Marco Reus

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He turned down Bayern in a time when he could have been a one-year-wonder. He went from a system that matches to him to a system that matches to him. Risk free. There is a lot that started similar and never made it at Bayern. Bayern's offense already was packed then. It was not clear if he could make it at Bayern. He choose the save way - and went back to his home club.

The system at Bayern would not be good for his play...

Why would Bayern not be good for him?
 
He turned down Bayern in a time when he could have been a one-year-wonder. He went from a system that matches to him to a system that matches to him. Risk free. There is a lot that started similar and never made it at Bayern. Bayern's offense already was packed then. It was not clear if he could make it at Bayern. He choose the save way - and went back to his home club.

The system at Bayern would not be good for his play...

But that's just what I mean: he's not chasing the highest wages , he decided based on what's best for him as a player.

Why would Bayern not be good for him?
Fist of all he was talking about the past, secondly Reus is a very direct player which probably does not suit Pep's style.
 
Ah thanks. Hadn't even realised he was born in Dortmund and joined their youth set up. Fair play to him then. I'm liking him more by the minute

They send him away with 15 because of his stature.

But it probably was not the boyhood club thing. At Bayern there was already Robben, Ribery, Müller and Kroos for 3 positions. And Dortmund played the better system for him.
 
And now explain me why he would move now instead of next year. Money can´t be the reason, because the differences in wages for one year would be easily compensated by a way higher signing fee next year.

And nothing left to archive? Next weekend is a shot at his first major trophy in his career. He was not part of the title winning squads 2010/2011 and 2011/2012.

The opportunity might not be there for him next season, everyone knows we will be strengthening significantly so us or other clubs might go another way by next summer, going after other players. Dortmund aren't going to be in another CL final anytime soon, nor will they be challenging for the league seeing as all their best players in recent years have gone or are going. Their zenith appears to have been reached. They might win the Cup next week though which would be a nice leaving present for him...
 
And now explain me why he would move now instead of next year. Money can´t be the reason, because the differences in wages for one year would be easily compensated by a way higher signing fee next year.

And nothing left to archive? Next weekend is a shot at his first major trophy in his career. He was not part of the title winning squads 2010/2011 and 2011/2012.

To be honest, unless you are his agent or his mother, none of us and you know what kinds of options he will be looking at in the near future. He may just decide to request to leave Dortmund next week for all we know, or of course he may declare his intetion to stay on for another year. It's all speculation in the media, and we are all speculating
 
Why would Bayern not be good for him?

Have you ever seen how Bayern plays and how Dortmund does? Marco Reus is for sure no Tiki-Taka-player. He is somebody with speed - not the most technical player. Set-Pieces you probably could forget with Bayern, too. Reus excels in a more counter attacking team and in this situations. He often has really bad matches when they play against parked busses - then he only has his set-pieces. He is even less equipped for that situations like Robben or Müller are - Robben is better technically and Müller still has his headers, his crosses or his Müllerinstinct.

He would excel in the EPL, be great at a team like Real or a team with similar tactics. But there is teams in which he might be a good but not a great player. Barca and Bayern, maybe even City, would be less great for him.
 
You wouldn't need 60m+ to get him from Dortmund that number's madness. He's available for 35m euro next summer and there's also a possibility of him joining Bayern if the choose to meet his clause which I'm sure Dortmund try to prevent. Offer them £40m now which is 13m euro more than his buyout clause and they net a very handsome 48m and avoid selling him to their biggest rivals. I know it's been mentioned that he had the chance to join Bayern and went to Dortmund but would you join Bayern when they have Ribery/Robben?

I don't agree that Dortmund can't afford to lose him either, they aren't winning the league vs this Bayern next season and the depth they have nor will they win the champions league after losing Lewandowski/Gotze and with a crocked Gundogan. Losing him won't cost them a place in the CL either.
 
I don't know, but are Dortmund strapped for cash? They are letting Lewendowski off on a free and i presume they will probably need further funds to buy 2 forwards to compensate for his goals
 
I don't think Dortmund will be allowing Reus to go to Bayern, not another player again in the next ten years perhaps. Unless Reus himself throws a strop about it
 
Why would Bayern want him with Ribery and Robben on both wings? They're still around their peaks

Exactly that is why he did not go there. Robben and Ribery on the wings - Kroos and Müller on the 10 or hanging striker or Müller on left or right. He came from a smaller team where he has been the center of attention. That was two years ago - as the transfer was already told in January even more. He did not have any international experience then. It was just a different situation.
 
I don't know, but are Dortmund strapped for cash? They are letting Lewendowski off on a free and i presume they will probably need further funds to buy 2 forwards to compensate for his goals

No, the club is highly profitable. By the looks of it, they will infact invest into the squad around 45 Mil. € not only to replace Lewandowski with two striker but also to further strengthen the squad in general.
 
Exactly that is why he did not go there. Robben and Ribery on the wings - Kroos and Müller on the 10 or hanging striker or Müller on left or right. He came from a smaller team where he has been the center of attention. That was two years ago - as the transfer was already told in January even more. He did not have any international experience then. It was just a different situation.

You forget Gotze and Lewandowski going there means they will have less need to play with a false 9, if Guardiola wanted to do that.

They really don't need Reus but then again I don't see him leaving Dortmund this summer.
 
You forget Gotze and Lewandowski going there means they will have less need to play with a false 9, if Guardiola wanted to do that.

They really don't need Reus but then again I don't see him leaving Dortmund this summer.

It was about a transfer 2 years ago when Reus went to Dortmund and not to Bayern. I just tried to explain why he did. But I do not think he will ever go to Bayern - there is clubs that better match to his style. I do not see Mario Götze ending his career in Munich either.
 
