. Reus isn't the better player.
 
Bojan11 said:
Bollocks.

Why would Madrid make a bid for him, when they wanted Bale all summer.
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So basically, you're suggesting that our CEO Watzke is a liar? Interesting.

Besides: Since when has Pérez been buying based on necessity?!?!? Must have missed it. :lol:
 
Bestie07 said:
The only reason that Dortmund will sell this summer, and I am reaching here, is to prevent him from being able to join Bayern next summer. I'm sure the Bayern hierarchy would already be working to ensure that they tie him up already like they did with Lewandowski and left Dortmund powerless to do anything about it. That's why there's a slight chance that Dortmund might be convinced to sell. I however don't believe that Reus would be willing to join us as there are far too many question marks around us at moment.
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First of all: If a player wants to join Bayern, there's nothing Dortmund can do about it anyway – I had thought that Lewandowski's case proved that.

Secondly and more importantly, club execs are (luckily) no fans. Neither Watzke, Zorc nor Klopp sacrifice their long-term goals for short-sighted pride or emotions, and one additional year of Reus is as important for BVB's long-term success as one additional year of Lewandowski in black'n yellow has been.

The difference: Lewa leaves as a free agent, Reus– though being a bargain – will bring us €35m.
 
Quote from Marco's Kicker interview:

Verbatim in German:
Kicker: Spielen Sie auch in der nächsten Saison in Dortmund?

Reus: Ich kann mit Sicherheit sagen, dass ich auch 2014/2015 beim BVB spielen werde. Ich muss eigentlich nicht immer betonen, wie wohl ich mich hier in Dortmund fühle.
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English translation:
Kicker: Do you play next season for Dortmund?

Reus: I can assure you* that in 2014/2015, I'll play for BVB. Actually, I don't have to stress all the time how comfortable I feel here in Dortmund.
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* literally: "say with certainty"
 
ManniKaltz said:
First of all: If a player wants to join Bayern, there's nothing Dortmund can do about it anyway – I had thought that Lewandowski's case proved that.

Secondly and more importantly, club execs are (luckily) no fans. Neither Watzke, Zorc nor Klopp sacrifice their long-term goals for short-sighted pride or emotions, and one additional year of Reus is as important for BVB's long-term success as one additional year of Lewandowski in black'n yellow has been.

The difference: Lewa leaves as a free agent, Reus– though being a bargain – will bring us €35m.
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Didn't Dortmund try to offload Lewandowski to some other European team last season? I heard plenty of reports saying this but Lewandowski had agreed to join Bayern so they couldn't. Surely that contradicts your second point?

By the way, I don't think Reus will leave but was just thinking out loud what might be in it for Dortmund to sell him this summer.
 
Some people are suggesting those quotes are fake. Obviously it's just speculation but weird if they were isn't kicker reliable.
 
Bestie07 said:
Didn't Dortmund try to offload Lewandowski to some other European team last season? I heard plenty of reports saying this but Lewandowski had agreed to join Bayern so they couldn't. Surely that contradicts your second point?
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Not really.

Dortmund had three criteria for a Lewandowski sale, and these three criteria were applicable to all clubs, including Bayern:
  • criteria 1 + 2: Offer in writing before a certain due date (some time in early June, IIRC).
  • criteria 3: A replacement for Lewandowski to be available before the 2nd training camp (the most important one, i.e. for newcomers who need much more time to adapt to Klopp's idea of football)
Consequently, Dortmund would have listened to other offers, but you can't offlaod somebody who has a pre-contract with one club and determined to fulfill it.

Bestie07 said:
By the way, I don't think Reus will leave but was just thinking out loud what might be in it for Dortmund to sell him this summer.
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Understood. :cool: The challenge for non-Dortmund followers, especially if you don't read or understand German, is that you miss the abundance of interviews across many different newspapers, magazines, and TV channels by our very chatty CEO Watzke. In those he outlined the club's long-term plans, and over time you get a pretty good idea what makes him tick.
 
SolidState said:
Some people are suggesting those quotes are fake. Obviously it's just speculation but weird if they were isn't kicker reliable.
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Kicker has gone downhill a bit and you have to carefully check who's writing or reporting - but Thomas Hennecke who's covering Dortmund is one of the reliable sources. To suggest that he'd fake Reus quotes make my day! :lol::lol::lol:
 
The Reus to Bayern ship has sailed, we were in for him and he chose Dortmund ahead of us. He made it very clear back then and I doubt we would try to bring him in again.

The quotes are also not fake, it was an interview that Thomas Hennecke had with him. But I'm sure that even though he made it abundantly clear he is not leaving, the media will try to spin it somehow and still link him with other clubs. There is no way around it.
 
Quotes aren't fake. We're gonna sign him anyway.
 
He'll most likely go to Bayern for peanuts if BVB don't sell him now. Why not sell him now, get more money and not risk losing him to your biggest domestic rivals, who have already poached two of your biggest talents in the last two seasons? Why Dortmund? Why?
 
Shinjisan said:
He'll most likely go to Bayern for peanuts if BVB don't sell him now. Why not sell him now, get more money and not risk losing him to your biggest domestic rivals, who have already poached two of your biggest talents in the last two seasons? Why Dortmund? Why?
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Because luckily, our execs are no fans but think about what's necessary for long-term success over - sorry! - questionable short-sighted emotions like "pride".

In addition, the club does not need money. Therefore, there's zero argument for selling Reus this summer. :angel:
 
ManniKaltz said:
Because luckily, our execs are no fans but think about what's necessary for long-term success over - sorry! - questionable short-sighted emotions like "pride".

In addition, the club does not need money. Therefore, there's zero argument for selling Reus this summer. :angel:
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Well, I don't buy the money argument. Though I would buy the argument that your club will lose a lot of goals and assists with the departure of both Lewandoski and Reus. Out of 80 goals and 52 assists (as per whoscored) in the Bundesliga and CL this season the two contributed 36 goals and 19 assists. That's 45% of goals and 36.5% of the assists. Reus alone contributed in 20% of the goals and 25% of the assists. This is without counting the overall impact on the way BVB plays. So, yes, I would agree that it is highly unlikely.

I was being farcical with my earlier comment. Plus, I like mentioning the swap with Kagawa as it give some experts on here a headache. ;)
 
Shinjisan said:
Well, I don't buy the money argument. Though I would buy the argument that your club will lose a lot of goals and assists with the departure of both Lewandoski and Reus. Out of 80 goals and 52 assists (as per whoscored) in the Bundesliga and CL this season the two contributed 36 goals and 19 assists. That's 45% of goals and 36.5% of the assists. Reus alone contributed in 20% of the goals and 25% of the assists. This is without counting the overall impact on the way BVB plays. So, yes, I would agree that it is highly unlikely.

I was being farcical with my earlier comment. Plus, I like mentioning the swap with Kagawa as it give some experts on here a headache. ;)
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Well, you don't have to buy the money aspect but it doesn't change the facts. :angel:
 
They won't sell him this summer unless we are willing to pay Bale level money for him which of course we aren't. Next summer is a different story though when he will be available for 35M € which I think is a good price for him.
 
I didn't expect this one to materialise this summer so at least with this statement Reus won't be the ITK's favourite rumour for the next 4 months.
 
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