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Sphaero said:
He won´t.

I think the position that is often neglected in this debate is the one of the player itself. Let´s assume, that Dortmund would be willing in letting him go for 60+ Mil. €, why would Reus join United this Summer?

Your club will undergo a pretty big rebuilding phase this Summer under a new manager, which results in a considerable uncertainty that United will offer him more title chances than Dortmund (which seems to be his main focus in choosing a club). You won´t play CL next season.

Reus´ best choice of action would be staying at Dortmund as the undisputed star player (especially in the eye of the international audience) for another year and then transfer for a bargain (in relation to his standing) in 2015. If Reus at least keeps his performance level then nearly every European elite club will line up for him. Clubs who will be willing to spend more than 35 Mil. € for him. Everything on top of that figure will go directly into his own pockets and the ones of his agents.
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Naturally, I just think of the reasons why your club won't let him go first and foremost because that's probably the biggest obstacle to overcome. You simply can't 'afford' to lose him now.

mufcwarm92 said:
You're right in that he's been their best player this season, has become frighteningly productive and selling him would seem a bit mental with their main striker leaving too.

It's a tough one to judge though. I suppose the situation is very different when there's a release clause at the end rather than a Bosman. But a few years down the line they'd probably regret not cashing in on an extra wedge from Reus on top of a big fee they wavered for Lewandowski.

The fact he worked a release clause into the deal and the club were willing does suggest that he's given a potential move a lot of thought.
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I think that they'll try to force him this year to sign a new contract where there will be no release clause ( he's the last player in their squad with such clause iirc, maybe @Sphaero can confirm ) and if he'll be stubborn enough not to sign it, then it will be release clause / bidding war next summer I guess.
 
Does Marco Reus have the greatest hair in football? No matter what he does on the pitch it stays perfect! It's almost magical.. for that lone we must get him.
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Bob Cass says in his latest piece:
Negotiations for the likes of Toni Kroos, Luke Shaw and Marco Reus have gone well beyond the `I quite fancy them stage’.
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It was only a couple of years ago that the Arsenal dressing room was taking the piss out of Carl Jenkinson for having that haircut.
 
Haha people's reactions in here are funny. I can't wait to see what inevitably happens.
 
Sixpence said:
Bob Cass says in his latest piece:
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So how trustworthy is Cass then, because he's said a few things about us being a little way down the line with Kroos, Shaw & Reus?

In the same blog of his that you quoted from he goes on to say:
The major bonus, established in sounding out the availability of any of the so-called big hitters, is not one of them have been influenced by United’s non-participation in the Champions League next season.

A source close to Old Trafford confided: `They are still attracted by wearing the red shirt of what is probably the best known football club in the world.’
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Would be mouth watering if remotely close to the truth.
 
Sied said:
So how trustworthy is Cass then, because he's said a few things about us being a little way down the line with Kroos, Shaw & Reus?

In the same blog of his that you quoted from he goes on to say:


Would be mouth watering if remotely close to the truth.
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Reus never striked me as a player who focuses much on being well known (he is actually a rather shy fellow) or prestige. The most important aspect for him was always success on the pitch.

I also really love, how there are supposed negotations according to English pundits, yet there is nothing, literally nothing coming from the German media (in difference to for example the casa Kroos), which hints towards a departure of him this Summer. The biggest stories are about next season being Reus´ last year at Dortmund. Nothing more.

So unless, these negotations are so well hidden, that no one from the German media gets wind of it or this is simply name dropping by the British media.

I know, what is more likely.
 
Imagine Reus and Adnan flanking Mata :drool:

Make it happen Woody, make it happen.
 
Sixpence said:
Bob Cass says in his latest piece:
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I don't understand why these people put their names under what is most likely simply a blatant lie. As already been mentioned there is no indication of that in the German media at all and Dortmund don't really need the money.
Why would Reus even want to join United this summer? The club hasn't officially announced its manager yet and even if it is going to be van Gaal there will be huge changes in the summer and no one knows how that will turn out. Why would he leave Dortmund (and CL football) for that much uncertainty, when he can simply stay for another season and watch in what direction United/Dortmund are heading and see if maybe Real/Barca/Bayern show interest?
 
"@JanAageFjortoft: “@BL_Live_EN @bvb coach Jürgen Klopp:"Next season it's Marco Reus' turn to finish as Bundesliga top scorer."

He did not actually say he will certainly stay.
 


Even if we go all out (60m, 200k wages, etc.), it looks like Klopp and the club are desperate for him to stay.
 
gooDevil said:
Money.
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Even if it comes down to money for him, surely he'll get more over the course of his contract if he stays at Dortmund for another season. That way he leaves on a free and the club he goes to will obviously be more inclined to give him silly high wages if they haven't had to pay a transfer fee.
 