I don't see Reus moving this summer at all.Dortmund rejected £25M for Lewandowski just to keep him one more season, Surely Reus is worth as much to them.It would need 60M at the very least and even then Dortmund are in a healthy financial position and don't need to sell.I don't see Bayern,Real, Barcelona paying that when they could get him for half that next season.We might be the only ones after him this season but why would he want a move to us with no CL and so much uncertainty.
 
I don't see Reus moving this summer at all.Dortmund rejected £25M for Lewandowski just to keep him one more season, Surely Reus is worth as much to them.It would need 60M at the very least and even then Dortmund are in a healthy financial position and don't need to sell.I don't see Bayern,Real, Barcelona paying that when they could get him for half that next season.We might be the only ones after him this season but why would he want a move to us with no CL and so much uncertainty.

That. And he does not have any trophies until now as Dortmund did not win anything since he is there. So he will want to. And he somehow is still on the beginning of his international career as until 2 years ago he did not have any international experience.

Reus is just muppetry. For him it is financially best to wait a year - and Dortmund will not let him go. Like Mario Götze (same agency) he probably will even participate at a transfer next year with the clause. And because of a limited transfer sum he will cash from the new club, too. He just does not have a reason to go.
 
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Have you ever seen how Bayern plays and how Dortmund does? Marco Reus is for sure no Tiki-Taka-player. He is somebody with speed - not the most technical player. Set-Pieces you probably could forget with Bayern, too. Reus excels in a more counter attacking team and in this situations. He often has really bad matches when they play against parked busses - then he only has his set-pieces. He is even less equipped for that situations like Robben or Müller are - Robben is better technically and Müller still has his headers, his crosses or his Müllerinstinct.

He would excel in the EPL, be great at a team like Real or a team with similar tactics. But there is teams in which he might be a good but not a great player. Barca and Bayern, maybe even City, would be less great for him.
Lol Bayern only play tika taka this season, Guardiola will have to adapt his team to incorporate more of the old Bayern style Reus would suit it perfectly.

Not to worry though I'm convinced he'd coming to United.
 
Why would Bayern want him with Ribery and Robben on both wings? They're still around their peaks

It was posted earlier when someone mentioned us being able to offer more money than Dortmund that he turned down Bayern to go there and I'm pointing out that it made sense from a sporting point of view for him to go to Dortmund rather than Bayern since they already have Ribery/Robben.

I don't think Dortmund will be allowing Reus to go to Bayern, not another player again in the next ten years perhaps. Unless Reus himself throws a strop about it

When his transfer clause is active next summer Dortmund have no control on who he joins even if it's Bayern, that's how they got Gotze.
 
Reus' case is very simple:

This summer, the club is in the driver seat. Reus could push as much for a move as he wants: Dortmund decides whether or not he plays for BVB. And the club has already made it perfectly clear that Reus will not be allowed to move.

Nothing our club excecs have been saying or doing suggests that they don't walk the talk. Those who believe the club needs the extra fee this summer or would not consider it of utmost importance to have Reus for another season obviously don't follow the club closely or ignore reality.

In summer 2015, however, when the release clause can be activated, the situation is entirely different, and the power will be all with Reus.

Nothing he's said or done during his career suggests that he's primarily driven by money, fame, or emotions. He thrives for titles, and his hunger for silverware can't be compensated by any package in this universe: Without realistic chances for national titles and and the CL for season 2015/2016, he wouldn't even take a club into consideration.
 
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Marco Reus in Kicker: I can definitely say that i will play for Dortmund next season. I don't have to keep stressing how well I feel here.

Marco Reus: After playing 10 years in the youth here I had to go a step back via Ahlen and Mönchengladbach to make two steps forward. #BVB

Marco Reus: Now I am back in Dortmund and - again - I feel totally well here and have a contract until 2017. #BVB
 
This is a nothing statement. It's two points and typical to a translated dialect.

1. I am happy at Dortmund
2. I am contracted until 2017

Neither of those suggest it won't happen.
 
How much more clear can one get than 'I will play for Dortmund next season'?
 
Seems like this summer could be a year too soon for some of our targets :(
 
He probably won't leave.We should still test Dortmund's resolve with a 45M and Kagawa bid.Offer him 200k too.
 
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Also I don't know how good Reus would be as a winger in Van Gaals system. Dortmund play a very direct, fast, counter football and Van Gaal is more of a possesion football manager. Look at Kagawa for example. He is brilliant, when you play fast and he has the space to pick you apart. In our system he isn't nearly as effective so far.

Great player and I'd love him here, but don't know if he'd be that great for us.
 
Offer them Hernandez and Kagawa, that'd tempt them.
:lol: Oh we do love a good swap deal on here don't we! Of course they are so common these days... :smirk:
 
Also I don't know how good Reus would be as a winger in Van Gaals system. Dortmund play a very direct, fast, counter football and Van Gaal is more of a possesion football manager. Look at Kagawa for example. He is brilliant, when you play fast and he has the space to pick you apart. In our system he isn't nearly as effective so far.

Great player and I'd love him here, but don't know if he'd be that great for us.
Different players, reus is probably the player most suited in any style for them. He's just an excellent winger or wide forward, very similar to robben really. He's a very creative player, an excellent goalscorer, very good dribbler, and he's very fast. Every player in the world would struggle playing in the current united team with our style, because of how static it is, but whether it be a counter attacking system or a possession based system I'm confident that reus would be brilliant throughout. He's done it at Dortmund and for the national team, who play completely different styles.
 
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