That's an interesting call to arms after Reus's comments about the uncertainty over his future at the awards ceremony. Definitely one to watch this summer.
 
gooDevil said:
Money.
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Next summer there will probably be a bidding war and teams might be willing to give more money to the player since they save a lot of it with the release clause. I think these clauses also pay a percentage of the fee to the player. So all things considered moving this summer might not be that beneficial for his finances.

mufcwarm92 said:
That's an interesting call to arms after Reus's comments about the uncertainty over his future at the awards ceremony. Definitely one to watch this summer.
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He basically said no comment (just phrased it more nicely) to the question about his future beyond next season. Nothing indicated that he would push for a move this summer.
 
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Sied said:
Even if it comes down to money for him, surely he'll get more over the course of his contract if he stays at Dortmund for another season. That way he leaves on a free and the club he goes to will obviously be more inclined to give him silly high wages if they haven't had to pay a transfer fee.
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The club has to pay a transfer fee - but it is fixed and lower than that what he would go for. Leaves him a lot to bargain for...
 
Blackwidow said:
The club has to pay a transfer fee - but it is fixed and lower than that what he would go for. Leaves him a lot to bargain for...
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Oops my bad. Typed free without thinking. 35m/free who's counting anyway
 
do.ob said:
I don't understand why these people put their names under what is most likely simply a blatant lie. As already been mentioned there is no indication of that in the German media at all and Dortmund don't really need the money.
Why would Reus even want to join United this summer? The club hasn't officially announced its manager yet and even if it is going to be van Gaal there will be huge changes in the summer and no one knows how that will turn out. Why would he leave Dortmund (and CL football) for that much uncertainty, when he can simply stay for another season and watch in what direction United/Dortmund are heading and see if maybe Real/Barca/Bayern show interest?
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He'd be on a shit load more here than he is or ever will be at Dortmund, that's reason no.1. Also his profile in the world game would sky rocket if he joined us, CL or no CL. He's already world class but he could become a superstar globally if he joined us. He may also feel he has nothing left to achieve at Dortmund.
 
HabeasC said:


Even if we go all out (60m, 200k wages, etc.), it looks like Klopp and the club are desperate for him to stay.
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They could do nothing if we offered £60m or anywhere close to that. There's no way they'd turn it down.
 
Joining Real or Barca (the former supposedly have shown interest in him in the past) will probably be even better for his marketing potential. I also didn't get the impression that he is that greedy (after all he turned Bayern down when he joined Dortmund). As I've already said when he moves next season the offers will probably be just as good if not better, because more clubs will be willing to pay the fee.

Sixpence said:
They could do nothing if we offered £60m or anywhere close to that. There's no way they'd turn it down.
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Why? They turned down €25m for Lewandowski just last summer. And if you consider taxes and the fact that such a big fee is going to force them to overpay heavily on any possible replacement they might want to sign (not to mention that they wont be able to find a 1 for 1 replacement) makes that number look a lot worse for Dortmund.
 
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Sixpence said:
They could do nothing if we offered £60m or anywhere close to that. There's no way they'd turn it down.
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Yeah but then we'd still have to agree a deal with him and I doubt he'd want to go until next season at the very least. A key part a lot of people are forgetting. And it would be 60m at the very least, close to that wouldn't work IMO. Dortmund have no problems at all financially.
 
do.ob said:
Joining Real or Barca (the former supposedly have shown interest in him in the past) will probably be even better for his marketing potential. I also didn't get the impression that he is that greedy (after all he turned Bayern down when he joined Dortmund). As I've already said when he moves next season the offers will probably be just as good if not better, because more clubs will be willing to pay the fee.
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He turned down Bayern in a time when he could have been a one-year-wonder. He went from a system that matches to him to a system that matches to him. Risk free. There is a lot that started similar and never made it at Bayern. Bayern's offense already was packed then. It was not clear if he could make it at Bayern. He choose the save way - and went back to his home club.

The system at Bayern would not be good for his play...
 
do.ob said:
Joining Real or Barca (the former supposedly have shown interest in him in the past) will probably be even better for his marketing potential. I also didn't get the impression that he is that greedy (after all he turned Bayern down when he joined Dortmund). As I've already said when he moves next season the offers will probably be just as good if not better, because more clubs will be willing to pay the fee.
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Not heard this before. Why did he choose Dortmund over Bayern then?
 
Bader said:
Boyhood club?
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Ah thanks. Hadn't even realised he was born in Dortmund and joined their youth set up. Fair play to him then. I'm liking him more by the minute
 
Sixpence said:
He'd be on a shit load more here than he is or ever will be at Dortmund, that's reason no.1. Also his profile in the world game would sky rocket if he joined us, CL or no CL. He's already world class but he could become a superstar globally if he joined us. He may also feel he has nothing left to achieve at Dortmund.
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And now explain me why he would move now instead of next year. Money can´t be the reason, because the differences in wages for one year would be easily compensated by a way higher signing fee next year.

And nothing left to archive? Next weekend is a shot at his first major trophy in his career. He was not part of the title winning squads 2010/2011 and 2011/2012.
 
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